Anyone watch the stock market at all?

[Robert]

Azcivic -

I don't think you really know what you're talking about. You can buy a car radio that can play sat radio and not get a subscription for the service and just use it to play local radio, mp3's, dvd or whatever else you can get a car stereo to do.

Advertising up here for Siris has invovled the push for handheld units that play sat radio and competing directly with Ipods & the like.This is what I am refering to, I realize there are hybrid units, just like there are tvs w/ dvd players built in. However When strictly compairing the product sat radio which requires an on going fee there is a difference.

Sat radio most compares to cable, internet and cellphone uses. All of which had low rates of adoption. Hence my stock comment. Further more you can get free dialup internet access if you're willing to watch ads on your computer. Whats a 56k modem these days? $14? And we get our DSL modem for free. Is there a sampler package with sat radio?

changing consumer behaviors? how is getting sat radio for a car thats more than likely equiped w/ a sat ready radio changing anything? did you complain when car companies started having only CD players instead of tape players? probably not cause CD is better and people want the best if they can afford it.

I gather you're not in marketing. The change in consumer behaviour is radio = free & sat radio = fee. Notice the difference? Thats the change in behaviour.

If car comanies starting selling cars that only played sat. radio and not am/fm I think you would see a difference. Since CD's are 20 years old, and highly adopted your not comparing apples to apples. Sat. radio is new.

Stock market comments
No its not the same as before, there is less faith in the market, investors are concerned with the high US debt and the recent auto industry shake ups.

Marginalizing my comments on the stock market because you dont understand them only serves to hurt you if you choose to invest.

My issue with sat radio is that I dont think people are willing to pay for it. The concept is great, I like commerical free at high quaility play back, I just dont think people are going to get excited over sat radio.

It actually reminds me of GM's onstar program. For the first few years they tried to sell it as an upgrade when purchasing cars, now it comes free for the first year. Wonder why? Cause the product doesn't get excepted otherwise and people dont feel the need to buy it until they use it.

If sat. radio is to improve its adoption rate which at 10million is extreemly low, they wil have to form a partnership

[nonovurbizniz]

Another thing that people don't seem to recognize here is...

If you don't live in a MAJOR Radio market chacnes are you have TERRIBLE reception and even if you're in a majore markey you get TERRIBLE programming/choice...

And frankly I'd say in the next 2-3 years I might seriously consider getting it... and chances are if I were to buy a new car that came with it I'd keep it.

(I know like 15-20 people who said VIAMENTLY that they would not keep the XM or Sirius past the initial free period 13-14 of them ended up keeping it)

ALSO another point that everyone here seems to ignore is there are VAST VAST VAST area's of this country with little to NO reception... or they're such small markets there are no big radio stations (of course they generally have MUCH better radio... just no power to broadcast it).

Like AZ said... "free" radio is free because

A. It's LOADED with commercials
B. It panders to the masses so it plays drivle and not just that the SAME drivel...

I live in the NY radio market and have previously lived in the Boston Radio market...

ALL radio markets are the same (not just that but they're ALL owned by like 3 different media companies)... A couple EZ listening stations, a couple rap stations, a couple modern rock stations, a couple classic rock stations and some public radio...

Either way NONE of the stations have more than like 100 songs (AT MOST) in their current playlists...

Radio sucks bad... If I visited my parents more often or had a longer commute there would have been no question for me... Although I'm still pretty convinced that the chances of me finding more than one or two stations I like even on sat. radio is slim to none.