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IALuder · 10-27-2003, 09:38 PM

ok guys need some information on this swap.

what exactly needs to be changed. i know the motor and ecu. but what else? is there really any difference between the to beside HP and ecu.

this isnt ben, its his friend jason.

(i havent got my own comp so i cant registar.)

armyguy5 · 10-27-2003, 10:53 PM

i believe iu can just do a head swap and get a Vtec head but i'm not sure about the 93

chris

Shaved &/or Laid · 10-28-2003, 12:50 AM

yeah. im selling mine maybe.

thermal · 10-28-2003, 01:09 AM

It should be a straight shot with the exception of those already mentioned.

IALuder · 10-28-2003, 08:42 AM

so just swapping the head would do it? i get 125HP instead of 109? what about my torque?Would it also gian some?

if i do the head swap do i still have to change the ecu?

ebpda9 · 10-28-2003, 09:12 AM

is it really worth it for 14hp gain ? maybe i would go with a b series, or if you plan on building up this one. as for the dx-lx what differences are you talking about ? just the engines ? i know they have different engines, but also there are some trim differences like power locks, power windows and AC.

armyguy5 · 10-28-2003, 11:17 AM

no you wont have to change the ECU...

chris

nonovurbizniz · 10-28-2003, 04:11 PM

^... YES you would need to change the ecu... otherwise vtec won't ever engage... it's computer controlled.

I wouldn't bother doing a headswap... swapping the whole engine/tranny (if you already have them) would be easier...

As far as this not being worth it (hondamaniac)... You'd be a fool to spend more than 600 bucks for a full z6 engine/tranny... so comparing it to a b swap (1500-4000) is kinda out of line...

A sohc vtec engine has more than enough potential and it would be a SIGNIFICANT increase in overall power for someone used to dx power...

I'd say just do the whole swap and save the old block for just in-cases'...

Also the reason I wouldn't recomend swaping heads is...

A. You will not make the same power with a dx bottom end and ex top...
B. The d16z6 has piston squirters (to cool pistons)
C. To properly swap the head you should have both it and the block decked... which in itself is more trouble than it's worth.
D. Even though it's more work swapping the ex and it's harness/ecu in would come out much better and be more reliable than a mini-me head swap.

just my opinion.

IALuder · 10-28-2003, 10:49 PM

ok well i got an engine and im using my dx man tranny till i get somemore money for a ex. can i use stock mounts axels ect ect.

i need a parts list of what i need.
i dont need interior mods.

IALuder · 10-30-2003, 12:48 PM

do you guys now were jason may be able to get a wiring harness and ecu cheap? thanks

*pdiggitydogg* · 10-30-2003, 01:07 PM

what harness and what ecu
what for

IALuder · 10-30-2003, 01:11 PM

For an EX Vtec Engine D series.

10-30-2003, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SFKing
For an EX Vtec Engine D series.

get one at the junk yard.. thats where i would look

IALuder · 10-30-2003, 02:38 PM

good idea, we check 2 a week or so ago and came up empty handed. well check more and recheck the one we already did.

10-27-2003, 09:38 PM	#1
IALuder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Des Moines IA Age: 39 Posts: 7,908	Dx - Ex ok guys need some information on this swap. what exactly needs to be changed. i know the motor and ecu. but what else? is there really any difference between the to beside HP and ecu. this isnt ben, its his friend jason. (i havent got my own comp so i cant registar.)

10-27-2003, 10:53 PM	#2
armyguy5 3rd Gear Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: allendale, mi Age: 42 Posts: 568	i believe iu can just do a head swap and get a Vtec head but i'm not sure about the 93 chris __________________ Cold Air Intake, Front Strut Bar, MTX Thunder 6000 10", Gunmetal Altezza Tail Lights, Short Throw Shifter, Factory Side Skirts and Rear lip, JDM front Lip, Thermal R&D stealth exhaust, 16" Rota Slipstreams in Bronze, Alpine CD/MP3/WMA/XM RADIO, Legacy L7M in car video

10-28-2003, 12:50 AM	#3
Shaved &/or Laid 4th Gear Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nashville Age: 38 Posts: 853	yeah. im selling mine maybe. __________________ Doody Ej1 Yse.

10-28-2003, 01:09 AM	#4
thermal Banning Machine Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: My Garage, Va. Posts: 5,547	It should be a straight shot with the exception of those already mentioned. __________________ Project Teg Visit the Turbo Forum

10-28-2003, 08:42 AM	#5
IALuder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Des Moines IA Age: 39 Posts: 7,908	so just swapping the head would do it? i get 125HP instead of 109? what about my torque?Would it also gian some? if i do the head swap do i still have to change the ecu? __________________ 93 Si H23vtec......soon to be 12lbs 95 Civic EX....automatic DD if you cant dazzle them with your brillance, baffle them with your bullshit.

10-28-2003, 09:12 AM	#6
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 44 Posts: 17,266	is it really worth it for 14hp gain ? maybe i would go with a b series, or if you plan on building up this one. as for the dx-lx what differences are you talking about ? just the engines ? i know they have different engines, but also there are some trim differences like power locks, power windows and AC. __________________

10-28-2003, 11:17 AM	#7
armyguy5 3rd Gear Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: allendale, mi Age: 42 Posts: 568	no you wont have to change the ECU... chris __________________ Cold Air Intake, Front Strut Bar, MTX Thunder 6000 10", Gunmetal Altezza Tail Lights, Short Throw Shifter, Factory Side Skirts and Rear lip, JDM front Lip, Thermal R&D stealth exhaust, 16" Rota Slipstreams in Bronze, Alpine CD/MP3/WMA/XM RADIO, Legacy L7M in car video

10-28-2003, 04:11 PM	#8
nonovurbizniz Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: ECUSA Age: 47 Posts: 2,693	^... YES you would need to change the ecu... otherwise vtec won't ever engage... it's computer controlled. I wouldn't bother doing a headswap... swapping the whole engine/tranny (if you already have them) would be easier... As far as this not being worth it (hondamaniac)... You'd be a fool to spend more than 600 bucks for a full z6 engine/tranny... so comparing it to a b swap (1500-4000) is kinda out of line... A sohc vtec engine has more than enough potential and it would be a SIGNIFICANT increase in overall power for someone used to dx power... I'd say just do the whole swap and save the old block for just in-cases'... Also the reason I wouldn't recomend swaping heads is... A. You will not make the same power with a dx bottom end and ex top... B. The d16z6 has piston squirters (to cool pistons) C. To properly swap the head you should have both it and the block decked... which in itself is more trouble than it's worth. D. Even though it's more work swapping the ex and it's harness/ecu in would come out much better and be more reliable than a mini-me head swap. just my opinion. __________________ I am an A$$hole... take anything I say to heart at YOUR OWN RISK...

10-28-2003, 10:49 PM	#9
IALuder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Des Moines IA Age: 39 Posts: 7,908	ok well i got an engine and im using my dx man tranny till i get somemore money for a ex. can i use stock mounts axels ect ect. i need a parts list of what i need. i dont need interior mods. __________________ 93 Si H23vtec......soon to be 12lbs 95 Civic EX....automatic DD if you cant dazzle them with your brillance, baffle them with your bullshit.

10-30-2003, 12:48 PM	#10
IALuder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Des Moines IA Age: 39 Posts: 7,908	do you guys now were jason may be able to get a wiring harness and ecu cheap? thanks __________________ 93 Si H23vtec......soon to be 12lbs 95 Civic EX....automatic DD if you cant dazzle them with your brillance, baffle them with your bullshit.

10-30-2003, 01:07 PM	#11
pdiggitydogg Yahoo Watashi wa kattaze! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Meanwhile, up in The D... Age: 41 Posts: 10,579	what harness and what ecu what for

10-30-2003, 01:11 PM	#12
IALuder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Des Moines IA Age: 39 Posts: 7,908	For an EX Vtec Engine D series. __________________ 93 Si H23vtec......soon to be 12lbs 95 Civic EX....automatic DD if you cant dazzle them with your brillance, baffle them with your bullshit.

10-30-2003, 02:38 PM	#14
IALuder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Des Moines IA Age: 39 Posts: 7,908	good idea, we check 2 a week or so ago and came up empty handed. well check more and recheck the one we already did. __________________ 93 Si H23vtec......soon to be 12lbs 95 Civic EX....automatic DD if you cant dazzle them with your brillance, baffle them with your bullshit.

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