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05-14-2003, 04:21 PM

ok... what car should I get.. I have aproximently 7,000 dollars.. I was thinking either a GTI vr6... Acura integra GSR... or a mitsubishi eclipse gsx or gst... please dont be bias towards the teg just cause its an acura.. I want the best for the money. Fastest and most upgradable. Please help.

ShEaNy · 05-14-2003, 04:31 PM

GSR.....i just like Honda/Acura over others

05-14-2003, 09:41 PM

for the money you could have lots of choices that would be faster thatn the cars on your list for the fastest on your list I would say GSX DSM, but than those carrs are known to have crankwalk, but all cars have their own problems, but If you know then you are better prepaired to face the issue.

05-14-2003, 09:43 PM

none

get a 240sx and mod the shit out of it.

05-14-2003, 10:25 PM

biker i knew that was coming haha

*pdiggitydogg* · 05-14-2003, 10:26 PM

gti are fun...but Id rather have the teg

Duckydos · 05-14-2003, 10:27 PM

If you can afford it, the GTI VR6, but that is easily the most expensive one out of the bunch. I've heard plenty of stories of GTI's running in the 13's with just a chip, downpipe, and intake.

If not the GTI, then go with the GSX. AWD and boosted, not a bad combo.

-Ducky

VR4_Craver · 05-14-2003, 10:44 PM

I like what biker said....maybe find a 300zx.....*cream*

TeriyakiBroccoli · 05-14-2003, 10:47 PM

biker... shh. our little sekret :\

Racing Rice · 05-15-2003, 07:35 AM

For $7000 I would say a first Gen Eclipse/Talon. Id go for AWD.

Id buy an older 5.0 and mod it... But thats me.:o

05-15-2003, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TeriyakiBroccoli
biker... shh. our little sekret :\

Yeah dude, don't tell too many people about those cars. They might become as popular as the civic then. And we don't want that to happen now do we!

Quote:

Originally posted by VR4_Craver
I like what biker said....maybe find a 300zx.....*cream*

You won't find a 300zx for that kind of money in good condition. At least I don't think you can.

05-15-2003, 09:46 AM

im also looking for the same thing in the 7,000 to 8,000 dollar range those are my options let me know what ya get so then i can make my decision.

O and what is a crank walk??

Racing Rice · 05-15-2003, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JamieS697
O and what is a crank walk??

http://www.angelfire.com/pa4/crankwalk/

nonovurbizniz · 05-15-2003, 10:37 AM

the crank walk issue is only with the 2nd gen dsm's... go 1st gen and they only have some few and far between head problems (my buddy replaced his 3 times all under warranty).

as far as the gti vr6... they're slow they do ok and all but the fact that vw had to put in a v6 to compete with NA 4 cyl is just sad.

The dsm is DEFINATELY the way to go if you want a cheap starter to put LOTS of money into right off the bat...

Make sure you know what your getting into though... start trolling the dsm boards and ask them for advice... nothing beats personal experience... which I believe non of us have with dsm's.

05-15-2003, 10:11 PM

ok... honestly I didnt understand a hole lot of that article that racing rice posted.. does .35 bearing wear do a lot?

THe 300 zx sounds cool but the insurance would be way too much. So it sounds like a mitsubishi eclipse is just right for me.
But which one? the AWD GSX.. or the RWD GST? If I get RWD will it get rid of the crank walk problem?
Would getting a new crankshaft fix it?
Also I heard that AWD eats up horsepower so would a RWD be faster? i know the AWD would handle better

P.S. I would really want a 2nd gen. They look a lot cooler than the older ones. a 94 or 95 sounds nice.

Racing Rice · 05-16-2003, 06:53 AM

First of all, do a search for "DSM crankwalk", there are about 6 million things out there about it.

Secondly, there is no such thing as a RWD eclipse from factory. All the RWD eclipses are AWD that have been converted to RWD. They only come in FWD and AWD.

Thirdly, just because an AWD isnt putting as much power to the ground, doesnt mean its not faster. With AWD you dont have to worry about traction problems. FWD turbo car will spin like crazy.
Get the AWD and learn how to launch properly. Its an entire new beast, it takes a little finesse. But once youve got it down, you will have nice runs.

Heres an example of AWD vs FWD:

I had 2 friends that owned DSMs. One was a 95 FWD Talon TSi and the other was a 96 Eclipse GSX (AWD). Both near stock. The GSX had a muffler and an intake. At the track the GSX ran a 14.90. While the TSI ran a 16 something. No, an intake and muffler will not make that kinda difference. The FWD Talon spun like crazy, while the AWD GSX stuck and went. See what I mean now? A better driver can get a FWD DSM into much lower times. But AWD will take the holeshot.

nonovurbizniz · 05-16-2003, 12:14 PM

I though the eagle tsi's were all awd. I thought only the mitsu came in fwd turbo...

Racing Rice · 05-16-2003, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nonovurbizniz
I though the eagle tsi's were all awd. I thought only the mitsu came in fwd turbo...

Nope.. There is a TSI and a TSI AWD.

nonovurbizniz · 05-16-2003, 12:22 PM

I did not know that.

05-14-2003, 04:21 PM	#1
tegsRus Posts: n/a	What car should I get? ok... what car should I get.. I have aproximently 7,000 dollars.. I was thinking either a GTI vr6... Acura integra GSR... or a mitsubishi eclipse gsx or gst... please dont be bias towards the teg just cause its an acura.. I want the best for the money. Fastest and most upgradable. Please help.

05-14-2003, 10:27 PM	#7
Duckydos Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Orlando, FL Age: 41 Posts: 1,048	If you can afford it, the GTI VR6, but that is easily the most expensive one out of the bunch. I've heard plenty of stories of GTI's running in the 13's with just a chip, downpipe, and intake. If not the GTI, then go with the GSX. AWD and boosted, not a bad combo. -Ducky __________________ Had an Accord. Then I had something European. Now I have an SCCA Solo-II monster!

05-14-2003, 10:44 PM	#8
VR4_Craver Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The stixx Age: 39 Posts: 1,550	I like what biker said....maybe find a 300zx.....cream __________________ me from another forum (im the top geekz0r) the geekz0r (11:03:46 PM): basicly, look at it this way...the 6speed is the same is the 5speed in 2,3,4,5,and 6...only the speeds are different because of the fd the geekz0r (11:04:16 PM): so 2nd pulls like 1st in the 5speed, 3rd is like 2nd, etc. PortugeeTex (11:04:26 PM): so whats 1st like then? the geekz0r (11:04:49 PM): 1st is like hitting a cheeta in the ass with a tazer PortugeeTex (11:04:53 PM): lmfao

05-14-2003, 10:47 PM	#9
TeriyakiBroccoli 5th Gear Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Orange County, Southern California Age: 39 Posts: 1,490	biker... shh. our little sekret :\ __________________ everyone loves the turbizzim.

05-15-2003, 07:35 AM	#10
Racing Rice Project Combat Honda Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Highland,OH Age: 46 Posts: 7,985	For $7000 I would say a first Gen Eclipse/Talon. Id go for AWD. Id buy an older 5.0 and mod it... But thats me.:o __________________ Racing Rice

05-14-2003, 04:31 PM	#2
ShEaNy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB Age: 41 Posts: 3,821	GSR.....i just like Honda/Acura over others

05-14-2003, 09:41 PM	#3
keystone Posts: n/a	for the money you could have lots of choices that would be faster thatn the cars on your list for the fastest on your list I would say GSX DSM, but than those carrs are known to have crankwalk, but all cars have their own problems, but If you know then you are better prepaired to face the issue.

05-14-2003, 09:43 PM	#4
mt.biker Posts: n/a	none get a 240sx and mod the shit out of it.

05-14-2003, 10:25 PM	#5
zm_dawg Posts: n/a	biker i knew that was coming haha

05-14-2003, 10:26 PM	#6
pdiggitydogg Yahoo Watashi wa kattaze! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Meanwhile, up in The D... Age: 42 Posts: 10,579	gti are fun...but Id rather have the teg

05-15-2003, 09:46 AM	#12
JamieS697 Posts: n/a	im also looking for the same thing in the 7,000 to 8,000 dollar range those are my options let me know what ya get so then i can make my decision. O and what is a crank walk??

05-15-2003, 10:37 AM	#14
nonovurbizniz Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: ECUSA Age: 48 Posts: 2,693	the crank walk issue is only with the 2nd gen dsm's... go 1st gen and they only have some few and far between head problems (my buddy replaced his 3 times all under warranty). as far as the gti vr6... they're slow they do ok and all but the fact that vw had to put in a v6 to compete with NA 4 cyl is just sad. The dsm is DEFINATELY the way to go if you want a cheap starter to put LOTS of money into right off the bat... Make sure you know what your getting into though... start trolling the dsm boards and ask them for advice... nothing beats personal experience... which I believe non of us have with dsm's. __________________ I am an A$$hole... take anything I say to heart at YOUR OWN RISK...

05-15-2003, 10:11 PM	#15
tegsRus Posts: n/a	ok... honestly I didnt understand a hole lot of that article that racing rice posted.. does .35 bearing wear do a lot? THe 300 zx sounds cool but the insurance would be way too much. So it sounds like a mitsubishi eclipse is just right for me. But which one? the AWD GSX.. or the RWD GST? If I get RWD will it get rid of the crank walk problem? Would getting a new crankshaft fix it? Also I heard that AWD eats up horsepower so would a RWD be faster? i know the AWD would handle better P.S. I would really want a 2nd gen. They look a lot cooler than the older ones. a 94 or 95 sounds nice.

05-16-2003, 06:53 AM	#16
Racing Rice Project Combat Honda Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Highland,OH Age: 46 Posts: 7,985	First of all, do a search for "DSM crankwalk", there are about 6 million things out there about it. Secondly, there is no such thing as a RWD eclipse from factory. All the RWD eclipses are AWD that have been converted to RWD. They only come in FWD and AWD. Thirdly, just because an AWD isnt putting as much power to the ground, doesnt mean its not faster. With AWD you dont have to worry about traction problems. FWD turbo car will spin like crazy. Get the AWD and learn how to launch properly. Its an entire new beast, it takes a little finesse. But once youve got it down, you will have nice runs. Heres an example of AWD vs FWD: I had 2 friends that owned DSMs. One was a 95 FWD Talon TSi and the other was a 96 Eclipse GSX (AWD). Both near stock. The GSX had a muffler and an intake. At the track the GSX ran a 14.90. While the TSI ran a 16 something. No, an intake and muffler will not make that kinda difference. The FWD Talon spun like crazy, while the AWD GSX stuck and went. See what I mean now? A better driver can get a FWD DSM into much lower times. But AWD will take the holeshot. __________________ Racing Rice

05-16-2003, 12:14 PM	#17
nonovurbizniz Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: ECUSA Age: 48 Posts: 2,693	I though the eagle tsi's were all awd. I thought only the mitsu came in fwd turbo... __________________ I am an A$$hole... take anything I say to heart at YOUR OWN RISK...

05-16-2003, 12:22 PM	#19
nonovurbizniz Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: ECUSA Age: 48 Posts: 2,693	I did not know that. __________________ I am an A$$hole... take anything I say to heart at YOUR OWN RISK...

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