...and the rebuild commences...

[thermal]

I just got off the phone with a few friends. I got a killer deal on AEBS sleeves + bore + hone. I might be driving down to North Carolina to RLZ performance this weekend. I had to get a loan for this crap tho :no:. I should be getting a set of pistons/rods also. Here's my wish list:
-84mm flat dish pistons Wiseco
-Manley/Full-race rods
-AEBS sleeves
-Precision 1000cc injectors
-AEM C2di
-Boostfed FPR
-Golden Eagle fuel rail
-LoveFab SST equal length manifold
-Precission SC61 turbo
-3 bar map sesnor
-Turbonetics/Spearco half radiator

I'm gonna reassemble everything together myself. Goal is to hit 500-550 whp.

[JDMFantasy2k]

shouldn't you run a bigger hairdryer if you want hp numbers like that? I figured a t3/t4 hybrid would be better suited, no?

How streetable is it gonna be once you're done? it's gonna be sick:yes:

[thermal]

My T3T04e 57t/.63 AR is not big enough. A T3/60-1 and Precission SC61 is way bigger man. It's gonna be streetable no doubt.

BTW: My friend has a maxrev manifold he wants to sell. Let me know if you want it and for how much. He pretty much just wants to get rid of it. Let me know man....

[mcruz]

just to ask what car are you going to put that in

[JDMFantasy2k]

Originally posted by thermalfi'd16


BTW: My friend has a maxrev manifold he wants to sell. Let me know if you want it and for how much. He pretty much just wants to get rid of it. Let me know man....

VERY VERY INTERESTED

i can't find them anywhere for a good deal, i remember seeing one on ebay (i believe it was azcivic's friend) but i forgot when it ended and missed it.

Ask him how much he wants for it and what his methods of payment are because i need that manifold! thanks arnel.

[AzCivic]

DAMN! you're gonna need drag radials for street tires, and a good set of slicks for the track. are you gonna be able to keep A/C? Good luck on your sick ass setup!

[thermal]

JDM, I'll tell my friend about the manifold.

Az, I never had A/C on my Teg. It's just that my Fluidyne radiator is a full size, so to compensate for that, I had to use an A/C compatible turbo manifold. now I'm gonna get rid of the full size and deal with a half size dual core in order to get an equal lenght turbo manifold and a biger turbo.....

[AzCivic]

I see. do you drag race much? i'd think w/ the ITR gearing and that much power you'd be well into 5th gear by the end of the 1/4.

[thermal]

I do give that sort of impression to people.... As long as I have been doing this, I havent been on the track as a driver. My kills are on the streets and not very proud to say that neither... I just cant stand it when I get bullied on the road. However I dont drive and huntdown a "kill". I just enjoy the acceleration when I need to use it. Next season will be different tho. i will go to track and see what this Teg can do. Gotta get off the streets. I have been lucky so far..... street racing is so dumb.

oh yeah, i dont have an ITR tranny. I'm using a B16A2 tranny with a quaife LSD and ITR flywheel. :cool:

[AzCivic]

yeah no one can just not race on the street ever, thats where its most fun.

you should go to the track before and after this build to compare.

[thermal]

Originally posted by AzCivic
yeah no one can just not race on the street ever, thats where its most fun.

you should go to the track before and after this build to compare.

He he he..... I tried going to the track but my third gear went from a minor grind to a point where I couldnt get it in gear....

[JDMFantasy2k]

yo therm, runnin a half size radiator isn't gonna fuck up your water temps? i figure if you're running power figures like those you'd need all the cooling you can get...

[AzCivic]

i'm sure its twice as thick

[thermal]

JDM, your right but the half radiator I'm looking at it going to be thicker like AZ mentioned.

[Grip72]

omfg you guys know alot about cars...

thermal..how did you learn SO Much?

[AkimboStylee]

stay around long enough and you will learn alot

[thermal]

Originally posted by Grip72
omfg you guys know alot about cars...

thermal..how did you learn SO Much?
I've been modifying my car since I bought my civic in '99. Hondas are not the fastest cars on the streets so I've been constantly looking around to improve its power. I have always been more interested in making more power than "looks". It just so happens that I've done extended research on boosted Hondas. Other than that, it's really a neverending "thing". I do know some stuff but i still meet muthafuka's on the streets who I think knows more stuff than me... lol......:yes:

[pdiggitydogg]

"always a bigger fish"

[Sivik]

wow thermal... i've been missing for a while and look what your doing. i need you to give me the hookup from your hookup. i'm actually serious too cuz i'm tired of my d-series... too slow for me now. my b-series project didn't go over the summer but now it looks like it will be going soon. so we need to talk about some parts please sir. other than that... good luck with your stuff!

[thermal]

I'll see what I can do. I'm just lucky because most of my good friends are sponsored by decent people like Omni, RLZ, and Rocket. These same friends are also direct dealers of their sponsors and they hook me up with "cost" price. Believe it or not, Honda-Tech has some cheap stuff. I have the last of the 10 LoveFab SST and only cost me $720 shipped with external WG flange. LoveFab SST no longer will be produce as of 30Sep04...

[thermal]

My target date of completion has been moved back a couple of months. I have a girl that I care for alot and she will be leaving for 3 months starting early Feb.... gotta have some quality time. (It's weird how a woman can change things on a man's life all of a sudden...lol... ). This means that I wont be able to play with my Teg a whole lot. I have about 65% of the parts I needed to hit 500whp. Just a few more little things but a lot of time under the hood, which I know I cant have right now.

My block is sleeved already by way of Darton 84mm bore. It is getting ready to be honed to match my Wiseco ceramic coated side pistons, 9.8:1 compression. I now have an AEM C2Di ignition ready to be installed. My LoveFab SST manifold is enroute. I got a free CRYO2 intercooler spray system.... of course, filled with N2O instead. A precission SC61 is ready for duty but waiting for the manifold. ARP head studs are already in my garage. JG/Edelbrock intake manifold is waiting to be installed as well....

I still need to fabricate a 3 inch DP and get my tranny synchro fixed.

I'll be ordering these in a few weeks:
-Manley/Full Race connecting rods
-Half size dual core aluminum radiator
-Crank bearings
-1000cc injectors
-custom head gasket
-Aeromotive FPR
-GE fuel rail
-Fuel supply lines
-more small stuff

I'll post pics when I get my PC working again. I really miss my Teg. But it's okay tho. By next race season I should be ready.

If any of you live close by, let me know. I have friends here who can hook you up with bad ass parts for great deals. 2 of my good friends run/own a shop. One of them has a dyno. Peace!

[ShEaNy]

man...i wanna turbo my car now lol..screw the charger...hook a brother up:P i wouldnt know the first thing to building my internals...like i know what a piston and rod is ... but WHAT kind ... NO IDea what to buy...good luck on the project..WE want PICS.:)

[thermal]

Hondaman-iac has some info on turbo accords. www.homemadeturbo.com/forum has a sticky on junkyard turbo style turbo accords.

It's not really that hard to put a system together especially on Honda/Acura. Internal mods are only required when you plan to hit bigger numbers. On daily low boost, you should be okay for stock internals.... but you'll get used to it soon tho. You'll want "more". :cool:

[ShEaNy]

turboing an automatic ok?? should i do anything to the tranny?

[thermal]

Nothing wrong with turbo auto, as long as the turbo is not too big. A tranny cooler would help....

[ShEaNy]

sweet thanks..ill look into more later...

[thermal]

Christmas is amking my funds tight. I cant even get my computer fixed so I can post some pictures of the block before I start playing with it. I really miss my Teg. The trunk right now is acting as my christmas present hiding spot.....

[thermal]

Update:

Fucking RLZ Engineering is starting to piss me off. I hope they find their way here and see this post.

Here's the story:
Early October, I decided to jump in an unbeatable deal that my buddy offered me through RLZ Engineering. This will be a complete sleeving of my JDM B18C ITR block (Darton 84mm) and bore/hone to the specs of a set of Wiseco flat dish pistons with a target of 9.5:1 to 9.8-1 compression. They were supposed to provide those services and parts shipped for a total of $1440. It's a very decent deal.

Reason to be pissed off number 1:
After my friend dropped off my block to them, I wrote and sent a check for the amount I mentioned, dated Oct 9 2004. With the check, I also included contact information in case problems arise. The note also contained the "deal" the I was going for including specs..... 84mm Darton sleeves, 9.5:1 or 9.8:1 flat dish turbo pistons, etc.... They said that they have to wait for the check to clear before they start the work on my motor. 3 weeks later the check was still not cleared. I started getting worried because I wasnt comfortable having that much money hung up in my account plus the thought of a possible lost mail is getting to me. It finally cleared 4 weeks after I sent it. So the work really didnt start until 4 weeks after I sent the money....whatever...

Reason to be pissed off number 2:
I was originally told that the turn around day was 2-3 weeks since I was going through a friend who knows them. It didnt happen as you can see since they held my check for about 4 weeks. I got over that issue tho since I was out to sea for 6 weeks anyway. I figure that the block would be ready when I get back.... I was wrong. It took another 3 weeks :pukey.

Reason to be pissed off number 3:
So my block reached Va Beach, but not my house. It went to my buddy's shop. I was fine with that. i told my buddy to go ahead open the box. The block was fine, however the pistons were rated 8.1:1 and dished like a mutha'. My buddy said that he will contact RLZ and figure out WTF?

Reason to be pissed off number 4:
RLZ gave my buddy a run around and finally they said that Wiseco does not sell the pistons I asked for. However they can custom make one with the specs I wanted. For an additonal $300, RLZ will take care of it. I was pissed the fuk off!

The whole time my buddy who originally made this deal with me has been talking to them. I havent even talked to anybody over there yet. This buddy of mine is a very reputable guy on this scene. He has been trying to handle everything but RLZ is not cooperating. I'm really about to jump into this whole fuk up.

Now all I'm asking for is my money back on the amount I paid for the pistons and the honing service that has nothing to do with the pistons specs that I wanted. They know for a fact that I didnt asked for those 8.1:1 pistons, since the invoice shows it. However they are still not cooperating.

So sorry for the long post. Sorry no pictures yet. i just had to rant about these issues.....:bandit:

[Mischief]

I do believe it is time to bust a cap.

[pdiggitydogg]

Oh man, Id roll up there myself and take care of business instantly.
I can understand that people make mistakes, but then to go do the run-around bs is just disrespect.

[thermal]

I'm really to the point where I dont even want to modify shit anymore. I thought about just buying an Acura MDX and call it quits.

[thermal]

B18C-R
-AEBS Sleeves
-84mm bore

[thermal]

on the stand

[dabouncerx24]

So you changed your mind huh? :yes:
Good stuff

You'll have to help me when I turbo my LS :cool:

[thermal]

not entirely. i just need to stay on the right path....

[Sivik]

holy shit thermal, every time i come back you always have something new. well so do i!

buddy of mine is swapping in a JDM H22 in his teg... and guess what... i get his motor! hehe, so now i have the motor, just need a good set of pistons and rods for a small bottom end build. then looking at a t3/4e 57 trim turbo. aiming for about 350whp on pump gas. what ar you think would be good? i would like to put 400 whp on C16 so i need some extra "mmph" in the turbo.

also, you have any experience with uberdata? i like what it does and i like the price... hehe.

are you going to upgrade you axles at all to handle this power or keep stock? what do you think your spool times will be like?

man your crazy... i might have to go get a loan too... hehe.

[thermal]

Bro get an SC61 instead or a 60 trim at a minimum. If not a T3/60-1 should satisfy you all the way up to 600whp. 350whp is only around the corner man. It's so easy to hit that shit. You'll want more anyway so you should get a bigger turbo. I'm keeping the axles stock. if it break then I'll replace it. Uberdata is great. You just gotta find a tuner who can tune it.....

[Sivik]

im learning how to use it now, and my buddy has tuned standalones before so he knows the basics... all we need it a wideband and we're set!

im actually replanning my project now. i don't know if im going to go with a full build anymore. maybe just a bolt on kit with stock internals. i'm looking to sell my car and get something NEW and FASTER. Hello Evo...

but i like the 57 trim for spool up. in ls motors an SC61 will take forever to spool (4500-5000 from what i hear) whereas the smaller 57 trim will hit at 4k.

[thermal]

I see what you mean....

[thermal]

I hate fucking hold-ups.... I just realized that my wiseco pistons didnt come with wrist pin C clips.....:mad:

Well, I painted my block and head. Will post some pics later....

[thermal]

back side

[thermal]

front side

wut ya think about the paint job :cool:

[thermal]

head milled. Taken off 20 thousandths

[thermal]

misc

[thermal]

more

[thermal]

I may have to redo the piping tho

[thermal]

Put this to use

[JDMFantasy2k]

wow, i think i just ejaculated. Arnel that engine is going to be so, so sick.

hey sivik how you making out with uberdata? I'm going to switch to uber come end of summer or next year. I just got my laptop and i've been fooling around with uber.

[thermal]

I will take more pics later with the Lovefab SST (last one Cody made). Dont be fooled with the cryo system. That thing is filled up with N2O instead. I will not spray the motor, but i will spray the intercooler. Got it for free :yes:.

I'm waiting for my friend's ring file so i can file fit the top and bottom ring. Then I will install the pistons, head, and the rest of the bottom end. I have a lot of work to do. I lost my IAT sensor and I realized that the throttle cable is getting ready to snap. I gotta take care of those too. Not to mention installing my brake booster and steel braided brake line. Dang, I also need to take off my brake rotors to install the extended wheel studs.

The teg is going to the body shop this week. I'm undecided to either go Mustang Electric Green or Volvo Gold.....

[ShEaNy]

Gold would be so bling...lol that puppy would shineee :yes:

[ShEaNy]

i forgot to put..that engine paint job looks mint man...good job..:yes:

[thermal]

Thanks. Once I get the tranny back from the shop, I will paint it the same color :yes:

[ChrisCantSkate]

your making me want to rebuild the h22 i have sitting in my friends garage

[IALuder]

you should. or sell it to me after you rebuild it.:yes:

[thermal]

rebuild it dude. it is so much fun man.

[ChrisCantSkate]

im gonna yank the head off and possibly shave it down, and get a little head work done, 3 angle valve job and a little pnp probobly. then depending on how the block looks i'll go from there.

[ShEaNy]

awesome...then u sell it to me:):rolleyes:

[thermal]

As much as possible, do the work yourself. You can PnP that yourself using dremmel gadgets. I did a Y8 before and it spooled my friend's turbo so much quicker.

[Sivik]

Originally posted by JDMFantasy2k

hey sivik how you making out with uberdata? I'm going to switch to uber come end of summer or next year. I just got my laptop and i've been fooling around with uber.

i'm doing good... i haven't installed it yet on my car cuz im waiting to do my swap, well waiting for my friend to swap his new motor in and i get his LS. its really easy to learn how to use Uber. a lot of it is self-explanitory. just gotta understand a/f's and duty cycles for injectors and you should be fine.

but i ran into another fork in the road... i'm tempted to sell the honda and get something faster - either Evo MR or 350z... not a big STI fan. i was really close to doing it but a friend of mine is selling her 91 240sx for dirt, im mean dirt cheap. i'm tempted to buy that, along with an S14 silvia motor, bigger turbo... hello drifter/race car. too many decisions... not enough money.

thermal... looks f'n sweet. can't wait to see numbers and perhaps a few videos if you can muster that up.

[thermal]

Thanks Sivik!

[thermal]

SPECS:
-JDM B18c-R
-AEBS sleeved 84mm bored, honed, and decked
-Wiseco 84mm ceramic coated pistons
-Manley/Full Race rods
-ACL bearings
-Stock JDM ITR head milled 20 thousandths to target compression 9.1:1
-Spoon cam gears
-AEBS head studs
-Cometic head gasket
-Spearco/Turbonetics half size dual core aluminum radiator
-Slim fan 14 inch 1200 CFM radiator fan

Turbo Stuff:
-Garrett GT35R .82 a/r S-cover watercooled
-LoveFab SST turbo manifold. Last batch made by Cody Loveland
-Tuner Toys oil feed/return line
-Tial race BOV
-Tial 44mm WG
-Precision 750hp Intercooler
-GReddy oil filter block adapter
-Thermal R&D 3 inch exhaust system (no cat-converter)
-DMH 3 inch flow tech exhaust cut-out
-JG/Edelbrock intake manifold
-CRYO2 intercooler spray (filled with N2O... I will never use CO2)
-Hondata intake manifold heat shield (gasket)
-Mustang 75mm throttle body and TPS recalibrated via AEM EMS
-Ford IACV recalibrated via AEM EMS
-Custom 3 inch downpipe by me, V-band ordered
-Custom dump tube by me
-Custom catch-can by me

Elecetronics/gauges:
-GReddy 60mm electronic peak/hold A/F ratio gauge
-GReddy 60mm electronic peak/hold EGT gauge
-GReddy 60mm oil temperature gauge
-GReddy 60mm mechanical boost pressure gague
-GReddy 52mm electronic fuel pressure gauge
-GReddy 52mm electronic oil pressure gauge
-GReddy turbo timer
-GM boost solenoid
-AEM UEGO wideband

Fuel Management:
-AEM EMS
-Precision 1000cc peak/hold fuel injectors
-Boostfed racing adjustable fuel pressure regulator
-Fast Turbo steel braided fuel lines
-Golden Eagle fuel rail (1st gen)
-Custom liquid filled fuel pressure gauge
-Walbro 255LPH intank fuel pump (high pressure)
-AEM Twin-Fire ignition (AEM C2di and MSD Pro billet dizzy with ICM/BlasterSC... back-up)
-AEM 5 BAR MAP sensor
-Honda CBR coil-on-plug conversion

Transmission:
-B16 tranny
-Del Sol shifter
-Quaife LSD
-Gear Speed synchro
-Exedy Twin disk

Suspension/Braking:
-Omni-POWER USA fully adjustable strut/spring
-Omni-POWER USA adjustable camber kit
-Omni-POWER USA 2nd gen lower control arm
-JIC magic front and rear strut bar
-Steel braided brake lines
-AEM brake pads
-Volks/Rays Racing TE37 Gunmetal +42mm offset 16x7
-Rota Slipstream flat black (winter tires)
-Yokohama Parada Spec-2 205/45 front tires
-Nitto 455 205/40 rear tires
-Polyurethane inserts
-ARP extended wheel studs
-Kyogen lug nuts... will switch to maybe some Skunk2 extended)
-Crossdrilled/Slotted front and rear brake rotors
-JK motorsports Traction Bar

Interior/Exterior/Misc:
-Mugen front lip
-GReddy shift knob
-Full Black interior conversion from Tan, done by me
*00 GSR dash
*97 ITR rear seats
*95 LS rear panels
*94 GSR seat belts
*01 ITR carpet
*Recaro SRD with OEM sliders and self fabricated bracket
*Non-SRS JDM ITR steering wheel
*USDM ITR floor mats
*JDM ITR shift boot
*Repainted center console and arm rest
*Some stereo stuff

[Sivik]

awesome specs man...

if your using a b16 tranny what are you going to do with the type r one? pm me on that one plz...

phantom grip LSD? i've heard they are good for straight lines but not at cornering. let me know how that works out for you cuz i was steered away from it.

[thermal]

more pics

[thermal]

yep

[ShEaNy]

looks good :) :yes: :yes: how much did that all run u...

[JDMFantasy2k]

:eek: woah is that an AEM EMS i see there? damn arnel you are going all out. Also looks like a hondata intake manifold gasket..

[thermal]

lol... that is not an EMS. It's the C2Di box. I'm sticking with Hondata until i figure out how to dyno tune.

New pics today!

[thermal]

starting to take shape:

[thermal]

:yes:

[thermal]

:stickman:

[thermal]

Originally posted by ShEaNy
looks good :) :yes: :yes: how much did that all run u...
lol..... i dont even want to think about it man. The total turbo cost ever since my first T3T04 set-up cost as much as the whole car already.....

[MissJDM]

I'm in love with the turbo manifold.

w0rd. simply..w0rd.

[dabouncerx24]

That Red Dragon looking thing is the turbo manifold?

[thermal]

lol..... yeah, it's the ramhorn lookin thing... That's the turbo manifold made by Cody Loveland of LoveFab

[ChrisCantSkate]

i'll trade ya my lude for it all :D

[thermal]

ha ha... not yet Chris. I gotta feel what it does first and enjoy it.

[thermal]

addition to the set-up:

[JDMFantasy2k]

i've run out of words to express how incredible that is going to turn out. keep taking pictures Arnel! you're going to have no problem getting into the pages of honda tuning! :yes:

can't wait to see what it'll do down the 1320

[thermal]

We'll see. I'm still trying to get my car painted too.

[thermal]

I just finished the 3 inch downpipe... shit took me so long to get the bend right..

[thermal]

I'm waiting to receive the RPM Services 70mm throttle body also

[thermal]

what a mess....

[thermal]

I cleaned up some:

[JDMFantasy2k]

holy fuck. I looked at that downpipe and started giggling like a little girl. Crazyness. Do you have an EGT plumbed into the DP and if so, why? I thought that made for really inaccurate readings....

[thermal]

Actually, EGT are better to have than A/F ratio gauge. EGT's are more acurate than A/F. The 2 bungs plumbed on the DP are for EGT and A/F. I use GReddy gauges. The GReddy A/F still suck ass tho, eventhough it came with its own O2 sensor. I put it there for now. I will get rid of that A/F ratio gauge later and use the O2 bung for a wideband.....

[IALuder]

awesome. so when are you going to build up my H22?

[thermal]

Originally posted by IALuder
awesome. so when are you going to build up my H22?
Buy the parts and bring it over. I'll hook you up....

[pdiggitydogg]

Why isnt the EGT in runner 3 on the manifold instead?

[thermal]

I prefer not to drill a whole on runner #3 on my Lovefab manifold. I did that on my old SFP manifold and had a hard time selling it. I'm not too worry about it tho since I'll be getting a wideband instead.

[ShEaNy]

looking goood man..that DP looks crazyyy :yes:

[IALuder]

thats a long ass hual. but it might be possible!

[JDMFantasy2k]

Originally posted by pdiggitydogg
Why isnt the EGT in runner 3 on the manifold instead? that was my thought exactly

hey arnel, how big is that wastegate? i'm assuming it's a tial.

[thermal]

The wastegate is only 38mm Tial. Depending on my dyno results, I will mostlikely upgrade to 44mm. I will get an adapter plate vice trying to get a different flange rewelded......

[Sivik]

just get the wideband now, after all the money you spent a wideband is considered pocket change.

you gonna tune it yourself on Hondata or have someone else do it? i figure with all this work you should tune it to complete the package.

[thermal]

Nah. My tuner is the shit. He owned the second Hondata ever made. So his knowledge about it is unbeatable....

[Sivik]

ah gotcha... just saying cuz i've been learning and its not hard.

oh by the way... i hate you and your turbo Type RRRRRRR!

[thermal]

lol

[thermal]

I just got the Teg towed to get it painted...... Hopefully next week, I'll be working on dropping the motor in...

[BlackEJ]

Originally posted by thermal
lol
Hey arnell who's painting your shit and for how much?
I need pics bro when you get it back, oh btw your shit is looking mad sick bro.

[thermal]

Pinoy hook-up mang..... $1500. They will be stripping the car down, fix all the wholes on my trunk, paint the engine bay, paint the car, paint door jams, pain the trunk, and polish my CF hood. It should look awesome! I've seen their work. I'm very impressed....

[ShEaNy]

man....that is going to be sweet...i need a paint job sooo bad...but everyone here is a rip off...:mad:

[thermal]

The car should be done in the middle of the week. I will take pics

[sohc_vtec 2NR]

dayum kuya! your setup is badass!! thanks for the turboD inspiration! lol

[thermal]

^no problem man. Your set-up is coming along well too... keep it up!

More pics! i rewrapped the DP with new charcoal thermal wrap

[thermal]

Paint job is done! I love it! It's just the way I wanted it to be..... not too "eye catching". It's just an Electric Green Mustang color. The car got really dusty (from pollen) on this picture cuz it sat for a few hours outside while waiting for the to truck.

[thermal]

another dusty picture. i will take better pics once I get the motor in and wax job....

[JDMFantasy2k]

holy fuck dude. What are your HP goals/estimates?

[thermal]

The motor is capable of 800 whp. But I'm not gonna take it that high. I still want this car somewhat streetable. I expect to at least hit 550 on 20-24 psi dyno tuned....

[JDMFantasy2k]

on C16 i assume

[thermal]

Yeah... or 420-450 93 octane

[esthirteen]

damn man, looking real good.

did that charcoal wrap make you itch like crazy? lol. cause my friend just wrapped his header on his h22 and it made him itch all over. then we started it up and the shit smokes for awhile.

[thermal]

Thanks:cool:

[ChrisCantSkate]

damn... thats all i can say.your gonna need to get sound/video clips or something once its tuned.. or while dynoing it.

[JDMFantasy2k]

+1

[Mischief]

I'll trade you Integras :D BTW I have a question, is there a difference between the GS and LS Integras? Does one version just get the "luxury" items (spoiler and rims, I think that's it) and the other doesn't?

[thermal]

Originally posted by Mischief
I'll trade you Integras :D BTW I have a question, is there a difference between the GS and LS Integras? Does one version just get the "luxury" items (spoiler and rims, I think that's it) and the other doesn't?
not too sure about that mang. Hondamaniac and Pdiggs can answer that question better than me. I just know that B18A and B18B bottom block is the same.

[thermal]

Originally posted by ChrisCantSkate
damn... thats all i can say.your gonna need to get sound/video clips or something once its tuned.. or while dynoing it.
I'll have a short video done if I find somebody local to lend me a digi cam

[pdiggitydogg]

GS had tinted glass and rear spoiler, came available in cayenne red (only that, clover and silver), and had leather (maybe optioned) - LS came in a multitude of colors. There could be some other things...none are important imo
Other than that, the engine is identical (b18b1)

[Mischief]

Originally posted by pdiggitydogg
GS had tinted glass and rear spoiler, came available in cayenne red (only that, clover and silver), and had leather (maybe optioned) - LS came in a multitude of colors. There could be some other things...none are important imo
Other than that, the engine is identical (b18b1) when you say the GS came with that do you mean it was standard, and optional for the LS? because mine came with a rear spoiler.. though it's possible the previous owner put it on himself, seeing how I have a brake light in my rear window as well

[dabouncerx24]

Yes, GS come with the spoilers standard. All 94-01 LS do not come with the spoiler, its not even an option...I think all Integra coupes have that rear brake light..

[thermal]

Back to the build....

I finally got the tranny rebuilt by my tuner. he integrated an upgraded/coated/stronger 3rd, 4th, 5th gear with the same gear ratio. Good stuff from Gear Speed. I painted the housing to match the motor paint:

[thermal]

I made my own catch can from some left over 3 inch piping. I also incorporated a dipstick from an old motor I had laying around:.

[thermal]

:yes:

[thermal]

I have about 98% of the parts to get the motor running. The only problem now is that I'm going to be out to sea... navy stuff.... for 3 weeks. Once I get back, I will drop the motor in and refabricate a few charge pipes and mate my DP and exhaust system.

[Mischief]

that's a big fking catch can jesus

[thermal]

lol.... not really man. The GReddy catch cans are wayyy bigger...:o

[ShEaNy]

looking good man...:yes: :yes: :yes:

[Mischief]

well from the catch can I saw on the guy that lives up the street on me.. he has a SRT4 and is alot smaller than that.. and my cousin's GST has an even smaller one..

[BlackEJ]

damn arnel good looking tranny you got there mang, nice work on that catch tank.
Hey bro holla @ ur boy!!!!!!:bandit:

[thermal]

Sup Chris.... I'm out to sea right now bro. I was home, the Teg would've been running by now....

[Addict]

Originally posted by thermal
lol.... not really man. The GReddy catch cans are wayyy bigger...:o
Yep. Just about too big to be used anywhere. I found that out the hard way on the Eclipse....:mad:

Nice job on the catch can.

[thermal]

Yeah, the only aftermarket one I would buy is the Moroso version...

[Mischief]

therm when you getting home so we can see the finished product?

[thermal]

I'll be back early June. Then the install begins. I still have to put my braking system together also.....

[BlackEJ]

Hey bro so what are you using for stoppers with this new set up?
Spoon, Brembo, wilwood maybe!!!!!

[thermal]

I'm not gonna upgrade the calipers yet. I'm looking at a set of Rotora xdrilled/slotted or Brembo xdrilled. The pads are barely used. I'm also thinking about redoing the whole brake hydraulic system..... redo all the tubing cuz the stock looks like a big clustrofuk.....:o

[thermal]

I have a feeling that I will be switching to AEM EMS. Just really depends on what my contact wants to do........

[thermal]

Finally had time to drop the motor in:

[thermal]

I dropped the motor in within 2 hours. I installed the.clutch/FW/tranny myself and a friend helped a little bit.

The only problem now is that it looks like I will have to refab to reposition my old piping to compensate for a bigger turbo and intake manifold. Too bad that i also have to redo my down pipe again cuz I overlooked the clutch slave cylinder bleed valve being on the way. It's okay tho. It shouldnt take me too long to redo the DP.

Gonna get the motor started sometime during the week......

[AkimboStylee]

looks good

[JDMFantasy2k]

that motor makes me wet:yes:

[Sivik]

excellent work

[thermal]

Gonna continue Tuesday. I should be able to complete all the piping by night time.......

[Mischief]

I'm jealous... If you're ever looking to trade that in for a stock LS let me know, I have a deal lined up for you ;) :yes:

[thermal]

starting to look like a car....

just readjusted the DP and DT

[thermal]

I also relocated the radiator bottom support and had it positioned to as far to the left as possible

[Mischief]

you should order a JDM front end while it's all apart like it is ;) just kidding, sexy as ever.. I can't wait till you get it on the dyno

[pdiggitydogg]

Not putting a cover on the cam gears??

[GT40FIED]

Damn Arnel...bad ass pics. Do you mind if I just dry hump your car for a while?

[thermal]

Pat,
Nope, I will not be putting a cover on the cam gears. I wanted to, but my timing is already half a tooth off as it is since the head was milled. My tuner also told me to leave it open since he will be messing around with the cam gear timing......

Steve,
Go on right ahead bro...... lol

[dabouncerx24]

Dude nice car. Whats the total cost of everything by now? $96000?

[thermal]

^more than double of the blue book value of the car itself....... ............................ atleast ;(

[dabouncerx24]

So give us an expected finish date for the beast.

[thermal]

End of august. It should terrorizing the streets by then.....:bandit:

[dabouncerx24]

That long? Thought you already put the engine in there. Whats the expected HP output? 500 to the wheels?

[JDMFantasy2k]

hey arnel do you have slicks for it too? should be impressive on slicks :yes:

[thermal]

dabouncer, there is one thing you do not know bro. I'm in the Navy and I wont be back until late July. Trust me mang, I'd like to get this car back on the street as soon as possible :yes:

JDM, I do plan on running slicks, if I ever go to the track.

[GT40FIED]

Originally posted by thermal
dabouncer, there is one thing you do not know bro. I'm in the Navy and I wont be back until late July. Trust me mang, I'd like to get this car back on the street as soon as possible :yes:

JDM, I do plan on running slicks, if I ever go to the track.

Track my ass. Do a run on the carrier deck.

[thermal]

:toofunny: then there wont be a need for an engine. I'll just hop on the catapult :toofunny:

[RxGoaT13]

nice setup... should be awesome when your done.

[JDMFantasy2k]

is arnel out to see again, cause it's been pretty quiet around here lately :rolleyes:

[ChrisCantSkate]

yeah.. i think till mid late july

[thermal]

yeah, I'm still out. I'll be another week or so. Internet is freaking slooooooowwwwwwww out in the ocean! :o

[BlackEJ]

Hell's yeah that shit is focking slow mang.

[Mischief]

Originally posted by thermal
yeah, I'm still out. I'll be another week or so. Internet is freaking slooooooowwwwwwww out in the ocean! :o another week? tell the boat to start heading home now, doesn't it have vtec?

[thermal]

Originally posted by Mischief
another week? tell the boat to start heading home now, doesn't it have vtec?
lol... non-VTEC... but turbo with 200,000 BHP on the water.. ha ha

[2000Pimpinex]

Progress is looking great. Keep up the great work.

[Mischief]

Any updates on your beast, thermal?

[thermal]

I wish bro. Here is what's up with me:
http://www.hstuners.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25089

[Mischief]

it's too bad but good all at the same time.. my friend just got his turbo GSR on the road a few days ago and it's siiiiiiiiiick.. I'll have to take pictures sometime

[thermal]

yeah mang......

[dabouncerx24]

Man when the hell can you get the thing up and running? It's been like a 3 month delay already.

[-.NsaNiTi.-]

dude do you not know whats going on with him??

[JDMFantasy2k]

took me a year to turbo a civic :rolleyes:

so either boost your own car or quit bitching :yes:

it'll be worth the wait

[dabouncerx24]

Yea I read whats up with him..all the promotion commotion and Naval ship stuff...

If I had $10,000 to get a ITR swap and rebuild it AND get a nice-ass turbocharger with related parts, I will boost my own car and stop bitching :).

[Sivik]

at least he's doing it right... he can take all the time he wants

[-.NsaNiTi.-]

no joke man. crazy setup.

it took me quite me quite awhile to get my car done too. but then again i had 3900$ worth of damage too.

but it takes time, and he probably doesnt have a whole lot so get off his ass about it haha

[thermal]

It's all good man. I should be back in business after this week. Even my local friends dont know what is up with me. I cant even remember what parts I have in my garage now. All I know is that I have all my brake and suspension set-up ready to go. I'm gonna say fuk it (in regards to the interior). I need to enjoy the car before I deploy overseas again. Plus my girl is gonna drive it whenever she's in town while I'm gone....

[-.NsaNiTi.-]

sounds good bud.

everything is lookin great haha. I kind of did the same thing you did just to get it out there running around. I dont even have any tunes in mine right now haha.

[JDMFantasy2k]

Originally posted by thermal
Plus my girl is gonna drive it whenever she's in town while I'm gone....

you must really love her :yes:

[ChrisCantSkate]

^ haha thats what i was thinking.. i can count how many people have driven my car on one hand.. and ive had it for almost 5 years now.

[-.NsaNiTi.-]

haha same here..

[thermal]

Originally posted by JDMFantasy2k
you must really love her :yes:
I just hope she doesnt get a ticket. I just want to make sure the rotating components doesnt seize while I'm gone. I will set the boost to low side and ensure the the E-cut stays close before I go....

[thermal]

Here we go. I finally had a little bit of time to fuk with the suspension and braking today. I bought me a 12 ton hydraulic press to replace the front hub bearings and ball joints. I installed the extended wheel studs as well. I had some problems dealing with the hub bearings. Both of them bitches only came off with one side. The other half of the bearing inner housing remained on the hub. So I had to run to the nearest AutoZone to get a bearing puller. After an hour of improvision and patience, I finally got it off. The Hydraulic press was awesome. It surely made things so much easier. I'll post pics wednesday. I should putting the suspension and brake system back on. This wekkend will be some wiring and quite possible start the car.... if I ever get my Hondata base map..........

[-.NsaNiTi.-]

nice looking forward to it.

[thermal]

AEM EMS is so tempting. I know that I will eventually do it. This is a writing by one of my closest friends:

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1344468

D-Tuned and CompressionFed were both garage sleepers. We all used to hang out so much. Now both of them are so far ahead of me. I missed out on some knowledge.

[-.NsaNiTi.-]

yea Ive been considering it for a while now too.

[sicones]

man thats awasome, the seprate coil for each plug but that shit is overkill, you can only run that with the aem ems right????

[AkimboStylee]

my sentra has something like that, Distributorless ignition (each plug has an Electrical device attached to it, and than a wiring harness that goes into the regular wiring harness) i guess?

[thermal]

Originally posted by sicones
man thats awasome, the seprate coil for each plug but that shit is overkill, you can only run that with the aem ems right????
Any Stand Alone system that can individually control spark can do it. Tec systems and some Accel units can do it too. It's just that the EMS for some reason made it very easy for tuners.


UPDATE:
Sorry no pics today. But, I was able to complete one side of my suspension. My tuner also gave me a base Hondata map for my set. Basically to run a 1000cc injectors on a 84mm bore under a 3 bar map sensor. This car should start this weekend. :yes:. Then I'm gonna work out all the bugs before I dyno tune late next weekend.... well, hopefully....

[JDMFantasy2k]

how come you couldn't use your old tune as a basemap, i'm assuming it's cause you upgraded your injectors?

[thermal]

:yes: yep, plus a 3 bar map sensor. Last time I was stock

[thermal]

shitty pics cuz it was too dark outside

[thermal]

painte the piping with dupli-color 1200 degree ceramic black

[thermal]

...

[thermal]

ready for duty: Hondata S200b base map (1000cc injectors/3 bar map sensor/1.9L)

[thermal]

my new toy which made replacing bearing and studs so simple

[thermal]

brakes

[ChrisCantSkate]

wow... looks amazing. im jelous

[thermal]

my complete DP with scavenge system and E-cut:

[thermal]

installed. Scavenge system ready to go

[thermal]

DP and DT wrapped

[thermal]

my civic :bandit:

[thermal]

This is Dameon aka D-tuned wiring up my Ignition System (MSD blaster SS amplified by AEM C2Di.

[thermal]

Jic Magic strut bar. From the pix, it looks like not a whole lot was done today, but trust me, I busted my ass all day.

I finished the downpipe. I welded the E-cut, O2 bung, bracket, and scavenge tube. I also painted it with high temp ceramic-base paint.

The ignition system is complete, thanks to D-tuned.

I hooked up and lock-wired all the vacuum lines for the BOV, boost controller solenoid, boost gauge, WG, FPR, and 3 bar map sensor.

I ran and hooked up the solenoid for the N2O intercooler spray.

I fabricated all kinds of stuff like hose brackets and blasterSS bracket.

I repaintd my calipers black.

more shit to follow. I'm out to sea again for a few days. Once I get back, I should be ready to fire this baby up and ready for dyno tuning.

[AkimboStylee]

DAMN is all i can say! a thing of beauty!

[JDMFantasy2k]

when did you get new wheels for the civic? And why'd you ditch teh mr7's?? Also how's that B20 holdin up?

I assume the scavange system is for the PCV system? Looking good man, time to call up honda tuning :yes:

[thermal]

Originally posted by AkimboStylee
DAMN is all i can say! a thing of beauty!

thanks:yes:

[thermal]

Originally posted by JDMFantasy2k
when did you get new wheels for the civic? And why'd you ditch teh mr7's?? Also how's that B20 holdin up?

I assume the scavange system is for the PCV system? Looking good man, time to call up honda tuning :yes:
Those MR7 has been long gone a winter and a half ago. They are too heavy. Those Rota Slips are from my teg. I have TE37's now for the TEG. The B20 is too slow for me...........

Yep, PCV........ :yes:

[JDMFantasy2k]

can't beat boost...:yes:

[thermal]

yep.

This just always happens to me. Each time I get close to completing something, I get pulled off to go out to sea.....

[BlackEJ]

Originally posted by thermal
Those MR7 has been long gone a winter and a half ago. They are too heavy. Those Rota Slips are from my teg. I have TE37's now for the TEG. The B20 is too slow for me...........

Yep, PCV........ :yes:
Damn Arnel I didn't know you had some focking Volks for the teggy, btw what color are they?

[Mischief]

volks make such sexy wheels, I'm jealous.

[ChrisCantSkate]

i cant get enough of your car man... i love the manifold in there

[thermal]

Originally posted by BlackEJ
Damn Arnel I didn't know you had some focking Volks for the teggy, btw what color are they?
I forgot to show you at the crib bro. I have it on my patio collecting dust. Gunmetal.....

[BlackEJ]

Originally posted by thermal
I forgot to show you at the crib bro. I have it on my patio collecting dust. Gunmetal.....
I'll take a look at them when you get back from out to sea!!!!

[thermal]

I'm back focker. I was in Richmond. Hit me up monday and let me see that new ride!

[BlackEJ]

Originally posted by thermal
I'm back focker. I was in Richmond. Hit me up monday and let me see that new ride!
WORD!!

[thermal]

Monday (10OCT) will be a big day. I'm gonna start the car. Keeping my fingers crossed:smoking:

I have a couple more items to get but not related to the turbo set-up. I'm eyeballing some titanium traction bar and EDM ITR black interior. I plan to get the roll cage done in March/April time frame. By then, I need to have all my interior conversion done.

[BlackEJ]

Originally posted by thermal
Monday (10OCT) will be a big day. I'm gonna start the car. Keeping my fingers crossed:smoking:

I have a couple more items to get but not related to the turbo set-up. I'm eyeballing some titanium traction bar and EDM ITR black interior. I plan to get the roll cage done in March/April time frame. By then, I need to have all my interior conversion done.
What time focker?
I gotta be there to see teh teggy start up!!!!!

[thermal]

around noon mang

[thermal]

Well, sometimes plans just dont come together. Today was supposed to be easy. It turned out that I had to do more. I forgot to even include installing my rear disc brakes but that is done now. I also had to pull off the turbo timer and the boost controller out of my civic and get it moved into my Teg. The interior is a big mess but I can fix that later.

I attempted to start the car. I couldnt get it to crank at first. I looked around and found that my fuel pump wasnt even plugged in. It still wouldnt crank. Then I looked around again and found that one of the ground wire wasnt connected. Then I got it to crank... but it wouldnt start. Now, I'm thinking that the MSD and C2Di combo might be the issue. I was too tired to rewire it back to stock nor even mess with the MSD and plug spark. I'll wait till tomorrow for D-tuned to decipher the issue.

I also score a Sparco Torino from BlackEJ. Thanks bro.

For now, here's a picture. Looks like nothing major was done, but believe it or not, I worked all day for this:

[thermal]

.

[thermal]

.... got the car running. The idle is crap since I only have the base Hondata map. I know that my timing is really off too. The car looks awesome!

However I have another problem. My brake system is jacked up for some reason. I bled the crap out of it already. I noticed this problem before the I tore apart my Teg but it was to a minimum. I overhauled my brake system already. I changed all the rubber lines with steel braded, replaced the rotors, and replaced the booster. Could it be that the ABS system needs to be looked at? I'm going to bleed it off some more. The system was "open" for a long time anyway while I was upgrading the rotors and lines.

[thermal]

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[thermal]

my oil filter. the one on the right :yes:

[thermal]

havent even washed the car yet :od

[thermal]

too low

[thermal]

... and another

[thermal]

the JIC magic rear strut bar

[thermal]

Rain................

[BlackEJ]

Damn bro that bish is focking low as hell, but hey them Volks make up for it.
Looking good bro.

[dabouncerx24]

Dam that thing is fucking nice...when do you expect to have some numbers for us bro?

[thermal]

I gotta fix the brakes. I need to rebleed the line. After that, I will schedule an appointment with my tuner........

[Mischief]

when'd you get the carbon fibre hood?

[thermal]

I've always had it. It's just that it looked really beat up. When my car got painted, the shop went ahead polished and redid the clear coat. It looks brand new.

[GT40FIED]

Originally posted by thermal
havent even washed the car yet :od

Who's that dude in the suit next to your car?:D

[thermal]

That my neighbor. He drives a 00 Si that he takes autocrossing. He was just checking out the progress

[ebpda9]

damn, that's a bitchin' hot car.

Originally posted by GT40FIED
Who's that dude in the suit next to your car?:D

ohh damn, he likes dudes in suits now. you never cease to amaze me man. ;)

[GT40FIED]

Originally posted by hondaman-iac
ohh damn, he likes dudes in suits now. you never cease to amaze me man. ;)

Fuck off Romanian.:D The guy just looked out of place.

[thermal]

he really does look out of place even in person. He is an elementary teacher and pretty old.

[thermal]

ok.

I raised the front suspension about an inch just to get used to this ride again. I was also able to figure out the problem with my brakes.... it was a stupid mistake:od.......

I also mounted the Sparco seat, which by the way kicked my ass. Never buy the rails from Weapon-R. I didnt know that it was from them, otherwise I would've bought a different brand. I could've fabricated that shit myself for less than I paid for and come up with a better product. I was so disappointed.

I welded the last piece of pipe for my 3 inch exhaust. All I did was eliminate the cat with a 3 inch flex pipe mated with a 3 inch Thermal (of course) cat-back. The car sounds mean but kind of loud. I guess I'm just not used to loud cars anymore.

I gotta get this car tuned on the Dyno very very soon.

So I took the Teg for a ride last night. Just 2 laps around the block. I slowly gave it gas on second gear. This SC61 is just different from any other turbo set-up I've ever driven..... it scared the fuk out of me. I didnt expect it to hit hard. I hit "boost cut" so quick that I couldnt react fast enough to let off the throttle and look at the boost gauge. I'm gonna try again during the day where I can actually see the road......

[pdiggitydogg]

I want to know how you screwed up your brakes and sent me into a wondering state of "what the hell else could be wrong??"

[thermal]

:od .... I felt so dumb bro. SOrry to get you to thinking... he he he.... I really fuk up small shit like this. I bled the brakes wrong. I started from the closest caliper to the farthest. I also bled it like the way I bled off my clutch.... pump until it gets hard then open the bleed port.

So I got a little smart. First I rigged a hose from the bleed port to a can full of DOT-5. I ensured that the hose is submerged in the fluid. Then I cracked open the bleed port. I slowly pumped the pedal about 5-8 times. Then I retightenend the bleed port, checked the reservoir, and add fluid as necessary. I did this to all corners and I immediately noticed the difference after the second caliper.....:smoking: lol:D

[IALuder]

nice choice of rims on the teg. i see the civic got the slips.

like i mentioned, when i get to my turbo part of the hybrid. im driving my car out to you.:cool:

[thermal]

Thanks... I'll see you then :yes:

[TeriyakiBroccoli]

wow the car looks fucking beautiful.

[slowEJ6]

indeed.....color looks awesome

[thermal]

Fuk it!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm picking up an AEM EMS 2morrow. My buddy D-tuned found a great deal. It sux cuz I just paid $280 for an MSD digital 6+. Good thing I still have my AEM C2Di. I just DL'd the tuning program to my laptop. If everything goes smooth, I should be driving around on a street tuned EMS Teg 2morrow.

Selling my Hondata S200b stuff/OBD2a to OBD1 conversion harness/P28 ECU socketed and MSD digital 6+...............

[Mischief]

Originally posted by thermal

Selling my Hondata S200b stuff/OBD2a to OBD1 conversion harness/P28 ECU socketed and MSD digital 6+............... tree fitty