Killed a neon fruit

Originally posted by VR4_Craver
well i will take this one....

1.) WTF is an expresso next to something you drink.
2.) Ok your time slip? Nothing to brag about. You ran a 15 AFTER you dumped 600$ into.... Am i the only one thats sees the problem there?
3.) A STOCK neon with the 2 litre has 132 hp @ 6 grand and 129 lb-ft @ 5000.
4.)The 1.8 ltr has 115 hp @ 5750 and 112 lb-ft @ 4900. that is nothing impresseive.
5.) stock civic has the 1.8 ltr pushin 125 hp @4500 and 119 lb-ft @ 5000. I think the civic won by my calculations.
6.) i noticed you conveinently left any type-r cars...maybe that one was a coincedence....
7.) My brothers STOCK civic spanked a 96 Neon numerous times and everytime it was the same...
I just proved almost everything you typed wrong.....

Hmm, you're quoting the SOHC neon specs

95 Neon SOHC
132 hp @ 6000
129 lb-ft @ 5000.

95 Civic Si
SOHC VTEC
125 bhp @ 6600
106 lb-ft @ 5200

*Pulls out calculator*
Neon generates 7 more hp at 600 rpm less
and 23 more ft.lbs. torqe at 200 less rpm.


The 95 Neon DOHC has
150hp @ 6000 rpm
133 ft.lbs. torque @ 5600 rpm

95 Civic Si-R (JDM)
DOHC VTEC
160 bhp @ 7600
111 lb-ft @ 7000

*pulls out calculator again*
it takes 1,000 more rpms to gain 35 more hp out of the SiR engine. I find it rather interesting that if you divide the hp rating by the rpm you get 0.021 from the SiR then when you take the end result and multiply it by 5000 rpm which is the neon DOHC hp rating it comes out to 126 right back to the original specs of the SOHC engine. This leads me to beleive that the only way that they got that hp # is by spinning the motor faster. So, you say that the neon loses in hp/tq numbers. How? When the neon engine doesnt have to spin as fast and still generates more torque. Lets stay focused. Now lets say on this same logic tract, that the neon engine (DOHC) ran to 7600 rpm from the factory (it actually has a rev limit of 7350) under these same ideals the neon would generate 190hp at 7600 rpm and 166 ft/lbs torque @ 7000 Interesting huh?