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02-19-2003, 03:26 AM
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Favorite style of music?
Alright, so let's hear it. What type of stuff do you guys listen to? And if you're one of those people who always says "a little bit of everything", think again. I've worked part time at music stores for the past 6 years and NOBODY listens to all types of music. My CD's mostly consist of metal, emo, punk, downbeat electronica (like DJ Shadow), a small amount of classical (only if it's written in a minor key), hip hop, and a little abstract jazz (like the Miles Davis "Bitches Brew" sessions).
Note: For anyone who was thinking about saying "rap", think again. Technically rap is not a form of music. Music must meet 3 criteria...harmony, rythym, and melody. Hip hop usually has these qualities but rap does not. If you need a decoder ring to tell the difference, here's some help Rap: Eminem Ludacris 50 Cent Jay Z P Diddy or whatever the hell he decides to call himself next week etc. Hip hop: Blackalicious Latryx Jurassic 5 MC Paul Barman Run DMC etc. If you can't tell the difference you don't deserve to own a stereo
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02-19-2003, 04:31 AM
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This was posted yesterday I think, but it got buried.
http://www.hondastyle.com/forums/sho...threadid=12681 Your def right about the hip-hop/Rap thing...It gets to me when people categorize it all as Rap. its like when people use the term "techno" for all Dance music. |
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02-19-2003, 05:57 AM
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Damn...I'm glad someone knows what's up. The next person who tells me that Eminem is a hip hop artist will definitely be shot in the face. The guy's got skills and can flip words well but calling him a hip hop artist definitely sullies the good name "hip hop". Where the hell were you people when KRS-One came up with 16 ball ryhme style?
I also know what you mean by all people calling electronica techno. I'm currently logging a few hours a week at a Borders store in KC that was voted to have the best selection of electronica in the city. It was cool to be recognized as I helped build up the electronica section but then we got all these kids who just wanted Paul Oakenfold and Fatboy Slim. Not to be a music snob, but there are artists out there who are infinitely better and define their generes better than those two homos. If you want to group everything like goa, hardcore, trance, downbeat, tablatronic, esoteric, and ambient into the category of "techno" then you should be lined up with the folks who think Eminem is a hip hop artists to save me some time on my aim. Personally, I love hip hop. Groups like Blackalicious and compilations like "Solesides" have definitely musically influenced me. But at the same time I think rap is total trash. To quote the equally worthless Greg Allman, "rap is short for crap". It's also sad that true hip hop acts will continue to struggle while acts that appeal to the lowest common denominator (I'm talking to the 50 cent fans here) will continue to sell through the roof. You should all be ashamed of yourselves for sponsoring a worthless and meaningless form of "expression" and maybe it's time you realize it for what it is...a chance for these dicks to glorify their own egos and make pointlessly catchy songs for you to dance to in clubs. Real music will rarely be played in clubs because it rarely catters to the lowest common denominator.
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02-19-2003, 06:15 AM
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techno, rave, industrial, euro dance and euro pop, metal, punk, the pera transposed to techno, and pretty much anything that has a very fast beat to it.
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02-19-2003, 07:57 AM
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you are all going to hate me......country girl at heart here , but i also listen to just about anything but eminem. (i truly hat ehim and his lyrics)
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02-19-2003, 08:20 AM
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well apparently I have absolutely NO taste in "music" because I like yep get this RAP and hip hop, and r&b, and pop/top 40, and classical, and country, and house, and techno, and classic rock, and "punk", and well just about anything. It might not be what I would typically choose to listen to...but if it's playing I'll listen to it cuz I have an open mind to what other people choose to listen to and who knows....I might end up really liking it. But yes I'm a 50 cent, Jay-Z, Ludacris, Busta Rhyms, Missy Elliot etc etc fan. And if that means I don't know what music is...then so be it...but at least I'm enjoying what I'm listening to.
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02-19-2003, 09:06 AM
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oldschool punk and less known punk bands
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02-19-2003, 11:22 AM
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why must you trash what other people enjoy? i like 50 cent and em and so on.... i wouldnt trash someone for the type of music that they like. theres always a struggle...so what?? im sure many great vocalists, rockers, jazz musician dont make it, so is there a reason to trash the ones that do make it just because someone who you thought was worthy doesnt? |
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02-19-2003, 11:30 AM
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i like some old school punk and some new stuff. Rancid is my favorite band right now and i just bought a NOFX cd (45 or 46 songs that weren't good enough to go on our other records). But yeah i mainly like punk rock. Even though i try to consider myself open to most all types, since along with that NOFX cd i also bought the Queens of the Stone Age cd
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02-19-2003, 11:35 AM
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I agree with firstgeardude here. Everyone listens to what he or she wants just like every one picks the car they like and choose what they like in a girl. Just because you like everything organzied and be taken serious doesn't mean every other person has to. You like music with more meaning to it while others just listen to the catchy beat, so what? Who's stopping you from listening to what you want, no one. And if someone is, they are making the same mistake as you are. Why don't people just all get along and accept that the fact that we are all different and are still somewhat unique is what makes life interesting. If everyone listened and took music as serious as you did, this place (Earth) would be boring. Each person gets from music what he is missing in life or what he likes and wants to get from life.
If you want to know what I listen to, I listen to rap, r&b, a little hip hop and a few songs here and there from other genres. Like if I hear a good song on the radio that's classical, or pop or alternative or anything else for that matter that catches my interest, I'll listen to it. |
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02-19-2003, 12:53 PM
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I've been getting into a bit of downtempo and acid jazz lately.
The Thunderball and Desmond Williams albums from Eighteenth Street Lounge are really good too. Preview here: http://www.eslmusic.com/artists/artists.html |
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02-19-2003, 01:15 PM
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Primarily, I guess hardcore and emo. I've gotten really into that the past year. I don't know. I guess I went through a rough time and that's what I related to and it stuck. I like punk also. And sometimes, I get into the rap and hip hop too on the occasion.
SHOT 2 HELL, I'm going to see Queens of the Stone Age on 3/26. Not that anyone cares but I'm seeing Breaking Benjamin this Fri. |
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02-19-2003, 02:47 PM
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First thing.....I'm hoping you don't like the these less known punkbands because they are less known. Thats one thing I got a problem with and don't understand...how all these hardcore punk fans love good charlotte but wont say a thing when they get on MTV....thats what show business is about... Secondly, Rap isnt crap....some rap is crap some isn't.....most of ja rule songs are well crap and don't know where they go exactly...i bought the 50 cent cd and there's a lot of good cuts on it...if you actually listen to it and let it paint a picture well he's been through shit you'll never see. Jay Z also has a lot of good songs......Eminem....hate'em if you want...his lyrics are his thoughts...he came into the industry doing somethin noones ever seen before..he sells cause it's catchy adn still poppy where they can get it playin in clubs. Anywho....i listen to some rap (Jay Z, Bone), Hip Hop (The Roots, Talib Kweli, Aesop Rock, J5 and everyone else), DMB, Rusted Root, The Big Wu, Grateful Dead...String Cheese Incident...all of it |
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02-19-2003, 03:17 PM
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I like some rap...most of the timei can't stand hip hop...
I'm a HUGE fan of eminem, nas, and 2pac...and lately i've been getting into techno...i don't really know the categories of techno are...
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02-19-2003, 03:53 PM
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i never liked good charlotte, i liked cheshire cat and some of dude ranch(blink albums) but ever since enema of the state there style twisted and i didnt like it anymore. i almost dont even know what to call my music i like anymore, the word "punk" is now used to describe avril lavine, new found glory, and good charlotte. bands i feel strongly are not punk music. i liked rancid durring their mtv carear when out ... and come the wolves came out, and i love them still today. i said lesser known bands cause if i list off the names, its gonna be either names you've kinda herd something about them maybe once(haha.. that is gonig to be hard to follow) i like skapunk also, i grew up on LTJ playing in my home town for $3 or $4 a show, when losers kings and things we dont understand came out, and pezcore. its not that i hate mtv bands, its just i dont like their style of music, and i dont like there message in the songs. i dont like just "underground" music because its not herd of, i actualy HATE emo. it is guys crying about something... the music has no energy, and no power. i go to emo shows and feel safer in the center of the main floor than i do off in a corner at a hardcore or punk show. im also getting into some hardcore, i love the music, but the voices kinda get repetative to me. if you want me to name bands i like.. you can see not all are "punk" but every one of the bands i feel sings from the heart and has a unique style to them. NOFX Rancid Anti-flag Propagandhi AAA slapstick Lagwagon Bad Religion Flogging molly ramones dead kenedys some(very little) crass Dropkick murphys Avail 7 seconds the casualties older green day stuff (1039 smooth out slappy hours, kerplunk, and basketcase) Downfall(good luck finding ANYTHING on them pre-rancid, post-op ivy) good ridance lars fredriksen and the bastards link 80 h2o ten foot poll hi-standard some of the bouncing souls stuff some unwritten law the suicide machines operation ivy common rider sublime pennywise millencolin(one of the few pop-punk bands i like) me first and the gimme gimmies(they are just funny)
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02-19-2003, 04:20 PM
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right on..i understand...i really don't get to much into mtv...but i know their are a few punk bands around here and it's anti mtv bands that just made their breakthrough...i saw'em wear the tshirts until the day they came on TRL..then they sold out...don't even wnat to get into that...if you expect a band to not make the money they're able to...you don't have their best interests in heart.
but yeah...i'm just basically hip hop and rap...forgot all bout nas and tupac biggie...thats rap...this ja rule...and some of ludacris...it just gets way to poppy..i like hearing about life issues..kinda end up seein what they've been through, why they are who they are. Hip hop though.....talib kweli, mos def, common, roots....j5..i can't get it any better....it's just the beat along with the intelligence throughout the messages....but then i have my laid back party/hippie mode....GD and the big wu, rusted root....and depression/sad....DMB, john mayer....i don't know... |
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02-19-2003, 06:43 PM
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Kenny Chesney Travis Tritt Terri Clark Montgomery Gentry etc. Oldies: the temptations etc. Linkin park-what catagory are they in? |
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02-20-2003, 03:21 AM
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First of all, this isn't about good taste or bad taste. Like the old saying goes, there's no accounting for taste. All I'm saying is that rap isn't technically music. Old school hip hop was cool because it was new. It was basically just stories that ryhmed with a beat. Then there was all the splintered forms of hip hop like the aforementioned 16 ball ryhme style and hip hop reggae. But then comes rap. It takes an enormously lesser amount of talent to produce a rap song. No, I don't want to hear about how many people you've killed or what kind of car you roll in or how much you gots in you teef. If you're not trying to convey anything rather than the fact that you want me to buy your album or dance to your shitty song in a club then you're a waste of perfectly good space and you're breathing up all of our air. I'm not trying to tell you what to like or to dictate what "good taste" is, but I can tell you definitively what music isn't. Right now I'm listening to Nick Drake, but next on my playlist is No Use For A Name, then NOFX, then Onelinedrawing, then Latryx, then Blackalicious, then Bad Religion, Then Downthesun, then Atreyu, then Today Is the Day, then some Run DMC. True musical diversity isn't simply accepting whatever MTV or the radio throws at you because it's got a good hook as you seem so ready to do. It's about realizing what MAKES those forms of music and individual songs different and acknowledging those difference. And hey, I feel free to "trash" what other people like if it is, in fact, trash. I'm just saying that you shouldn't ever support the glorification of someone's ego simply for commercial gain. Do you really car if 50 Cent rolls in a Bentley with 20" Daytons? Probably not. So why listen to him talk about it. I'm not by any means whatsoever against hip hop or the culture. The very first tape I ever bought was Run DMC's "Raising Hell" and I DJ hip hop at parties now and then. That's why it pisses me off so much that the above mentioned artists have perversed the hip hop culture and turned into one that many view as violent and self serving. And can you blame them? Eminem's got a song talking about taking his little daughter with him to dump his wife in a ****in lake. I'm all about letting people say what they want in any forum they want, but it's up to you to know that such statements reflect on what kind of human being you are and if that's what you wanna sing about then you're a piece of shit. Sorry...that's just the way it goes. There's a little something called tact and rap doesn't have any.
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02-20-2003, 07:49 AM
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wow gt, that was to the point.
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02-20-2003, 08:05 AM
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I just want to comment about MTV. "Music television" Anyone remember back in the day when they used to play music videos all the time? I find that the majority of the time if I'm flipping through the channels and I stop on MTV that there's some bullshit on. Like Todd Oldham redecorating some room for that candy ass from 98 degrees and his wife. And for those of you that are into 98 degrees, I'm not trying to make a personal attack or anything. Just merely stating my opinion. Everyone is different and obviously everyone likes different things. Anyway, I'm getting off topic from what I was trying to say. I just think MTV sucks. And if they are playing videos and there's a commercial break, there's about 10 minutes in commercials.
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02-20-2003, 08:10 AM
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Yeah the MTV in us is totally bull. go to europe and watch mtv. you really don't need a DJ for a party. There almost no shows on, only music videos and music news, and variety all the time, not hip hop, R&B and c-RAP the whole time.
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02-20-2003, 11:16 AM
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I've never been fortunate enough to go over seas. I've never even been on a plane. They do have MTV2 here. I don't have it but I know people that do and from what I hear, there's more music. |
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02-20-2003, 11:21 AM
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the college televsionb network they play here on campus has less played music(and over played too) but its about 85%-90% mucis, with some real world news updates in it too
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02-20-2003, 11:47 AM
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Yeah, that's cool though about the "real" news updates though. Where on MTV a breaking news flash is about how Michael Jackson's nose is falling off or something. Or about how Fred Durst and Brittany hung out.
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02-20-2003, 12:25 PM
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I've been saying that for three years or so...There are never any videos on anymore. Just garbage. I don't watch much TV anyway. My TVs are stuck on ESPN. ESPN is the greatest network ever created. At least they still show sports... |
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02-20-2003, 12:28 PM
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You should work for the Billboards, or VH1 or Something, They do such a good job classifying music...Rap and hip hop are like Steak and Beef...It comes from the da SAME Sh!t. o'yeah, EMINEM is a hip hop artist/producer/Movie Star/Baby's Daddy/Crazy White Boy/slash/double slash//whateverelse you say he is not. |
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02-20-2003, 12:44 PM
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Yeah, TV is really not that good. On the occasion I'll watch it here and there. But anyhwho...We can ***** all we want because they're never change that for the better. They'll just get worse. With all the $ that they rake in for airing all those commercials, I think they can pretty much do what they want. |
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02-20-2003, 04:48 PM
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trash all you want... theres only one word to describe people like you.... "hater" |
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02-20-2003, 11:29 PM
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"True musical diversity isn't simply accepting whatever MTV or the radio throws at you because it's got a good hook as you seem so ready to do."
Now i'm so ready to accept whatever the media throws at me? In my last post I said I don't accept much of MTV. GT....calm.....please....I know you've worked in these music stores and noone can listen to everything, but realistically some people can. If rap isn't music...what is it? Dont say thugs b***in about this and that...put a noun to it...like perhaps music. I also want you to define the 3 criteria's you mentioned. All music is is entertainment...every form of it comes down to entertainment. Why does Eminem say or sing the things he does....thats who he is and what he's gone through and those are his thoughts and it's through his music that he expresses it. 50 Cent...has been around for a longtime....not like mainstream like he is now..but isn't that everyones dream, to make the money. If they weren't in it for money why every produce a cd and put it out to sell. 50 Cent also puts his thoughts and past history into his songs, it's called expression. People hate eminem for sayin this or that gays or whatever. It's his freedom to say it and your freedom to listen. It doesn't make anyone less of a person for having there own opinions....personally...I like some of eminem and some of it isn't so appealing...if it's just some good hook that doesn't go into who the person is or doesn't pertain to his history i don't get to into it. You listen to Tupac, Nas, Biggie, Jay Z....any of these "rappers" and tell me you don't get somethin out of it, some truth of the life they've led or gone through growing up. This appeals to me much more then hearing every punk song bangin this and that...and crying over another breakup..how many girlfriends have broken up with'em...sure there are a few good ones...but tell me a band that hasn't put out a song or a few on the same disc...that involves breaking up or getting dumped. All in all..rap is music...3 criterias or what? Workin in a music store doesn't mean you have an up on the rest of the world knowing what music is music...delete the word music and it's all just entertainment...everyone gets somethin out of it different from the next. |
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02-21-2003, 09:28 AM
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"music" to me is completely different than what everybody else considers music. I can pretty much garuntee that there isn't a single person in the world that likes and hates every single song that I do. My music professor a couple semesters back opened the class by throwing a piece of the chalk against the chalkboard and asked us if it was "musical". Of course we thought he was nuts and said no. But he said to him it was. By throwing multiple pieces against the board at certain times creates a rhythm....the basis of all music. Just because you don't wanna hear people singing/rapping about what car they drive, what they wear, who they shot, what their life is like, how much they have rolled up in their "teef"...then don't listen to it. You have the power to listen to whatever you want to listen to. But it doesn't give you the right to say that those people have no talent...cuz apparently people think they have talent otherwise they would have never gotten a record deal nor would people listen to their "music". No one talked sh!t about what you choose to listen to...so don't talk sh!t about what some of the rest of us choose to listen to. Some of us choose to listen to it for it's sheer entertainment value (ie...a catchy hook that we can dance to at a club)....rather than to analize how many bpm it has or anything else that music should contain.
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02-21-2003, 09:35 AM
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Racid, Voodoo Glow Skulls, Anti-Flag, Propaghandi... but yeah music isnt all the same so i say listen to what you like and like what you listen to |
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02-21-2003, 03:05 PM
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almost every bad i really like dosnt write songs about crying about girls. thats emo, not punk, that crys
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02-21-2003, 07:34 PM
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emo is like...overdramatic depressed people from what i know of.
But Blink...Sum41....simple plan...good charlotte....there's girls are throughout it not a big deal...just not my niche..... As above like anti flag and those are a lot of political and life issues which are cool to listen to...but whatev...i'm done with this. |
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