The Eternal Boredom born debate.

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Originally posted by thermalfi'd16
Ninjas derived from Samurai's anyway. Ninjas are just the outcast. I read a couple of books about them. They are really not against each other. It just happened to be that, since Ninja's were trained to be assasins, most of the political figures back then were Samurai's, hence the Ninja VS Samurai issue. There is an old movie called Shogun's Ninja that "soemwhat" depicts the whole thing.

So what is the best Ninja movie any of you have seen? Mine is Ninja in the dragon's den....

Not sure where or what you read but...

Ninja and samurai are basically the same... BOTH are HIRED protection/enforcement...

In general the ninja's worked for shadier types who were not in power... while samurai were hired by political figures...

the whole social system prevented a samurai from holding a position of power... they are merely "strong arm" men...

Ninja's while technically were on the "fringe" of jap. society... were no less respected (besides by the samurai) then samurai.

Both were considered thugs for hire....

Some on BOTH sides were honorable... but in general they were both people willing to kill/mame others for food/money.

The samurai just had a more socially acceptable station in life... where the ninja where more hidden.

Check out "7 samurai"...

it's all about samurai and what they were REALLY about...

Any evil or good done by either can be blamed/attributed to their employers... Most were simply in it for the money/food.