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IALuder · 02-06-2005, 07:08 AM

Alright... how do you defeat understeer, especially with a 4th gen lude? Wider tires, better tires, better suspension?

Also, I have 15"rims with Dunlop SP5000 tires for winter. In the Summer, I have 18"rims with Pirelli PZero Nero m+s tires.

8teenz are just too big. Excellent control though!!! I like the 15" rims, but they don't offer enough control. I would like to keep a smaller diameter, as to improve acceleration.

Hence my question... If I go with 16"rims, will I have a decent amount of control? For the rubber, I will probably go 225 or 215 40 16 to keep the diameter smaller.

Racing Rice · 02-06-2005, 09:01 AM

The best way to beat understeer will be a fatter rear swaybar, and skinnier/no front sway bars. A lot of autocrossers will run with no front swaybar at all.

ebpda9 · 02-06-2005, 09:48 AM

i used to have a rear sway bar on the accord with the konis on the hardest setting in the rear and halfway in the front. talk about throwing out the front

IALuder · 02-06-2005, 08:54 PM

ill actually be using toyo T1Ss'.

i might try stefans idea. im if itll help beat it. it might screw up my corning all together being that im heavy in the front.

Racing Rice · 02-07-2005, 07:45 AM

lol! I messed up my reply.. I meant to say you should run a smaller or no FRONT sway bar and a thick rear sway bar.

I accidently said no/smaller rear swaybar and a thicker rear swaybar.. I must have been half asleep when I replied the first time.

IALuder · 02-10-2005, 09:20 PM

lol. ill get a bigger sway bar. i dont know which bar to get. the stock bar is huge. no one ever replied to my thread in prelude forum about sway bars.

ebpda9 · 02-10-2005, 09:36 PM

if you have adjustable springs might wanna lower the rear a little more than the front. that will help in better weight distribution. that's what i hate about most springs. they are usually lower by about.25" in the front biasing the weight even more towards the front.

Racing Rice · 02-11-2005, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by IALuder
lol. ill get a bigger sway bar. i dont know which bar to get. the stock bar is huge. no one ever replied to my thread in prelude forum about sway bars.

There is a guy that lives around here that has a Prelude that he races, I can't remember what bars he runs on his.. Neuspeed are always a decent choice. He maybe running Eibach..

ShEaNy · 02-11-2005, 11:10 AM

Anyone know a good rear sway bar for my car..i can never find one...

IALuder · 02-11-2005, 11:32 AM

do they make them for your car. if so check neuspeed.

ebpda9 · 02-11-2005, 12:14 PM

suspension techniques makes one. i really like them

ShEaNy · 02-14-2005, 11:32 AM

any websites i can find one on? how much they running?

Racing Rice · 02-15-2005, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ShEaNy
any websites i can find one on? how much they running?

Just about everyone sells ST swaybars, just do a search on google.

ShEaNy · 02-17-2005, 10:51 AM

aight thanks...ill look into it...

ebpda9 · 03-07-2005, 07:19 PM

i took off my stock ex sway off today. definite improvement in ride quality and handling. the downside ? showing more fender liner

02-06-2005, 07:08 AM	#1
IALuder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Des Moines IA Age: 39 Posts: 7,908	how to beat understeer? Alright... how do you defeat understeer, especially with a 4th gen lude? Wider tires, better tires, better suspension? Also, I have 15"rims with Dunlop SP5000 tires for winter. In the Summer, I have 18"rims with Pirelli PZero Nero m+s tires. 8teenz are just too big. Excellent control though!!! I like the 15" rims, but they don't offer enough control. I would like to keep a smaller diameter, as to improve acceleration. Hence my question... If I go with 16"rims, will I have a decent amount of control? For the rubber, I will probably go 225 or 215 40 16 to keep the diameter smaller. __________________ 93 Si H23vtec......soon to be 12lbs 95 Civic EX....automatic DD if you cant dazzle them with your brillance, baffle them with your bullshit.

02-06-2005, 09:01 AM	#2
Racing Rice Project Combat Honda Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Highland,OH Age: 46 Posts: 7,985	The best way to beat understeer will be a fatter rear swaybar, and skinnier/no front sway bars. A lot of autocrossers will run with no front swaybar at all. __________________ Racing Rice

02-06-2005, 09:48 AM	#3
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 44 Posts: 17,266	i used to have a rear sway bar on the accord with the konis on the hardest setting in the rear and halfway in the front. talk about throwing out the front __________________

02-06-2005, 08:54 PM	#4
IALuder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Des Moines IA Age: 39 Posts: 7,908	ill actually be using toyo T1Ss'. i might try stefans idea. im if itll help beat it. it might screw up my corning all together being that im heavy in the front. __________________ 93 Si H23vtec......soon to be 12lbs 95 Civic EX....automatic DD if you cant dazzle them with your brillance, baffle them with your bullshit.

02-07-2005, 07:45 AM	#5
Racing Rice Project Combat Honda Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Highland,OH Age: 46 Posts: 7,985	lol! I messed up my reply.. I meant to say you should run a smaller or no FRONT sway bar and a thick rear sway bar. I accidently said no/smaller rear swaybar and a thicker rear swaybar.. I must have been half asleep when I replied the first time. __________________ Racing Rice

02-10-2005, 09:20 PM	#6
IALuder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Des Moines IA Age: 39 Posts: 7,908	lol. ill get a bigger sway bar. i dont know which bar to get. the stock bar is huge. no one ever replied to my thread in prelude forum about sway bars. __________________ 93 Si H23vtec......soon to be 12lbs 95 Civic EX....automatic DD if you cant dazzle them with your brillance, baffle them with your bullshit.

02-10-2005, 09:36 PM	#7
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 44 Posts: 17,266	if you have adjustable springs might wanna lower the rear a little more than the front. that will help in better weight distribution. that's what i hate about most springs. they are usually lower by about.25" in the front biasing the weight even more towards the front. __________________

02-11-2005, 11:10 AM	#9
ShEaNy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB Age: 40 Posts: 3,821	Anyone know a good rear sway bar for my car..i can never find one...

02-11-2005, 11:32 AM	#10
IALuder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Des Moines IA Age: 39 Posts: 7,908	do they make them for your car. if so check neuspeed. __________________ 93 Si H23vtec......soon to be 12lbs 95 Civic EX....automatic DD if you cant dazzle them with your brillance, baffle them with your bullshit.

02-11-2005, 12:14 PM	#11
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 44 Posts: 17,266	suspension techniques makes one. i really like them __________________

02-14-2005, 11:32 AM	#12
ShEaNy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB Age: 40 Posts: 3,821	any websites i can find one on? how much they running?

02-17-2005, 10:51 AM	#14
ShEaNy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB Age: 40 Posts: 3,821	aight thanks...ill look into it...

03-07-2005, 07:19 PM	#15
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 44 Posts: 17,266	i took off my stock ex sway off today. definite improvement in ride quality and handling. the downside ? showing more fender liner __________________

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