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Kyle
10-25-2002, 08:26 PM
I've been looking on www.airforce.com lately and i know that i wanna do something that has to do with flying..
I was looking around, and i found this...
Aircraft Loadmaster Apprentice
As a Loadmaster Apprentice, you will perform your duties during extensive trips to all areas of the world. You will be responsible for supervising the loading and unloading of cargo, vehicles and people on the airplane.

Your duties will include mathematically preplanning the correct placement of the load on the airplane, providing passenger comfort and safety, securing cargo and taking part in airdrop operations.

You will be on flying status as an Aircrew member and required to fly with the aircraft.

This sounds like something i could do well...does anyone know anything about this position...like requirements for it...or some other stuff like that...
pay doesn't really matter for me...I just wanna know what the requirements are...how long you work at a time...places to get to fly to...stuff like that...
Any help is appreciated.

slowEJ6
10-25-2002, 09:06 PM
you got the site, contact them and ask :yes:

Kyle
10-25-2002, 09:19 PM
pfft...contacting is so overrated....
i dunno...there are people already in the AF here...so i thought i'd try and see if i could get some info from some HS members first...
Then i'll contact them...recruiters suck...lol

V8killimports
10-25-2002, 09:57 PM
Originally posted by Mobbo
pfft...contacting is so overrated....
i dunno...there are people already in the AF here...so i thought i'd try and see if i could get some info from some HS members first...
Then i'll contact them...recruiters suck...lol

Mobbo I deal with loadmasters everyday.. I don't know exactly what their job entails, but I have a decent idea. As a load master (depending on the airframe) you will fly low level. There are generally C17s, C130s (which I am on), and C141s which are pretty much dying or dead. If you are prone to motion sickness it will be hard to adjust to because low level flight is rough. Depending on the type of load for the airdrop (container delivery system, heavy equipment, training bundle, or troopers) you have to show up a certain amount of time before the mission starts (typically 1-4 hours), then fly a 4-6 hour mission. They are long days... you fly about 3 times a week, and those days work out to be 12-14 hour days at least. Your training would be here at Little Rock AFB, and I would suggest calling here and talking to someone about what the training entails.

Kyle
10-25-2002, 09:59 PM
Originally posted by V8killimports
Mobbo I deal with loadmasters everyday.. I don't know exactly what their job entails, but I have a decent idea. As a load master (depending on the airframe) you will fly low level. There are generally C17s, C130s (which I am on), and C141s which are pretty much dying or dead. If you are prone to motion sickness it will be hard to adjust to because low level flight is rough. Depending on the type of load for the airdrop (container delivery system, heavy equipment, training bundle, or troopers) you have to show up a certain amount of time before the mission starts (typically 1-4 hours), then fly a 4-6 hour mission. They are long days... you fly about 3 times a week, and those days work out to be 12-14 hour days at least. Your training would be here at Little Rock AFB, and I would suggest calling here and talking to someone about what the training entails.
Alright...sounds good...and whats the dif between flying high and low...
And i don't get motion sickness or anything...

Kyle
10-25-2002, 10:43 PM
Anymore info/advice?
HOOK ME UP!

AzCivic
10-26-2002, 12:05 AM
I'm pretty sure a loadmaster works on high flying and low flying cargo planes. If you decide to settle down with a wife that job is probably going to suck, since you're flying around all the time, probably also true if you want to do some college.

Kyle
10-26-2002, 12:14 AM
Originally posted by AzCivic
I'm pretty sure a loadmaster works on high flying and low flying cargo planes. If you decide to settle down with a wife that job is probably going to suck, since you're flying around all the time, probably also true if you want to do some college.
I don't think i'm husband material:crazy:
And, i don't plan on going to college...
I've also got another question.
My dad was in the army for 25 years...
And he said that when he was serving, The army was the only service that guarentees where you will be working...
like...when you sign up, you know exactly what you'll be training for and where.
Is it still this way...i don't wanna get screwed. I Don't wanna go into the AF to do one thing...but then end up doing another...

V8killimports
10-26-2002, 12:47 AM
Loadmasters are also on C5.. forgot that one.. and yes there are high level platforms.. even if you don't get motion sick, you WILL hurl in the back of a 130 at 300 feet AGL. I would suggest a C5 maybe.. I forget if they even do low level.. I think they would be all high level, and that would rock.. only problem is they can fit a lot of shit.. you will be working hard loading that thing. Same with the C17.

Kyle
10-26-2002, 12:49 AM
So do you know what you'll be training for and where you'll be working when you sign on?
kind of a big issue...

AzCivic
10-26-2002, 01:15 AM
I think now the AF is the only ones who will guaruntee what you'll do. But I know they do it, thats how i went in.

Kyle
10-26-2002, 01:17 AM
Alright, thats good to hear:yes:
I just don't wanna go into something blind.

AzCivic
10-26-2002, 01:21 AM
Just dont go in "open general" then they'll stick you where they need you.

Kyle
10-26-2002, 01:23 AM
Well, if i do end up going in the AF i wanna be a loadmaster...none of the other jobs really seemed appealing to me...
And what exactly is "Open General"?

AzCivic
10-26-2002, 01:28 AM
Its basically saying you dont have a definite job and they'll let you make a list of jobs you like in basic training and if they need people in one of them then you'll go into it. More than likely they'll just stick you where the AF needs you. All you need to know is DON'T DO IT! NO MATTER WHAT ANY RECRUITER SAYS!

Kyle
10-26-2002, 01:31 AM
Yeah, i would never do that...
My dad also said something about being a loadmaster in the army(He's biased towards Army). But i know the living conditions are a lot worse in the army than the AF...i just wanted to make sure i would be guarenteed training where iwanted it before i made the decision to sign on the dotted line...

AzCivic
10-26-2002, 01:35 AM
you'd be gauranteed training in what job you wanted, but the school is wherever its at, you cant choose where you are trained only what you're trained in.

Kyle
10-26-2002, 01:36 AM
i don't care where i train...
my dad just said something about how they put you wherever they want to or something...As long as i train in the job i specify.

V8killimports
10-26-2002, 01:40 AM
Have you looked into intel? Survival Instructor? PJ? There are lots of cool jobs out there people don't know about...

Kyle
10-26-2002, 01:43 AM
There may be cool jobs and stuff....and i'd love to do them...but i'm really not cut out for them...
whats PJ though...don't know what that is...And i pretty much just wanna do something that has to do with flying...
I love anything that has to do with flying...

Rob
10-26-2002, 01:47 AM
Originally posted by Mobbo
My dad was in the army for 25 years...
And he said that when he was serving, The army was the only service that guarentees where you will be working...
like...when you sign up, you know exactly what you'll be training for and where.


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Kyle
10-26-2002, 01:48 AM
which part of that are you raising the bs flag for?...

Rob
10-26-2002, 01:52 AM
Originally posted by Mobbo
which part of that are you raising the bs flag for?...
the part about the Army being the only service that guarantees where you will be working.....

Kyle
10-26-2002, 01:53 AM
Well he said thats how it was during that time...(during vietnam)
That probably clarifies it a lil' more...

Kyle
10-26-2002, 01:54 AM
He also said he isn't sure how it is now...
he's been out for like 10 years...


anyway...i gotta sleep...peace out...

Rob
10-26-2002, 02:00 AM
Originally posted by Mobbo
Well he said thats how it was during that time...(during vietnam)
That probably clarifies it a lil' more...
oh, o.k.....I thought he meant now...anyway, I'll holla atcha later.

Peace,
Rob

V8killimports
10-26-2002, 10:05 AM
"we guarantee you will have whatever job you want in vietnam"

And Mobbo, PJs are the special forces of special forces. Nothing compares not even SEALS. Harder to be a PJ than a SEAL. You could be a combat controller....TAC P is a lot of fun I heard. TAC P calls in a lot of air strike stuff too.. similar to forward batle controllers. Just look into lots of stuff. Flying is fun, somtimes at least... but they are really hellacious days. Not trying to steer you clear of flying, but it's just not the stuff you se in the movies. Flying will be the most anal retentive part of the service.