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Civic_RedLine · 12-23-2004, 09:46 PM

cheap grille. Good cf hood.
Going to change the grill back to stock and add the window washer nozzles tomorrow.

Civic_RedLine · 12-23-2004, 09:48 PM

great!

Civic_RedLine · 12-23-2004, 09:50 PM

into the intake

Civic_RedLine · 12-23-2004, 09:51 PM

another

Civic_RedLine · 12-23-2004, 09:52 PM

Civic_RedLine · 12-23-2004, 09:52 PM

nitrous

*AzCivic* · 12-24-2004, 04:14 PM

looks good from what i can tell. i'd recommend zip tying the nitrous/fuel solenoids to something so they're not bouncing around while you drive, which might make the lines come undone.

Civic_RedLine · 12-24-2004, 10:15 PM

Im about 5 miles away from edelbrock. they already know me + The guy at edelbrock gave me his personal card. If anything goes wrong, edelbrock will replace for one year. ANyways, Im running hella good with 80 shots of nitrous. I love it!!!!!!!!!
After first bottle, I now conserve the nitrous because being trigger happy wastes money. Mostly when nitrous doesnt need to be used.

Blah, my engine is hella dirty. I need to clean the engine first before any other mod.

*AzCivic* · 12-25-2004, 01:12 AM

what nitrous/fuel jets are you running? the actual # thats on the jets.

Civic_RedLine · 12-25-2004, 03:37 AM

.030 for nitrous and .026 for fuel

Civic_RedLine · 12-25-2004, 03:41 AM

Its fun to see a spec-v with intake and a prelude lose to a civic. I/H/E si is no match now. I raced my friends 04 tc stick shift. I gave him a head start and still burned him. Not that scion tcs have that much power, but it does have 32 more stock horse.

*AzCivic* · 12-25-2004, 11:39 PM

that nitrous jet is for the 40hp shot, not 80. which is GOOD, i was wondering how you were running around w/ an 80shot spraying all the time and not blowing your motor.

that fuel jet is too big, which is why you are running rich. do you have a .017 or so jet?

thermal · 12-25-2004, 11:44 PM

fuk man.....
I wish I still have the "pull" that I used to have on this board. I would've gotten you the moderator spot here. Keep up the awesome job on nitrous tech AZciv...........

*AzCivic* · 12-26-2004, 01:01 AM

thanks man, it means alot.

Civic_RedLine · 12-26-2004, 03:09 AM

bleh. Only jetting sizes I got was .024 .025 .026 .026 .028 .030
I'm using the max which is 80 horse.
BTW Edelbrock recomended me to start with 40 horse at first. But he also said, if I must run 80 go for it. All he said was, "DO NOT GO OVER 80 shots".
The thing is, how can I when there is no more jets for this car.

Im not running rich anymore. After I got the pressure gauge on, I only spray when the botth is around 12-14 which is in the yellow or greenish zone. That is when I run perfectly fine. Its better to use my nitrous on a regular sunny *hot* california day than a winter day. Which is why I cant wait til california gets hot. I always thought california weather was too hot, but found out thats its actually the best time to use my bottle.

*AzCivic* · 12-26-2004, 04:34 AM

no, you're not running an 80shot. an 80shot would be more like .042nitrous/.23fuel. and yes you are running rich, maybe not pig rich like when the bottle press is down but still rich.

To see for yourself, here's a calculator i like to use:
http://www.robietherobot.com/NitrousJetCalculator.htm

Civic_RedLine · 12-26-2004, 01:16 PM

hmm.. what you talking about azcivic
I just did that calculating thing and it says im running 81.29 hp or 69.10 hp to the wheels.

Civic_RedLine · 12-26-2004, 01:21 PM

also, im not getting any more symptoms of richness. Before I would have to rev the shit out of my car in order to get the excess gas out after shooting nos. Before, my car would die if I dont rev it when car is off and turning on. Before, it didnt seem like enough nitrous. Now that I only spray at green, I feel 3x the power of before.

*AzCivic* · 12-26-2004, 02:13 PM

how does this say 80hp??
The Fuel jet size should be 0.017" or 0.443mm
A Nitrous jet size of .030" or 0.762mm should produce:
40.65 HP with 1 port(s)
Actual HP to the wheels: 34.55 HP

Your car doesnt have to run weird when its running rich, when I installed a 190lph fuel pump my fuel pressure went up about 4psi enough to drop my gas mileage by 4-5mpg. I was running rich, but the car didnt run weird at all.

Civic_RedLine · 12-26-2004, 02:17 PM

2 ports

Civic_RedLine · 12-26-2004, 02:21 PM

ill scan the fucking manual and prove to you that im running 80 shot.
If im running 40 shot go blame edelbrock. I just followed their instructions and provided materials.
From reading the manual over again for the 100th time. Im running 80 hp. It ma y not be 80 but can be 90 or even 70. Its pretty accruate though. Ill scan the manual today for you. There is nothing else I can do. Im using the highest setting of nitrous and highest setting of fuel. THis is what ed elbrock told me to run

*AzCivic* · 12-26-2004, 02:57 PM

you have one port. the nozzle that you attatched to your intake is the nozzle/port. the only reason you'd have 2 or more is if you were running somekind of dual stage setup, or a direct port setup.

please do scan that manual so I can see what your seeing.

Civic_RedLine · 12-26-2004, 03:34 PM

itll be up tonight. Cant scan the manual because its at my friends house. When ill go back, ill post up a picture taken with my digi cam.
then you'll see that Im right.

Its ok to be wrong........ sometimes...........

*AzCivic* · 12-26-2004, 04:04 PM

hold on. what kind of fuel press is run on the 2001 civics?

*AzCivic* · 12-26-2004, 04:11 PM

your oddball returnless style fuel system might be whats making your numbers different from the norm.

Civic_RedLine · 12-26-2004, 04:19 PM

no holes are drilled to the injectors. the kit came with a rubber hose that makes fuel run of the injectors through the solenoids. the only holes are in the intake rubber peice

thermal · 12-28-2004, 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AzCivic
thanks man, it means alot.

well deserved....

Civic_RedLine · 12-28-2004, 09:45 AM

how did you get 307 whp at 9 psi on acivic?
my friend has a turbo civic set at 10 psi and he still loses to my nos civic

*AzCivic* · 12-28-2004, 04:51 PM

its a teg w/ a type-r motor, not a civic.

Civic_RedLine · 12-28-2004, 05:07 PM

oh yeah btw. Its a zc motor with vtec head civic coupe with junkyard turbo set at 10psi. The motor is a 70 hp engine ithink,

*AzCivic* · 01-02-2005, 11:10 PM

so i've been doing some research on your "80 shot" and found what i think you're looking at:

which doesnt even have a jetting for an 80shot..

also here's what most normal kits call for jetting sizes:

notice how they all start in the .03x's?

I emailed edelbrock about this and its been several days and no response.

If you want to prove me wrong, go to a 1/4mile track and make a few runs off the nitrous and a few more on, and post up your results.

*AzCivic* · 01-02-2005, 11:27 PM

also notice how much the n2o jet jumps in size between hp levels.

oh and the charts are for the NOS, NX, and Zex kits-in that order.

Civic_RedLine · 01-03-2005, 01:31 AM

sorry forgot to scan the manual. Ill do it soon. Then you'll know. With your resources, I could believe you, over the manual.

Civic_RedLine · 01-24-2005, 11:43 PM

hey Az you there? sorry Ive been away for a while. My int ernet was down so I couldnt scan it. Ill scan it for you tomorrow to finally prove to you that edelbrocks is different.
thanks. I hope your still here.

*AzCivic* · 01-25-2005, 10:28 AM

i'm still here.

Civic_RedLine · 01-25-2005, 04:30 PM

here you go

*AzCivic* · 01-25-2005, 05:32 PM

dude i cannot read that.

Civic_RedLine · 01-25-2005, 08:23 PM

whats your e-mail. thats the only quality I can choose to post on this site. Th eres only one jet for 30 and its used for 80 shot. look!

*AzCivic* · 01-25-2005, 10:21 PM

sent ya a pm.

12-24-2004, 10:15 PM	#49
Civic_RedLine 3rd Gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 352	Im about 5 miles away from edelbrock. they already know me + The guy at edelbrock gave me his personal card. If anything goes wrong, edelbrock will replace for one year. ANyways, Im running hella good with 80 shots of nitrous. I love it!!!!!!!!! After first bottle, I now conserve the nitrous because being trigger happy wastes money. Mostly when nitrous doesnt need to be used. Blah, my engine is hella dirty. I need to clean the engine first before any other mod. Last edited by Civic_RedLine : 12-25-2004 at 01:00 AM.

12-25-2004, 11:44 PM	#54
thermal Banning Machine Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: My Garage, Va. Posts: 5,547	fuk man..... I wish I still have the "pull" that I used to have on this board. I would've gotten you the moderator spot here. Keep up the awesome job on nitrous tech AZciv........... __________________ Project Teg Visit the Turbo Forum

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12-24-2004, 04:14 PM	#48
AzCivic Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Az Age: 44 Posts: 3,804	looks good from what i can tell. i'd recommend zip tying the nitrous/fuel solenoids to something so they're not bouncing around while you drive, which might make the lines come undone.

12-25-2004, 01:12 AM	#50
AzCivic Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Az Age: 44 Posts: 3,804	what nitrous/fuel jets are you running? the actual # thats on the jets.

12-25-2004, 03:37 AM	#51
Civic_RedLine 3rd Gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 352	.030 for nitrous and .026 for fuel

12-25-2004, 03:41 AM	#52
Civic_RedLine 3rd Gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 352	Its fun to see a spec-v with intake and a prelude lose to a civic. I/H/E si is no match now. I raced my friends 04 tc stick shift. I gave him a head start and still burned him. Not that scion tcs have that much power, but it does have 32 more stock horse.

12-25-2004, 11:39 PM	#53
AzCivic Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Az Age: 44 Posts: 3,804	that nitrous jet is for the 40hp shot, not 80. which is GOOD, i was wondering how you were running around w/ an 80shot spraying all the time and not blowing your motor. that fuel jet is too big, which is why you are running rich. do you have a .017 or so jet?

12-26-2004, 01:01 AM	#55
AzCivic Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Az Age: 44 Posts: 3,804	thanks man, it means alot.

12-26-2004, 03:09 AM	#56
Civic_RedLine 3rd Gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 352	bleh. Only jetting sizes I got was .024 .025 .026 .026 .028 .030 I'm using the max which is 80 horse. BTW Edelbrock recomended me to start with 40 horse at first. But he also said, if I must run 80 go for it. All he said was, "DO NOT GO OVER 80 shots". The thing is, how can I when there is no more jets for this car. Im not running rich anymore. After I got the pressure gauge on, I only spray when the botth is around 12-14 which is in the yellow or greenish zone. That is when I run perfectly fine. Its better to use my nitrous on a regular sunny hot california day than a winter day. Which is why I cant wait til california gets hot. I always thought california weather was too hot, but found out thats its actually the best time to use my bottle.

12-26-2004, 04:34 AM	#57
AzCivic Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Az Age: 44 Posts: 3,804	no, you're not running an 80shot. an 80shot would be more like .042nitrous/.23fuel. and yes you are running rich, maybe not pig rich like when the bottle press is down but still rich. To see for yourself, here's a calculator i like to use: http://www.robietherobot.com/NitrousJetCalculator.htm

12-26-2004, 01:16 PM	#58
Civic_RedLine 3rd Gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 352	hmm.. what you talking about azcivic I just did that calculating thing and it says im running 81.29 hp or 69.10 hp to the wheels.

12-26-2004, 01:21 PM	#59
Civic_RedLine 3rd Gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 352	also, im not getting any more symptoms of richness. Before I would have to rev the shit out of my car in order to get the excess gas out after shooting nos. Before, my car would die if I dont rev it when car is off and turning on. Before, it didnt seem like enough nitrous. Now that I only spray at green, I feel 3x the power of before.

12-26-2004, 02:13 PM	#60
AzCivic Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Az Age: 44 Posts: 3,804	how does this say 80hp?? The Fuel jet size should be 0.017" or 0.443mm A Nitrous jet size of .030" or 0.762mm should produce: 40.65 HP with 1 port(s) Actual HP to the wheels: 34.55 HP Your car doesnt have to run weird when its running rich, when I installed a 190lph fuel pump my fuel pressure went up about 4psi enough to drop my gas mileage by 4-5mpg. I was running rich, but the car didnt run weird at all.

12-26-2004, 02:17 PM	#61
Civic_RedLine 3rd Gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 352	2 ports

12-26-2004, 02:21 PM	#62
Civic_RedLine 3rd Gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 352	ill scan the fucking manual and prove to you that im running 80 shot. If im running 40 shot go blame edelbrock. I just followed their instructions and provided materials. From reading the manual over again for the 100th time. Im running 80 hp. It ma y not be 80 but can be 90 or even 70. Its pretty accruate though. Ill scan the manual today for you. There is nothing else I can do. Im using the highest setting of nitrous and highest setting of fuel. THis is what ed elbrock told me to run

12-26-2004, 02:57 PM	#63
AzCivic Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Az Age: 44 Posts: 3,804	you have one port. the nozzle that you attatched to your intake is the nozzle/port. the only reason you'd have 2 or more is if you were running somekind of dual stage setup, or a direct port setup. please do scan that manual so I can see what your seeing.

12-26-2004, 03:34 PM	#64
Civic_RedLine 3rd Gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 352	itll be up tonight. Cant scan the manual because its at my friends house. When ill go back, ill post up a picture taken with my digi cam. then you'll see that Im right. Its ok to be wrong........ sometimes...........

12-26-2004, 04:04 PM	#65
AzCivic Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Az Age: 44 Posts: 3,804	hold on. what kind of fuel press is run on the 2001 civics?

12-26-2004, 04:11 PM	#66
AzCivic Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Az Age: 44 Posts: 3,804	your oddball returnless style fuel system might be whats making your numbers different from the norm.

12-26-2004, 04:19 PM	#67
Civic_RedLine 3rd Gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 352	no holes are drilled to the injectors. the kit came with a rubber hose that makes fuel run of the injectors through the solenoids. the only holes are in the intake rubber peice

12-28-2004, 09:45 AM	#69
Civic_RedLine 3rd Gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 352	how did you get 307 whp at 9 psi on acivic? my friend has a turbo civic set at 10 psi and he still loses to my nos civic

12-28-2004, 04:51 PM	#70
AzCivic Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Az Age: 44 Posts: 3,804	its a teg w/ a type-r motor, not a civic.

12-28-2004, 05:07 PM	#71
Civic_RedLine 3rd Gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 352	oh yeah btw. Its a zc motor with vtec head civic coupe with junkyard turbo set at 10psi. The motor is a 70 hp engine ithink,

01-02-2005, 11:10 PM	#72
AzCivic Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Az Age: 44 Posts: 3,804	so i've been doing some research on your "80 shot" and found what i think you're looking at: which doesnt even have a jetting for an 80shot.. also here's what most normal kits call for jetting sizes: notice how they all start in the .03x's? I emailed edelbrock about this and its been several days and no response. If you want to prove me wrong, go to a 1/4mile track and make a few runs off the nitrous and a few more on, and post up your results.

01-02-2005, 11:27 PM	#73
AzCivic Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Az Age: 44 Posts: 3,804	also notice how much the n2o jet jumps in size between hp levels. oh and the charts are for the NOS, NX, and Zex kits-in that order.

01-03-2005, 01:31 AM	#74
Civic_RedLine 3rd Gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 352	sorry forgot to scan the manual. Ill do it soon. Then you'll know. With your resources, I could believe you, over the manual.

01-24-2005, 11:43 PM	#75
Civic_RedLine 3rd Gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 352	hey Az you there? sorry Ive been away for a while. My int ernet was down so I couldnt scan it. Ill scan it for you tomorrow to finally prove to you that edelbrocks is different. thanks. I hope your still here.

01-25-2005, 10:28 AM	#76
AzCivic Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Az Age: 44 Posts: 3,804	i'm still here.

01-25-2005, 05:32 PM	#78
AzCivic Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Az Age: 44 Posts: 3,804	dude i cannot read that.

01-25-2005, 08:23 PM	#79
Civic_RedLine 3rd Gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 352	whats your e-mail. thats the only quality I can choose to post on this site. Th eres only one jet for 30 and its used for 80 shot. look!

01-25-2005, 10:21 PM	#80
AzCivic Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Az Age: 44 Posts: 3,804	sent ya a pm.