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Jorelinio · 03-13-2006, 09:03 AM

Hello i have big problem to build my motor.
I buy eagle rods to my D16Z6 but the number on the rod is 5394A i think rods is wrong???Can you tell is this correct number for my motor with specs
Ohhh and i buy pistons nippon racing with low comp. 8,8:1 but pistons doesn't fit to rods becouse the rod is bigger to the end (where rings in), with one or two mm.I think pistons are made to stock rods. And one more question how much hp i can hold stock rods with these pistons?
Please tell me what can i do in my example. THANKS

JDMFantasy2k · 03-13-2006, 10:09 AM

yeah so i'm not sure how you did that, but you obviously ordered wrong parts or something.

And don't even think of using those pistons with stock rods. Stock rods can hold about 200HP, but anything over that is a gamble. I believe they usually fail around 230. Althoguh you can use rods from LS motors, and i believe there's a write up in the how-to section.

thermal · 03-13-2006, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jorelinio

...... Ohhh and i buy pistons nippon racing with low comp. 8,8:1 but pistons doesn't fit to rods becouse the rod is bigger to the end (where rings in), with one or two mm.I think pistons are made to stock rods. And one more question how much hp i can hold stock rods with these pistons?
Please tell me what can i do in my example. THANKS

First off, like what JDM stated above, do NOT use aftermarket pistons on stock rods. That is just non-sense. D-series rods are very skinny. It is pointless to upgrade the pistons and leave the rods stock. Which is the very reason why the aftermarket pistons are not fitting on the stock rods. I suggest that you call the place you bought the pistons from and ask to get the aftermarket rods that will fit to those pistons.

Why did you get such a low compression pistons? I think that you should've stayed around 9.1-9.5:1 compression. If you were trying to make torque to compromise your choice of those low compression pistons, then you are sadly mistaken. The stroke on D-series motors are long, which will already give you the torque that you might be wanting.

Not trying to flame you man. Just stating some of your options and solutions. Goodluck with the project and keep us posted bro.

Jorelinio · 03-14-2006, 08:04 AM

Thanks for quick responds

Pistons will fit but now rods is the problem i write to my seller about the problem. He will say something may be tommorow.
Thermal how much HP can i expect with these things:
Pistons to 8,8:1 or 8,5with low gasket ( i know it is stupid low compr. but i will put more pressure

around 1.0- 1,5 bar ) with Eagle rods, turbo is t3 42.48 and 440cc injectors. may be 200?? or more ...
P.S I want around 250 whp

thermal · 03-14-2006, 12:02 PM

More boost does not necessarily mean more power. With low compression pistons plus thicker head gasket, you will end even lower than 8.5:1. If you do this, that tiny 1.6 SOHC will have close to no power on the low RPMs, unless you rev it up which puts more wear on your motor. Please listen to me. Do not believe the hype of low compression plus higher boost = safer. It is all about fuel management and tuning. I've build a couple of D-series turbos before. With stock Y8 compression, stock internals, Trust TD04h-19t turbo, and Hondata S200b, we made well over 220 whp at 9 psi.

My suggestion is that you keep those aftermarket pistons, use stock thickness headgasket, "mill" the head, and target a compression of 9.1 to 9.5:1. This will give you a little bit more compression and prevent the ADIABATIC stage of your turbo. T3 is small turbo. You will most likely reach it peak efficiency by 230-250 whp. If you stick with too low of a compression, this will only mean that your T3 will peak even sooner to gain a decent power band........

Jorelinio · 05-23-2006, 07:26 AM

Goodluck with the project and keep us posted bro.

[/quote]

Hi all,
Thermal
I am not boosted yet

but finally i buy other turbo kit not t3. See on ebay 8067238874 part number

is it good? now i want to buy SRP pistons with 9:0.1 and sell the Nippon pistons

The Eagle h beam is correct

This week comes turbo and i will put finally ot stock motor to see how it is

) i would like to run it on 3-5psi for now but i am afraid to blow motor

What you suggest me to do to run it safely?
Here some pics on my civic:

Thanks

thermal · 05-23-2006, 09:18 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=80 67238874

Bro, if you want my honest opinion, I can tell you. That is an SSautochrome kit. Enough said. Just keep an eye on the manifold and turbo. Hopefully they have made some improvements. Lastly, that kit does not have any type of fuel management. Do not go turbo unless you have a fuel management system. Goodluck....

Jorelinio · 05-24-2006, 03:52 AM

Ok bro i think greddy blue box will fit?
Should i expect some other problems? to blow something or something else on 5 psi?

thermal · 05-24-2006, 12:55 PM

The GReddy blue box will be fine. It will still run "rich" but better than "lean". 5 psi will be okay.

The turbo manifold on those as notorious to crack. The turbo also had issues with the compressor housing splitting in half. They use a glue to keep it together.

Jorelinio · 06-11-2006, 02:25 PM

Hi Thermal i am turbo man from yesterday

. I have problems with IC pipes and fitings but now everything is ok

i am 100% with stock engine only little modification like sparks, fuel management.For the moment i drive the car on 5-6psi and for now work good so i am very pleased

but i don't know what is mixture precisely and i don't have detonations or something but i hope that there will be no problems. Tomorrow i will give some pics.

thermal · 06-11-2006, 07:33 PM

good job

Jorelinio · 06-20-2006, 11:06 AM

Some pics

thermal · 06-20-2006, 09:53 PM

looks good.... but man, you gotta spray that engine bay with something. Just put a plastic bag over the distributor, fuse box, air filter, battery terminal, ............why did you paint the intercooler GReddy?

Sivik · 06-23-2006, 08:37 AM

so what are you planning on doing for fuel management?

thermal · 06-23-2006, 10:09 AM

I think he is using a GReddy Blue Box....

Jorelinio · 06-25-2006, 03:36 AM

Yeah a have greddy blue box but for now i using a chip with ready map for my setup. Car run very good for now. Turbo start in 3.5rpm and hold to the end 6-7psi.I drive it to 7000prm and dont have problems. I made for now 15,6 for 1/4mile it is good for this psi??? i think he can more but i very roll tires from one to third gear and i whant to ask you what you think how much hp can i expect for these psi?

thermal · 06-25-2006, 10:22 AM

at 6-7 psi, you are barely on the 150whp range. Dyno tune it for optimum A/F ratio and ignition timing to extract more of that boost. You can safely run 10 psi on a single cam if you DYNO tune it.

Jorelinio · 06-26-2006, 05:29 AM

I think she is more than 150whp becouse i drag with 2 civic VTI 160whp and i beat them with very much.But i dont know

What time can i made on 1 bar?What do you think?

thermal · 06-27-2006, 12:17 AM

VTi is equivalent to a USDM B16A 160 FHP (Flywheel Horsepower). On the dyno, these motors will be lucky to see 145WHP.

You cannot run 1 BAR on stock map sensor. Max is 11psi. You will blow your stock motor at 1 BAR anyway......

Jorelinio · 10-08-2006, 04:07 PM

Hi thermal how are you

Everything is normal with my setup but I would like to ask-what do you think for Y.C.P pistons,Vitaras...? Do you know someone with thease pistons? becouse i am wondering what pistons to buy...my budget is small for now?

thermal · 10-08-2006, 04:51 PM

Havent heard of YCP pistons.... unless it is a typo and you meant CP pistons. Good stuff there. I have never used Suzuki Vitara pistons neither but I've heard that they work pretty well on a few members of Honda-Tech.com. Contact Boostfed on honda-tech.com to see if he can get you tose pistons. Tell him I sent you his way......

JDMFantasy2k · 10-09-2006, 12:33 AM

cp are the best. Although i believe there's now a few guys layin down over 400 on vitaras. Granted, i'm not sure how long the vitaras are going to last. All depends on your power goals and budget.

Jorelinio · 10-09-2006, 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thermal

Havent heard of YCP pistons.... unless it is a typo and you meant CP pistons. Good stuff there. I have never used Suzuki Vitara pistons neither but I've heard that they work pretty well on a few members of Honda-Tech.com. Contact Boostfed on honda-tech.com to see if he can get you tose pistons. Tell him I sent you his way......

Ok thanks Thermal
I hope to write on same person becouse they have may be ten members with nickname boostfed i write to Boostfed.com-terry

Jorelinio · 10-09-2006, 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDMFantasy2k

cp are the best. Although i believe there's now a few guys layin down over 400 on vitaras. Granted, i'm not sure how long the vitaras are going to last. All depends on your power goals and budget.

And i think like you Cp is the best but in the moment i don't have 500$ for tose

My goals is to hit from 230 to 300whp

eric101 · 11-05-2006, 07:14 PM

nice ride dude! where can i get these Honda Performance Parts?

thermal · 11-05-2006, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eric101

nice ride dude! where can i get these Honda Performance Parts?

Nice try. Why not ask where to get a specific part.............

fertooos · 08-27-2020, 05:55 PM

Good day. It still seems to me that you bought the wrong parts. Something is wrong here and if I were you, I would have turned to a service station. In general, I always believed that if you cannot cope with something on your own, go to a specialist. When I can't write an essay, I order it from the free essay writing service. Now I use this https://www.customwritings.com/free-essay.html service almost regularly and I am very satisfied. So you should listen and repair your car at the service station.

03-13-2006, 09:03 AM	#1
Jorelinio Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bulgaria Age: 43 Posts: 16	A problem to build my D16Z6 Turbo Hello i have big problem to build my motor. I buy eagle rods to my D16Z6 but the number on the rod is 5394A i think rods is wrong???Can you tell is this correct number for my motor with specs Ohhh and i buy pistons nippon racing with low comp. 8,8:1 but pistons doesn't fit to rods becouse the rod is bigger to the end (where rings in), with one or two mm.I think pistons are made to stock rods. And one more question how much hp i can hold stock rods with these pistons? Please tell me what can i do in my example. THANKS

03-13-2006, 10:09 AM	#2
JDMFantasy2k Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: northeastern connecticut Age: 38 Posts: 1,765	yeah so i'm not sure how you did that, but you obviously ordered wrong parts or something. And don't even think of using those pistons with stock rods. Stock rods can hold about 200HP, but anything over that is a gamble. I believe they usually fail around 230. Althoguh you can use rods from LS motors, and i believe there's a write up in the how-to section. __________________

03-14-2006, 08:04 AM	#4
Jorelinio Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bulgaria Age: 43 Posts: 16	:) Thanks for quick responds Pistons will fit but now rods is the problem i write to my seller about the problem. He will say something may be tommorow. Thermal how much HP can i expect with these things: Pistons to 8,8:1 or 8,5with low gasket ( i know it is stupid low compr. but i will put more pressure around 1.0- 1,5 bar ) with Eagle rods, turbo is t3 42.48 and 440cc injectors. may be 200?? or more ... P.S I want around 250 whp

03-14-2006, 12:02 PM	#5
thermal Banning Machine Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: My Garage, Va. Posts: 5,547	More boost does not necessarily mean more power. With low compression pistons plus thicker head gasket, you will end even lower than 8.5:1. If you do this, that tiny 1.6 SOHC will have close to no power on the low RPMs, unless you rev it up which puts more wear on your motor. Please listen to me. Do not believe the hype of low compression plus higher boost = safer. It is all about fuel management and tuning. I've build a couple of D-series turbos before. With stock Y8 compression, stock internals, Trust TD04h-19t turbo, and Hondata S200b, we made well over 220 whp at 9 psi. My suggestion is that you keep those aftermarket pistons, use stock thickness headgasket, "mill" the head, and target a compression of 9.1 to 9.5:1. This will give you a little bit more compression and prevent the ADIABATIC stage of your turbo. T3 is small turbo. You will most likely reach it peak efficiency by 230-250 whp. If you stick with too low of a compression, this will only mean that your T3 will peak even sooner to gain a decent power band........ __________________ Project Teg Visit the Turbo Forum

05-23-2006, 07:26 AM	#6
Jorelinio Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bulgaria Age: 43 Posts: 16	Goodluck with the project and keep us posted bro.[/quote] Hi all, Thermal I am not boosted yet but finally i buy other turbo kit not t3. See on ebay 8067238874 part numberis it good? now i want to buy SRP pistons with 9:0.1 and sell the Nippon pistons The Eagle h beam is correct This week comes turbo and i will put finally ot stock motor to see how it is ) i would like to run it on 3-5psi for now but i am afraid to blow motor What you suggest me to do to run it safely? Here some pics on my civic: Thanks Last edited by Jorelinio : 05-23-2006 at 07:31 AM.

05-23-2006, 09:18 PM	#7
thermal Banning Machine Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: My Garage, Va. Posts: 5,547	http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=80 67238874 Bro, if you want my honest opinion, I can tell you. That is an SSautochrome kit. Enough said. Just keep an eye on the manifold and turbo. Hopefully they have made some improvements. Lastly, that kit does not have any type of fuel management. Do not go turbo unless you have a fuel management system. Goodluck.... __________________ Project Teg Visit the Turbo Forum

05-24-2006, 03:52 AM	#8
Jorelinio Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bulgaria Age: 43 Posts: 16	Ok bro i think greddy blue box will fit? Should i expect some other problems? to blow something or something else on 5 psi?

05-24-2006, 12:55 PM	#9
thermal Banning Machine Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: My Garage, Va. Posts: 5,547	The GReddy blue box will be fine. It will still run "rich" but better than "lean". 5 psi will be okay. The turbo manifold on those as notorious to crack. The turbo also had issues with the compressor housing splitting in half. They use a glue to keep it together. __________________ Project Teg Visit the Turbo Forum

06-11-2006, 02:25 PM	#10
Jorelinio Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bulgaria Age: 43 Posts: 16	Hi Thermal i am turbo man from yesterday . I have problems with IC pipes and fitings but now everything is ok i am 100% with stock engine only little modification like sparks, fuel management.For the moment i drive the car on 5-6psi and for now work good so i am very pleased but i don't know what is mixture precisely and i don't have detonations or something but i hope that there will be no problems. Tomorrow i will give some pics.

06-11-2006, 07:33 PM	#11
thermal Banning Machine Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: My Garage, Va. Posts: 5,547	good job __________________ Project Teg Visit the Turbo Forum

06-20-2006, 11:06 AM	#12
Jorelinio Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bulgaria Age: 43 Posts: 16	Some pics

06-20-2006, 09:53 PM	#13
thermal Banning Machine Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: My Garage, Va. Posts: 5,547	looks good.... but man, you gotta spray that engine bay with something. Just put a plastic bag over the distributor, fuse box, air filter, battery terminal, ............why did you paint the intercooler GReddy? __________________ Project Teg Visit the Turbo Forum

06-23-2006, 08:37 AM	#14
Sivik Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gainesville, FL Posts: 331	so what are you planning on doing for fuel management? __________________ Turbo'd 98 Honda Civic EX My Car My Car is for sale

06-23-2006, 10:09 AM	#15
thermal Banning Machine Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: My Garage, Va. Posts: 5,547	I think he is using a GReddy Blue Box.... __________________ Project Teg Visit the Turbo Forum

06-25-2006, 03:36 AM	#16
Jorelinio Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bulgaria Age: 43 Posts: 16	Yeah a have greddy blue box but for now i using a chip with ready map for my setup. Car run very good for now. Turbo start in 3.5rpm and hold to the end 6-7psi.I drive it to 7000prm and dont have problems. I made for now 15,6 for 1/4mile it is good for this psi??? i think he can more but i very roll tires from one to third gear and i whant to ask you what you think how much hp can i expect for these psi?

06-25-2006, 10:22 AM	#17
thermal Banning Machine Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: My Garage, Va. Posts: 5,547	at 6-7 psi, you are barely on the 150whp range. Dyno tune it for optimum A/F ratio and ignition timing to extract more of that boost. You can safely run 10 psi on a single cam if you DYNO tune it. __________________ Project Teg Visit the Turbo Forum

06-26-2006, 05:29 AM	#18
Jorelinio Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bulgaria Age: 43 Posts: 16	I think she is more than 150whp becouse i drag with 2 civic VTI 160whp and i beat them with very much.But i dont know What time can i made on 1 bar?What do you think?

06-27-2006, 12:17 AM	#19
thermal Banning Machine Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: My Garage, Va. Posts: 5,547	VTi is equivalent to a USDM B16A 160 FHP (Flywheel Horsepower). On the dyno, these motors will be lucky to see 145WHP. You cannot run 1 BAR on stock map sensor. Max is 11psi. You will blow your stock motor at 1 BAR anyway...... __________________ Project Teg Visit the Turbo Forum

10-08-2006, 04:07 PM	#20
Jorelinio Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bulgaria Age: 43 Posts: 16	Hi thermal how are you Everything is normal with my setup but I would like to ask-what do you think for Y.C.P pistons,Vitaras...? Do you know someone with thease pistons? becouse i am wondering what pistons to buy...my budget is small for now?

10-08-2006, 04:51 PM	#21
thermal Banning Machine Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: My Garage, Va. Posts: 5,547	Havent heard of YCP pistons.... unless it is a typo and you meant CP pistons. Good stuff there. I have never used Suzuki Vitara pistons neither but I've heard that they work pretty well on a few members of Honda-Tech.com. Contact Boostfed on honda-tech.com to see if he can get you tose pistons. Tell him I sent you his way...... __________________ Project Teg Visit the Turbo Forum

10-09-2006, 12:33 AM	#22
JDMFantasy2k Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: northeastern connecticut Age: 38 Posts: 1,765	cp are the best. Although i believe there's now a few guys layin down over 400 on vitaras. Granted, i'm not sure how long the vitaras are going to last. All depends on your power goals and budget. __________________

11-05-2006, 07:14 PM	#25
eric101 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2	nice ride dude! where can i get these Honda Performance Parts? Last edited by thermal : 11-05-2006 at 11:13 PM.

08-27-2020, 05:55 PM	#27
fertooos Registered User Join Date: Mar 2020 Posts: 68	Good day. It still seems to me that you bought the wrong parts. Something is wrong here and if I were you, I would have turned to a service station. In general, I always believed that if you cannot cope with something on your own, go to a specialist. When I can't write an essay, I order it from the free essay writing service. Now I use this https://www.customwritings.com/free-essay.html service almost regularly and I am very satisfied. So you should listen and repair your car at the service station. Last edited by fertooos : 08-28-2020 at 01:29 PM.

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