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GT40FIED · 01-24-2006, 05:03 PM

Any class labeled "Korean Language And Culture" may not be as easy as one might surmize. I walked in yesterday for my first class and immediately got lost. I will be so fucking screwed when tests come around. More than half the class are asian exchange students (no Koreans...all Taiwanese, Chinese and Japanese) who all know at least a little Korean...so there goes the curve.

I also find it funny that my teacher who is obviously a native born Korean (she can't be more than a few years older than me...and she's damn cute) puts such a huge emphasis on pronounciation, but constantly misses the "L" sound in any given word. I know, it's a language thing. I'm just suprised I'm being held to a higher standard than my teacher.

nonovurbizniz · 01-24-2006, 05:21 PM

Yeah man I never got that at all... asian languages are all about pronunciation... the wrong enflection on the same word can mean totally different things...

My brother took chinese at one point and apparently hospital and umbrella are damn near identical.

And same goes for not understanding why asians don't pronounce engrish wolds collectry... lol.

If all the R's sound like L's and the L's like R's why not just switch them... that's an odd occurance if you ask me.

My dad does TONS and TONS of business with japanesse folks... this one dude was over talking about his college years in the US and he had these GREAT Lead Pants..... It took me like 15 times of hearing it and then him pronouncing another R as L to figure out he meant RED Pants... lol.

GT40FIED · 01-24-2006, 05:26 PM

Well that part I get. They don't have a traditional "L" sound. It's more like using your tongue to make an "L" sound and then trying to make an "R" sound which is why so many asians make that mistake. I'm just a grammar nazi I guess. It also bugs me that she sometimes doesn't pluralize words or pluaralizes the wrong ones. She uses words like "peoples" (not in the possessive sense) and says stuff like "when you take all the test".

I'd still throw a hump into her.

Robert · 01-24-2006, 08:09 PM

I have had that problem many times, i think there should be speech standards for proffs.

dabouncerx24 · 01-25-2006, 03:28 AM

^Thank you.

My chem professor speaks with a huge accent, and science lectures go at the fastest rate.

nonovurbizniz - Did you brother take canto or mandarin? Because those two words is pretty distinct in canto.

GT40FIED · 01-25-2006, 03:44 AM

I had a graduate assistant last year that was from India (she was also fine as hell). She had a bit of an accent but she told us up front "if you can't understand me, stop me and ask me to repeat it". She knew not everyone could understand her and she was totally cool about it. Nowadays any bigger university has TONS of foreign folks (usually East Indian for some reason) teaching undergraduate level courses. And forget about asking questions when you're in a lecture class of 250-500 kids. This is why I didn't go to KU.

But hey...I'm with you guys...I don't care how well versed you are on a subject. If I can't understand you, I'm not learning a damn thing. However, if they're aware and cool about slowing down or answering questions, no problem.

Hey dabouncer (sorry man...don't know your name

)...you speak Canto, right? What would you say is more widely spoken, Mandarin or Cantonese? I know Canto is spoken in HK and Taiwan and the Canton province, but there's a whole lot more of China than just that and I assume the speak Mandarin.

nonovurbizniz · 01-25-2006, 09:39 AM

I THINK my brother took mandarin... not sure though..

Also the example he gave me could have been arbitrary but I'm pretty sure he failed a test because he said "Please take me to the umbrella"

dabouncerx24 · 01-25-2006, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GT40FIED

Hey dabouncer (sorry man...don't know your name)...you speak Canto, right? What would you say is more widely spoken, Mandarin or Cantonese? I know Canto is spoken in HK and Taiwan and the Canton province, but there's a whole lot more of China than just that and I assume the speak Mandarin.

It's Gary, nice to meet you

. Yeah, I speak canto. And mandarin speakers outnumber canto speakers..I would say at least 5:1.
Actually, Taiwanese speak a slightly modified version of mandarin, but you're definitely right on Canton province. The dialect is named after it after all

CD5Passion · 01-25-2006, 05:56 PM

mu cultural studies teacher last year is from japan and I had to laugh everytime she said Sculpture...it always came out as Scullupture

MissJDM · 01-29-2006, 12:56 PM

Anyone wanna learn Vietnamese? I'll start a class

GT40FIED · 01-29-2006, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MissJDM
Anyone wanna learn Vietnamese? I'll start a class

Actually I do. But no one teaches a class for it.

01-24-2006, 05:03 PM	#1
GT40FIED Best...mod...ever Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: At the end of the longest line Age: 43 Posts: 7,451	Don't be fooled Any class labeled "Korean Language And Culture" may not be as easy as one might surmize. I walked in yesterday for my first class and immediately got lost. I will be so fucking screwed when tests come around. More than half the class are asian exchange students (no Koreans...all Taiwanese, Chinese and Japanese) who all know at least a little Korean...so there goes the curve. I also find it funny that my teacher who is obviously a native born Korean (she can't be more than a few years older than me...and she's damn cute) puts such a huge emphasis on pronounciation, but constantly misses the "L" sound in any given word. I know, it's a language thing. I'm just suprised I'm being held to a higher standard than my teacher. __________________ 1984 1/2 Mustang GT350 #842, Faster than you...nuff said Anna Fan Club President/Dictator Someday, in the event that mankind actually figures out what it is that this world actually revoles around, thousands of people are going to be shocked and perplexed that it was not them. Sometimes this includes me. "If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." - George Orwell Welcome to the new Amerika

01-24-2006, 05:21 PM	#2
nonovurbizniz Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: ECUSA Age: 48 Posts: 2,693	Yeah man I never got that at all... asian languages are all about pronunciation... the wrong enflection on the same word can mean totally different things... My brother took chinese at one point and apparently hospital and umbrella are damn near identical. And same goes for not understanding why asians don't pronounce engrish wolds collectry... lol. If all the R's sound like L's and the L's like R's why not just switch them... that's an odd occurance if you ask me. My dad does TONS and TONS of business with japanesse folks... this one dude was over talking about his college years in the US and he had these GREAT Lead Pants..... It took me like 15 times of hearing it and then him pronouncing another R as L to figure out he meant RED Pants... lol. __________________ I am an A$$hole... take anything I say to heart at YOUR OWN RISK...

01-24-2006, 05:26 PM	#3
GT40FIED Best...mod...ever Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: At the end of the longest line Age: 43 Posts: 7,451	Well that part I get. They don't have a traditional "L" sound. It's more like using your tongue to make an "L" sound and then trying to make an "R" sound which is why so many asians make that mistake. I'm just a grammar nazi I guess. It also bugs me that she sometimes doesn't pluralize words or pluaralizes the wrong ones. She uses words like "peoples" (not in the possessive sense) and says stuff like "when you take all the test". I'd still throw a hump into her. __________________ 1984 1/2 Mustang GT350 #842, Faster than you...nuff said Anna Fan Club President/Dictator Someday, in the event that mankind actually figures out what it is that this world actually revoles around, thousands of people are going to be shocked and perplexed that it was not them. Sometimes this includes me. "If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." - George Orwell Welcome to the new Amerika

01-25-2006, 03:44 AM	#6
GT40FIED Best...mod...ever Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: At the end of the longest line Age: 43 Posts: 7,451	I had a graduate assistant last year that was from India (she was also fine as hell). She had a bit of an accent but she told us up front "if you can't understand me, stop me and ask me to repeat it". She knew not everyone could understand her and she was totally cool about it. Nowadays any bigger university has TONS of foreign folks (usually East Indian for some reason) teaching undergraduate level courses. And forget about asking questions when you're in a lecture class of 250-500 kids. This is why I didn't go to KU. But hey...I'm with you guys...I don't care how well versed you are on a subject. If I can't understand you, I'm not learning a damn thing. However, if they're aware and cool about slowing down or answering questions, no problem. Hey dabouncer (sorry man...don't know your name)...you speak Canto, right? What would you say is more widely spoken, Mandarin or Cantonese? I know Canto is spoken in HK and Taiwan and the Canton province, but there's a whole lot more of China than just that and I assume the speak Mandarin. __________________ 1984 1/2 Mustang GT350 #842, Faster than you...nuff said Anna Fan Club President/Dictator Someday, in the event that mankind actually figures out what it is that this world actually revoles around, thousands of people are going to be shocked and perplexed that it was not them. Sometimes this includes me. "If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." - George Orwell Welcome to the new Amerika

01-25-2006, 09:39 AM	#7
nonovurbizniz Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: ECUSA Age: 48 Posts: 2,693	I THINK my brother took mandarin... not sure though.. Also the example he gave me could have been arbitrary but I'm pretty sure he failed a test because he said "Please take me to the umbrella" __________________ I am an A$$hole... take anything I say to heart at YOUR OWN RISK...

01-24-2006, 08:09 PM	#4
Robert R-Tard Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 612	I have had that problem many times, i think there should be speech standards for proffs.

01-25-2006, 03:28 AM	#5
dabouncerx24 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 548	^Thank you. My chem professor speaks with a huge accent, and science lectures go at the fastest rate. nonovurbizniz - Did you brother take canto or mandarin? Because those two words is pretty distinct in canto.

01-25-2006, 05:56 PM	#9
CD5Passion Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Santa Barbara, California Age: 39 Posts: 5,446	mu cultural studies teacher last year is from japan and I had to laugh everytime she said Sculpture...it always came out as Scullupture __________________

01-29-2006, 12:56 PM	#10
MissJDM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: West Coast Age: 38 Posts: 2,244	Anyone wanna learn Vietnamese? I'll start a class __________________ you say it best when you say nothing at all

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