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Old 02-21-2006, 12:43 AM   #1
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"death to israel" is not free speech, it is a threat. if you said "death to jimmy carter" you would be prosecuted for a threat. We do the same, only on a global level. the two examples you used to support irony are at best poorly related.

I am 100% for free speech. I support the Danish paper's right to publish offensive cartoons (also support the paper losing market share if their reading populace is so offended... free market, baby!) and I support the muslim community's right to protest. I do NOT support their right to protest violently or to threaten any individual, group of people, or country. Ever heard of preemptive strike?

here you go nonov, more koolaid you can drink;
http://www.alternativeinsight.com/Pr...ve_strike.html
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Old 02-21-2006, 01:15 AM   #2
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Technically "death to Israel" doesn't constitute a direct threat. If he'd said "I'm going to destroy Israel" then yeah. But lots of misguided people in this country say "death to Israel" (for context, take a trip over to the message boards at www.resistance.com) and have yet to be labeled terrorists or imprisoned for making threats. Besides, Israel isn't the U.S. I know it sounds callous, but let them fend for themselves. The only people our government has to protect is us. If we keep trying to stand up for people all over the world because we perceive them as allies we'll be at this forever. That...or our military will implode and we'll be 100 times more fucked than we are right now.

I thumbed through that site and while it's mostly whiny pussy bullshit, there is one good point. NONE of the countries in that part of the world even if nuclear equipped can harm us while we give free passes to those that could. We sure as shit didn't seem to have any problem pissing off the french when they stood against us. It's pretty arrogant of us to tell other countries to disarm while we bulk up.

Fuck it...I need to study for my Korean test.
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