To all you hippies..

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Originally posted by SolPol
Steve, I'll assume you meant North Korea not South.

Good post by the way man.

Yeah...my bad...I was a little drunk when I wrote that (as per usual). And thanks BTW.

Kool-Aid...right here. I think our presence there goes only to insult the Iraqi people and to undermine their own responsibilities as a polity to determine their own destinies. Like SolPol's quote of Jefferson says (a summary, at least) it's the responsibility of the citizens of a given nation to decide their own goverment. I can't count how many times I've said that here. It's not our job to change their government for them any less than the opposite would be true. The first time we were there at least we had an excuse...we came in AFTER they invaded Kuwait. How good that excuse is can be debated, but at least we were sort of on a goodwill mission. The bottom line? It's extremely unethical to force our will upon another country half way across the globe when they are just as capable of effecting such change themselves if they wanted it bad enough. Nevertheless we're willing to throw our own men and women into harm's way and hypocritically shake our heads when they make the ultimate sacrifice. By that I don't mean that they deserved to die or that anyone should be happy in such a situation, but if you support a war you better be willing to accept death as part of it. If you're sick of seeing your friends and neighbors or even strangers come home in coffins then maybe it's time to re-examine your stance on this or any war. War isn't about who's right...it's about who's left.