I don't believe in God, i dont' believe in religion

I'm going to add on to what mushroom and blind have said. I didn't want to reply to alot of the things said below only because they were just so ****ing dumb. I think you will all agree that when people come up with insanely rediculous arguements, it is difficult to return that arguement with something that doesn't sound equally as rediculous. Anyway, i tried. I'd also like somebody to explain to me why they think they're religion is the correct one. It is strange that people cannot see the simple logic behind this . Most if not all people who practice a certain religion are positive that they are worshipping the correct god or gods. Yet, if this is so, then the other people must be wrong.. or if they are right, then you are wrong. The answer is people just try to find an answers. Your all wrong. How do you not see that? The simple fact that there are so many different religions with different ideals of the universe, of god (or gods), of life(and/or death), that alone should prove my point.


QUOTE]Originally posted by Racing Rice
My question to you is where is your single solid evidence that there isnt one? I am yet to see any..
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Thats just plain silly. As i have said before and continue to say, as our knowledge of the universe advances there will be more and more evidence against the idea that a god exists. You can't expect me to give you solid evidence on something you people imagined from your heads. Its like trying to prove that ghosts don't exist. Everybody (or at least anybody with half a brain) knows they don't exist, yet you can't 100% disprove it, and at the same time you can't 100% prove it (or mabye you can, i'm no scientist). However, if you go by factual evidence and scientific data, there is no way that ghosts can exist. The same is true with proving or disproving god.

Originally posted by Racing Rice

Would you like me to show you a picture of him that I took with my digital camera? I will as soon as you show me your digital picture of the big bang theory.

Ummm scientists don't just "make up" theories. They have to have sufficient data supporting it first. I don't have an actual photo of the big bang, but there is alot of evidence saying that it did happen.

Originally posted by Gator


So you are saying that you do believe that there is some factual content in the bible, but are questioning 100% accuracy? Since the entire concept of the bible is focused on God, then I guess that's the accurate part.

thats not an argument


i know humans aren't born with an instinct of knowing god because i sure wasn't. They only "learn" about "god" becuase from the time they are born they are exposed to religion. Whether it be the media, friends, family or church, it is ingrained into their brain from a very early age.

Humans have an instinct to survive, how do you not know this, do you go to school? What do you think adrenaline is for, why do you think babies have the reflex to swim when put in water, even though they are too young to know that they can drown and die. What do you think the "fight or flight" response is. Mabye your god should help guide you into learning about shit you should know

Originally posted by Gator


And how is it that you are privy to this first hand knowledge. Were you around at this time and helped to formulate this big vague idea of God? Your arguments are far weaker based on nothing more than skepticism with nothing to back it up.

I didn't formulate a vague idea of god, i applied knowledge i have learned over the course of 20 years to formulate a hypothesis on WHY people think there is a god.

Originally posted by Gator

Wow, and the weather patterns have just mysteriously formed since the onset of time through the intervention of no greater being? Amazing...

Yes well if you go to school you would probably know how the earth was created, the basic elements it contained. You would probably know how solids, liquids and gasses interact with each other. Weather patterns were created through processes like convection, conduction, and all that other good stuff you should know about.

Originally posted by Gator


And just how does giving credit to God somehow become more inconceivable than speculating on a big bang theory followed by a lot of shrugs and "I don't know's"? If you ask me, it's a far greater stretch to say that there was a big crash in the universe and somehow we evolved from Bubbles the Chimp.

Giving credit to God is obviously much more simplier, i'm not disagreeing with you on that. IF we lived hundreds of years ago, without all of the scientific knowledge we have now, i may have agreed with you. But knowing what we know now, it is inconceivable to me.

As far as evolution goes, it is proven that it happens. I don't see how you are trying to debate this. Again, do you go to school?

Originally posted by Gator

Yes, you can see the wind blowing the leaves - but the movement of leaves is not proof of wind. That's proof that the leaves are moveable matter. Feeling the wind against your hand isn't proof of the wind. It's proof that the nerve endings in your hand are sending impulses to your brain. If you're going to knock an analogy, at least do it with a a better argument.

everybody knows that air exists, and the movement of air exists, and that when air is circulating, yes it can move leaves if it wants. And we also know that when air is circulating it can make the "nerve endings in your hand send impulses to your brain". What are you arguing?

Originally posted by Gator



Have you ever felt the emotion of love?
God is love.
I would say that is a feeling...

I don't believe in love. Love is just a made up word. You can say you love somebody, yet you can love somebody else and feel completely different about them. Or you could love somebody, then love somebody else and love them more. So what is the second kind of love, super love or something? I'm not saying humans can't posses strong emotions towards people or things, i'm just saying that to generalize specific feelings into the word "love" is a shame. But i'm not here to discuss whether love exists or not, so lets move on.

Originally posted by Gator

Do you believe slavery existed? How do you know?
Was Lincoln a U.S. president? How do you know?
Did Thomas Edison invent the light bulb? How do you know?

This is too dumb to argue against. But i'll try. I guess i know becuase people tell me so? and oh yeah, and that it can be proven 100%.

Originally posted by Gator


Seems like you are the one with the selective thinking... "well, parts of the bible are based loosely on this and loosely on that but it can't all be accurate... some things must have been screwed up in the translations by man..."

Even learned people who believe in god don't believe alot of things in the bible. They say that alot of it is symbolism. For example, when jesus made some breadbasket that never was empty, they say that what he really did was break up the bread so everybody got a piece. I don't remember much about it, but you get the idea.

Originally posted by 4jacks


Bootstrap ?!?!? How come you didn't quote me... I feel dissapointed... yet complimented...

i don't know what you said, but i probably didn't quote you either becuase you a) weren't proving a point or b) your a dumbass



Here's the end of your debate... attempt to quote me if you dare...

Originally posted by 4jacks

The man Jesus did exist.... Proven by many other sources than the bible...

i'm not saying a man named jesus did not exist, i'm just saying he wasn't the son of god

Originally posted by 4jacks

the man Jesus did preform miracles... proven by many other sources than the bible...

IF you gave me the sources then mabye you'd be on your way in trying to prove your point...? just a suggestion

Originally posted by 4jacks


We must either chose to believe that or disbelieve based on the records that we have.
Well we have many records stating he worked up crowds with miracles and magic acts...

people do that today, i.e. magicians and con-artists. So your saying that magic isn't really just illusians, you mean people can really levetate? Or you mean when people today are "healed" instantly that it really happens, its not staged?