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*ChrisCantSkate* · 11-25-2002, 08:35 PM

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?threadid=532034

read this.. my whole emotions tonight went from

to

if you participate in street racing you MUST read this..... it puts things in reality for those who dont realize how fast things can happen

11-25-2002, 09:03 PM

Tonight was one of the most shocking nights I have ever had. Some of you may know I'm a volunteer firefighter. I don't get to ride in the cool fire-truck, I'm stuck driving a 99 F-250 "Emergency Response Team" truck (carries the other diver and I and all of the medical/diving/fire/EMS equipment). Anyway we were on our way back from a small kitchen fire when we got behind a semi ricey Eclipse GS-X a pretty ricey Accord V6 and a Camaro RS (this is on a 4 lane road). Now the ****ers had been racing each other light to light and swerving past all slower traffic. So once we got behind them we were going to radio in their plates but before we could the light turned green and off they went.

About maybe a quarter mile ahead was a mini-van (Dodge I beleive) that had turned the way they were going. The Accord in the far right lane was being blocked by the mini van so decided to cut off on the shoulder and attempt to pass the van. Well the rumble strip sort of pulled the car further to the right more the he expected I guess and he cut back left throwing himself infront of the mini-van and Camaro. The 3 racers had to be doing about 80 by now, but the Accord went sideways into the van and then continued on into the Camaro and then into the cement median doing 83 (what the spedo was stuck at we later found). The van ended up rolling because it tried to cut and miss the accord as it hit it.

When we got up to the scene I almost lost my dinner. I've seen gun shot victims, scraped people off railraod tracks, you name it I've probably seen it but this I just couldn't handle. I ran to the Accord first to see what was there. The driver went through the windshield and into the cement median, what was left of his skull was now somewhere compounded into his shoulders and the median. The passanger was a very beautiful girl about my age (19) whos arm was compound fractured beyond physical recognition, and ears were bleeding like crazy. No seat belt either. (Airbags were both removed because of the momo wheel and "engine management consol" on the passanger side) She had some apparent head injury from the windsheild and was either uncounsious or dead. Nothing I could really do in that car at the time.

I ran over to the Camaro to see what was up there. The guy maye 25 or so was ok. Had his seat belt on and everything. I jsut screamed at him to stay in the car until te cops came.

Off in the distance the ****ing Eclipse didn't even stop to see what happened. He fled a fast as his car could go.

Just as I noticed the eclipse, my partner who radio'ed for help and then ran over to van screamed "Chris get the **** over here". This is where I almost lost it. The van on its side held a mother and 2 children, none which were responsive. I crawled into the middle window where I thought the yougest child was. She had to be maybe 4 at the oldest. No seat belt. Was thrown into the window when it rolled then into the pavement I would have imagined. Her head had a rather obvious dent in it BUT she was breathing. I pulled her through the window.

In the passanger seat was a younger boy maybe 10 whos arm was crushed under the tipped over van. It later had to be amputated but he will live do the the 7 minutes of CPR that we did.

The mother was the only one with her seat belt on, the airbag broke her nose and somehow knocker her out. But she is fine. Was concious by the time we got her son breathing again.

The ****er in the Camaro got cuffed and taken away. The girl in the Accord was airlifted away. The young girl in the van later died tonight/this morning from massive head trauma. The driver of the accord obviously died of the same. The boy in the van will live as well, just one arm short.

Sorry about the bad grammer, I'm still in shock. I doubt I'll get much sleep tonight.

But for you assholes that like to pull this shit on occupied roads please PLEASE PLEASE take it to the track. Save your life and someone elses. I'm done ranting now. For those that read this, thanks.

94_AcCoRd_EX · 11-25-2002, 09:03 PM

That's a very sad story. Keep it on the track, or at least don't race where there are other people on the road.

11-25-2002, 09:04 PM

dude after reading that, i'm questioning my speeding.

*ChrisCantSkate* · 11-25-2002, 09:17 PM

yeah, i gave up street racing about 4-5 months ago, and i only did it seldomly on open roads when i did which was less that one race a week, this jsut re-enforced my decision ten times over

ebpda9 · 11-25-2002, 09:19 PM

that is a sad story. i only occasionally streetrace, but now i'm gonna think twice before flooring it

blind34_1 · 11-25-2002, 09:44 PM

I've never done anything that stupid. Now I definately never will.
That is a terrible story.

Kyle · 11-25-2002, 09:46 PM

11-25-2002, 09:57 PM

damn im really sorry to hear that you had to see that but im even more sorry for that mother and children who weren't doing anything wrong...just going wherever they were going and got into the accident because some assholes want to drive around like dicks....sorry about my language but it really makes me mad to hear that people drive around like maniacs and cause injuries to other people as well as take thier own lives...I know how it feels to almost lose someone b/c i almost lost my sister because some assholes wanted to cut her off and make her crash head on into a taxi...

a96710 · 11-25-2002, 09:57 PM

That is so sad...cause people were dumb and careless

Rob · 11-25-2002, 10:34 PM

damn...as I was reading that I got chills that ran down my spine....I've done some street racing since I got back to the states and I've questioned myself everytime that I've done it but after reading this, I'm done. I have a 3 yr. old daughter and I couldn't imagine what I would do if she lost her life or a body part do to someone like me trying to show off....thanks for sharing this Chris....

Man, I fill sick now........

11-25-2002, 10:47 PM

What can you say to that....... the only thing i can think of is pride is not worth your life.... so if you keep reacing after reading this then at least let the persone go when you get in trafic or a possable bad situation, that is what i do. let them talk all they want because when it comes down to it you can race another day...

mylittlecivic · 11-25-2002, 10:58 PM

ive seen so many of those stories and theyre absolutely horrible i cant believe the nerve of some people

*ChrisCantSkate* · 11-26-2002, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by blind34_1
I've never done anything that stupid. Now I definately never will.
That is a terrible story.

you havnt, and you may never do anything that stupid, but the guys in the GSX and camaro didnt either. the accord guy caused the whole thing. they didnt see the van when they started out, but look how it ended. they probobly thought it was a clear open road to gun it at. if you goto that board, and read the posts the guy who wrote the thread made, you can see the aftereffects of this story. the guy in the camaro is looking at 5-20 years minimum for the incedent, and they have yet to charge the guy in the GSX, but its going to be more because he left the scene. i really have alot of emotions going through me, because some of my freinds get caught up un the moment alot, and honestly i dont deal well with loosing someone. believe me, they are all getting this artical.

BTW im glad to see i might have changed a few peoples minds on street racing. these guys could have just been coming home from the gas station, or going to a movie, and did a little race for fun, and look how it turned out. its scary to think how quickly your life can end/be changed forever. go to the track guys. its more fun than any street race. you can race, have a good time, talk to people, learn stuff, see what other people run, compair it to your times, try to beat your best times.... its alot better than seeing who's got the bigger sack and go faster longer.

11-26-2002, 01:33 AM

Wow ... I just reached my first 100 mph ever 2 days ago and it felt so scary going that fast. I told myself I was never going to do that again. Now that I read this story, I will never try to attempt to hit 100 mph again.

Spazum888 · 11-26-2002, 01:47 AM

wow... thats some crazy s.

man...

11-26-2002, 10:15 AM

Thanks for posting that, biker.

*ChrisCantSkate* · 11-26-2002, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mushroom
Thanks for posting that, biker.

um... i posted it, he just copyed the text over. theres alot more in the thread about peoples reactions, and the aftermath of what the parent of the children went through. one of the children died, one had their arm amputated. no word on the girl in the accord, the guy in the accord died no impart, the guy in the camaro is sitting in jail, they caught the guy in the GSX, and the mother might get ticketed for not having her children in seat belts

*AzCivic* · 11-26-2002, 10:29 AM

So if everyone would've had their seatbelts on, it would have just been minor injuries?

Rob · 11-26-2002, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AzCivic
So if everyone would've had their seatbelts on, it would have just been minor injuries?

who knows? At that speed somebody was gonna get hurt either way.......

11-26-2002, 11:00 AM

hmm, thats a good reason not to pass on the shoulder

*AzCivic* · 11-26-2002, 11:04 AM

It just seems there's 2 lessons to be learned, dont race in traffic and wear your damn seatbelt. From what i read everyone who had their seatbelt on came out relativley ok.

Rob · 11-26-2002, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AzCivic
and wear your damn seatbelt.

good call...mine goes on everytime I get in the car........

11-26-2002, 11:13 AM

Car manufactures need to keep making the cars with the seatbelts that automatically go on you when you get in...keeps you safe all the time and you dont have to worry about forgetting about it....i dunno if they are as safe as the other ones tho
Very sad story indeed...More inocent lives lost cause of morons...and the eclipse guy should rot in hell for speeding off...coward

*KwikR6* · 11-26-2002, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ChrisCantSkate

BTW im glad to see i might have changed a few peoples minds on street racing. these guys could have just been coming home from the gas station, or going to a movie, and did a little race for fun, and look how it turned out. its scary to think how quickly your life can end/be changed forever. go to the track guys. its more fun than any street race. you can race, have a good time, talk to people, learn stuff, see what other people run, compair it to your times, try to beat your best times.... its alot better than seeing who's got the bigger sack and go faster longer.

Yeah man for sure...Racing on the track is soooo much fun...I love it....i raced on the track a few months ago....and since then..haven't raced on the streets!!!
Save it for the track...BELIEVE ME!!! it's way more fun anyway...I love it.....i can't wait for next season...oh Chris...thanks for sharing..

11-26-2002, 01:38 PM

this is a very sad story, i think that it would have been a good thing for the young immature racers that think they are untouchable to be at and see what really happens, as for the automatic seatbelts, i dont think that those would last long, i mean look at how people remove their other saftey devices such as AIRBAGS, they would figure a way to disconnect the belts and then do it. JMO.

11-26-2002, 07:25 PM

its true, those automatic seatbelts can always be taken off so Its not like people are always going to wear them...I dont understand for the life of me why the guy in the accord didnt have his seatbelt on...I mean if u know your going to be driving fast then just put it on...It could have saved his life...

94_AcCoRd_EX · 11-26-2002, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AccordinStyle
good call...mine goes on everytime I get in the car........

I never drive anywhere without mine.

*ChrisCantSkate* · 11-27-2002, 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 94_AcCoRd_EX
I never drive anywhere without mine.

if not for my safty, i cant stand the beep when i turn the car on to remind me and the red light on my dash. mines always on

11-27-2002, 12:08 PM

Yup, my seatbelts are ALWAYS on and I make everyone wear one!

ShEaNy · 11-27-2002, 12:35 PM

^^

sad shit...

guywithastang · 11-27-2002, 12:44 PM

Kinda puts things in perspective. It really helps me to see how bad it is. I have alwase wanted to build a track in my area on some of my land. Wish I knew how to go about doing

. Eny onne care to donate to the north east Iowa race track fund

11-25-2002, 08:35 PM	#1
ChrisCantSkate Thought Police Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: orlando florida Age: 41 Posts: 9,662	very sad story about street racing... http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?threadid=532034 read this.. my whole emotions tonight went from to if you participate in street racing you MUST read this..... it puts things in reality for those who dont realize how fast things can happen __________________ Black Vtec Prelude-h22a power'd Many dreams come true, and some have silver linings. I live for my dreams and a pocket full of gold.

11-25-2002, 09:03 PM	#3
94_AcCoRd_EX Insomniac Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: OR Age: 44 Posts: 11,142	That's a very sad story. Keep it on the track, or at least don't race where there are other people on the road. __________________ 1994 Accord EX coupe --Need hosting for your pics on HST? PM me...--

11-25-2002, 09:17 PM	#5
ChrisCantSkate Thought Police Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: orlando florida Age: 41 Posts: 9,662	yeah, i gave up street racing about 4-5 months ago, and i only did it seldomly on open roads when i did which was less that one race a week, this jsut re-enforced my decision ten times over __________________ Black Vtec Prelude-h22a power'd Many dreams come true, and some have silver linings. I live for my dreams and a pocket full of gold.

11-25-2002, 09:19 PM	#6
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 44 Posts: 17,266	that is a sad story. i only occasionally streetrace, but now i'm gonna think twice before flooring it __________________

11-25-2002, 09:46 PM	#8
Kyle elyK Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: New Braunfels, TX Age: 39 Posts: 3,390	__________________ IGNORE THE FACTS EXPLORE THE TRUTH

11-25-2002, 09:03 PM	#2
mt.biker Posts: n/a	Tonight was one of the most shocking nights I have ever had. Some of you may know I'm a volunteer firefighter. I don't get to ride in the cool fire-truck, I'm stuck driving a 99 F-250 "Emergency Response Team" truck (carries the other diver and I and all of the medical/diving/fire/EMS equipment). Anyway we were on our way back from a small kitchen fire when we got behind a semi ricey Eclipse GS-X a pretty ricey Accord V6 and a Camaro RS (this is on a 4 lane road). Now the **ers had been racing each other light to light and swerving past all slower traffic. So once we got behind them we were going to radio in their plates but before we could the light turned green and off they went. About maybe a quarter mile ahead was a mini-van (Dodge I beleive) that had turned the way they were going. The Accord in the far right lane was being blocked by the mini van so decided to cut off on the shoulder and attempt to pass the van. Well the rumble strip sort of pulled the car further to the right more the he expected I guess and he cut back left throwing himself infront of the mini-van and Camaro. The 3 racers had to be doing about 80 by now, but the Accord went sideways into the van and then continued on into the Camaro and then into the cement median doing 83 (what the spedo was stuck at we later found). The van ended up rolling because it tried to cut and miss the accord as it hit it. When we got up to the scene I almost lost my dinner. I've seen gun shot victims, scraped people off railraod tracks, you name it I've probably seen it but this I just couldn't handle. I ran to the Accord first to see what was there. The driver went through the windshield and into the cement median, what was left of his skull was now somewhere compounded into his shoulders and the median. The passanger was a very beautiful girl about my age (19) whos arm was compound fractured beyond physical recognition, and ears were bleeding like crazy. No seat belt either. (Airbags were both removed because of the momo wheel and "engine management consol" on the passanger side) She had some apparent head injury from the windsheild and was either uncounsious or dead. Nothing I could really do in that car at the time. I ran over to the Camaro to see what was up there. The guy maye 25 or so was ok. Had his seat belt on and everything. I jsut screamed at him to stay in the car until te cops came. Off in the distance the ing Eclipse didn't even stop to see what happened. He fled a fast as his car could go. Just as I noticed the eclipse, my partner who radio'ed for help and then ran over to van screamed "Chris get the over here". This is where I almost lost it. The van on its side held a mother and 2 children, none which were responsive. I crawled into the middle window where I thought the yougest child was. She had to be maybe 4 at the oldest. No seat belt. Was thrown into the window when it rolled then into the pavement I would have imagined. Her head had a rather obvious dent in it BUT she was breathing. I pulled her through the window. In the passanger seat was a younger boy maybe 10 whos arm was crushed under the tipped over van. It later had to be amputated but he will live do the the 7 minutes of CPR that we did. The mother was the only one with her seat belt on, the airbag broke her nose and somehow knocker her out. But she is fine. Was concious by the time we got her son breathing again. The **er in the Camaro got cuffed and taken away. The girl in the Accord was airlifted away. The young girl in the van later died tonight/this morning from massive head trauma. The driver of the accord obviously died of the same. The boy in the van will live as well, just one arm short. Sorry about the bad grammer, I'm still in shock. I doubt I'll get much sleep tonight. But for you assholes that like to pull this shit on occupied roads please PLEASE PLEASE take it to the track. Save your life and someone elses. I'm done ranting now. For those that read this, thanks.

11-25-2002, 09:04 PM	#4
mt.biker Posts: n/a	dude after reading that, i'm questioning my speeding.

11-25-2002, 09:44 PM	#7
blind34_1 Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: IL Age: 41 Posts: 1,813	I've never done anything that stupid. Now I definately never will. That is a terrible story.

11-25-2002, 09:57 PM	#9
RU_Teg Posts: n/a	damn im really sorry to hear that you had to see that but im even more sorry for that mother and children who weren't doing anything wrong...just going wherever they were going and got into the accident because some assholes want to drive around like dicks....sorry about my language but it really makes me mad to hear that people drive around like maniacs and cause injuries to other people as well as take thier own lives...I know how it feels to almost lose someone b/c i almost lost my sister because some assholes wanted to cut her off and make her crash head on into a taxi...

11-25-2002, 09:57 PM	#10
a96710 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Vancouver, Wa Age: 44 Posts: 1,454	That is so sad...cause people were dumb and careless

11-25-2002, 10:47 PM	#12
SofaKingSmooth Posts: n/a	What can you say to that....... the only thing i can think of is pride is not worth your life.... so if you keep reacing after reading this then at least let the persone go when you get in trafic or a possable bad situation, that is what i do. let them talk all they want because when it comes down to it you can race another day...

11-26-2002, 01:33 AM	#15
accord98lx Posts: n/a	Wow ... I just reached my first 100 mph ever 2 days ago and it felt so scary going that fast. I told myself I was never going to do that again. Now that I read this story, I will never try to attempt to hit 100 mph again.

11-26-2002, 01:47 AM	#16
Spazum888 3rd Gear Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Orlando Age: 43 Posts: 550	wow... thats some crazy s. man... __________________ Girls are like internet domain names, the ones I like are already taken. well, you can stil get one from a strange country :-P

11-26-2002, 10:15 AM	#17
Mushroom Posts: n/a	Thanks for posting that, biker.

11-26-2002, 10:29 AM	#19
AzCivic Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Az Age: 44 Posts: 3,804	So if everyone would've had their seatbelts on, it would have just been minor injuries?

11-26-2002, 11:00 AM	#21
OPAKRACING Posts: n/a	hmm, thats a good reason not to pass on the shoulder

11-26-2002, 11:04 AM	#22
AzCivic Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Az Age: 44 Posts: 3,804	It just seems there's 2 lessons to be learned, dont race in traffic and wear your damn seatbelt. From what i read everyone who had their seatbelt on came out relativley ok.

11-26-2002, 11:13 AM	#24
Jeebs Posts: n/a	Car manufactures need to keep making the cars with the seatbelts that automatically go on you when you get in...keeps you safe all the time and you dont have to worry about forgetting about it....i dunno if they are as safe as the other ones tho Very sad story indeed...More inocent lives lost cause of morons...and the eclipse guy should rot in hell for speeding off...coward

11-26-2002, 01:38 PM	#26
custom rookie Posts: n/a	this is a very sad story, i think that it would have been a good thing for the young immature racers that think they are untouchable to be at and see what really happens, as for the automatic seatbelts, i dont think that those would last long, i mean look at how people remove their other saftey devices such as AIRBAGS, they would figure a way to disconnect the belts and then do it. JMO.

11-26-2002, 07:25 PM	#27
RU_Teg Posts: n/a	its true, those automatic seatbelts can always be taken off so Its not like people are always going to wear them...I dont understand for the life of me why the guy in the accord didnt have his seatbelt on...I mean if u know your going to be driving fast then just put it on...It could have saved his life...

11-27-2002, 12:08 PM	#30
juvenile Posts: n/a	Yup, my seatbelts are ALWAYS on and I make everyone wear one!

11-27-2002, 12:35 PM	#31
ShEaNy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB Age: 41 Posts: 3,821	^^ sad shit...

11-27-2002, 12:44 PM	#32
guywithastang Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: some corn field in Iowa Age: 44 Posts: 337	Kinda puts things in perspective. It really helps me to see how bad it is. I have alwase wanted to build a track in my area on some of my land. Wish I knew how to go about doing . Eny onne care to donate to the north east Iowa race track fund __________________ thats not bad, for a honda You say VTEC, I say V-8

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