BMW 323is vs 2000 Honda Civic Si

Originally posted by hondaman-iac


oww *** not again. People should understand once and for all that honda's are not torqueless. They have enough torque compared to the engines of the same displacement, they just have more horsepower, and it is a shame to comapre a honda with a car that has twice the displacement, and twice the number of pistons. Usually honda's will make their power at higher rpm's, and by the time they start making the real power, the other cars are at their maximum rpms (any higher and the engine will blow into pieces).

Dude, I understand what you're saying. But do you know what it means when it's time to race? Absolutely nothing.

"...but you've got 2x the number cylinders I do!"
"...but your peak power is at a lower RPM!"
"...but you have 2x the displacement!"

All that is meaningless. I hope the guy in the Camaro (Z28 or SS) can hear you over the roar of his exhaust from 5 carlengths ahead.
The ~$40,000 S2000 has less torque than either of my cars did when they were stock.