The red saturn I raced....

[OPAKRACING]

I don't know how many of you remember my post about the red saturn kill i posted on the kill boards about 2 weeks ago. But, if you recall, on the post, we were talking about what the saturn had in it because it appeared totaly stock, yet it still kept up with me....well, it turns out that his nephew goes to my school. His uncles saturn has a turbo charger in it! haha...I beat a turbocharged saturn :P . hehe...just updating you guys :)

[blind34_1]

yes but did you actually SEE the turbo? people talk a lotta crap most times, much like the cavalier rice kid that claimed he had a "vtec conversion".

[ebpda9]

yeah dude my car has 14 cylinders,

















4 for the engine, 1 for the master brake cylinder, 6 cylinders for brakes, and 3 for...... i can't remeber ;) ;)

[OPAKRACING]

I made sure and asked the kid over and over if he was SURE it was turbo'd. And he kept saying yes....i think he would want to be on his uncles side tho....so, if he lost (the saturn) which he did, then it seems like he would want to play up his car as completely stock....no?

I did notice that after the race, i was behind him, adn the car was abnormaly fast for having no mods (that i could see). I don't know, i will never see it i'm sure....i saw him parked adn leaning on his car flirting with some chick yesturday, and i drove by and grinned at him. haha...anyways....interesting :)

[HondaTypeJ]

I dont believe you beat a turbo charged saturn. :bs:

[armyguy5]

:bs: :busted: :foot:

[OPAKRACING]

Originally posted by HondaTypeJ
I dont believe you beat a turbo charged saturn. :bs:


mmk....why is that?

[OPAKRACING]

UPDATE: The person driving the saturn was the kids uncle, but the car is the uncles sons....he goes to my school, and is going to drive his car to school tomarow to show me the turbo. We'll see whats up then, i'll post again tomarow.

OPAK

[armyguy5]

depending on what type of saturn SC1 or SC2......the sc2 mid 90's has a 1.9 liter DOHC and if it's turbo'd no way

chris

[OPAKRACING]

It was not the twin cam one....it was the plain 4 cylander saturn....coupe i believe. I had a good look at the back of it, because i was behind him later after the race....and it didn't say, "Twin cam"

[armyguy5]

ok regardless the DOHC is still a 4 cyl so the SC1 with a single cam 1.9 tubro......heres and idea...did the car have lights on the trunk at all

chris

[OPAKRACING]

no....i don't think so....the twin cam one does...this is impart why i know it wasn't a twin cam. it was automatic btw also.

[OPAKRACING]

I know what the rear end of the 'twin cam' saturn looks like....this didn't look like it, and it didn't say 'twin cam' on it. i think that thats enough info to prove its not a twin cam satrun, lol.

[armyguy5]

ohhh cuz it didn't say it huh? i debadged my civic so all its has on the car is the H from Honda....

[armyguy5]

done posting here

chris

[HondaTypeJ]

EX vs a Saturn. Maybe. Not a turbo, not with the mods you have which isnt much. I dont drive a turbo and I could beat your car. Too bad I dont street race though...

[OPAKRACING]

Haha, you're treating this like we're fighting, i'm certainely not. I do know what the rear end of a twin cam saturn looks like....it wasn't one....and even if he did a swap....i Still KICKED ITS ASS.

nuff said.

[OPAKRACING]

Originally posted by HondaTypeJ
EX vs a Saturn. Maybe. Not a turbo, not with the mods you have which isnt much. I dont drive a turbo and I could beat your car. Too bad I dont street race though...

You're engine=bigger than mine....with mods

Yea you could beat me! You'd kill me!

Maybe i gotta keep reminding you guys....I'M 16, THIS IS MY FIRST CAR! I THINK ITS PRETTY DAMN GOOD FOR A FIRST CAR!

What did you have as a first car?

[HondaTypeJ]

Im not arguing at all. All I am saying is that I have seen a Turbo saturn go up against many Civics down here at the GW Forum and none of them won. AND they were modded, a few of them with more mods than what you currently have. I just find it hard to believe...

[OPAKRACING]

Originally posted by HondaTypeJ
Im not arguing at all. All I am saying is that I have seen a Turbo saturn go up against many Civics down here at the GW Forum and none of them won. AND they were modded, a few of them with more mods than what you currently have. I just find it hard to believe...

No no, you're kool, i'm not fighting with you...i don't wanna fight with anyone, but...ya know...

the saturn had no other mods except the turbo, and it is some factory performance part, lol....the sticker on the side of the car says somthing to the fact of... "Factory performance"

[HondaTypeJ]

IMO Saturns are crap anyway. And as for my first car I had a Civic EX as well (4 door 96'). It had a header, exhaust, intake...all that good stuff...As a matter of fact, I saw (a few weeks ago) at the GW forum this guy who had the same first car I did with pretty much the same mods. He went up against that turbo Saturn and lost. Not big time, but he did loose. I dont know if this Saturn that was racing had any other mods.

[OPAKRACING]

Yes, i don't like saturns that much either....from the sound of the car, i don't think it had any other mods to the engine. I didn't hear an intake or header. This saturn is an automatic also....i don't know how good of a driver he was also. theres a whole bunch of stuff that could be factors in this.

[armyguy5]

Originally posted by OPAKRACING
I didn't hear an intake or header.

LMAO HAHAHAHAHA

chris

[ebpda9]

Originally posted by armyguy5
LMAO HAHAHAHAHA

chris mwuahahaha

[94_AcCoRd_EX]

Originally posted by armyguy5
LMAO HAHAHAHAHA

chris

Bahahahahahaha

Just thought I'd join in :paranoid:

[TeriyakiBroccoli]

dont u know, a header gives the turbo saturn a PSHHT BOOM sound.

I run DC headers with my big wonkin T3 turbo all the time. my turbo is ghetto mounted past my cat so i can still get flow.

[OPAKRACING]

Originally posted by armyguy5
LMAO HAHAHAHAHA

chris

WTF! why you always have to bomb my f*cking posts! YOu're jsut good at pissn people off! F*ck off if your gunna do that.

are you lauging at the fact i said couldn't hear headers...yes chris, you can actually hear headers, wow, amazing eh? and i didn't know that the car had a turbo when i was racing it...so there for you could still have headers....STFU whore, i'm sick of your down talking.

[armyguy5]

lol no u cant hear headers or an intake Especially if your inside your car with it running and trying to listen to theirs....u might hear it all through exhasut but it has a muffler which muffles the sound....every car has "headers" in it....it's part of the exhasut system unless u remove the cat and the rest of the exhasut "aka straight piping it" u cant hear them...sorry...and as for a CAI....the only tiem i can hear mine is when i shut my engine off and u hear the air flow stop after the engine shuts off...some cars....like subarus with short ram air's or CAI's can u hear the difference...sorry pal..that's why were laughin

chris

[OPAKRACING]

yea, i don't know wtf kinda honda you have, but when i floor mine, i can hear the intake suckn, its like a lil hissing sound....also, i had my headers on before my cat back exhaust...The car is so much louder! i don't know where the hell you got yur info. i said that out of first hand experience.


EDIT: I used to be able to hear it even louder when i had my short ram intake.

[armyguy5]

whatever man your gettin really stupid my IQ is dropping talkin to i'm done and for you info i drive a 2002 civic ex....2001 subaru 2.5 RS and a 1979 Chevy K10 with a k20 chasis....yea i know what i'm talkin about

chris

[OPAKRACING]

And plus, when you put headers, or intake the car does get a lil deeper. It opens it up, it gets mroe of a growly sound.

[96coupe]

the point they are making is there is no way you could hear the i/h of another car on the road while you were in your car w/ your own i/h/e.

and yes an intake will make a little noise, but not enough for others to hear.

[ohiochica]

opak.......why dont you just stfu! no one likes you, no oen believes you, go the hell away! instead of buying car parts buy a clue and maybe a brain transplant cuz you sure need something up there, aparently you cant hear much with all air flowing between your ears.

[OPAKRACING]

Originally posted by armyguy5
whatever man your gettin really stupid my IQ is dropping talkin to i'm done

chris

i'm gettting stupid....how so? answer that.


the only person that was stupid was you for laughing at me. Try using 94_AcCoRd_EX for an example of how to act, cause you are obviousely not able to interact regularly without a roldmodel. If in your situation,a dn thinking of posting what you did, he'd prolly say instead, "Hmm, thats weird, cause i can't hear my intake or headers..." yea


OPAK

[OPAKRACING]

Originally posted by 96coupe
the point they are making is there is no way you could hear the i/h of another car on the road while you were in your car w/ your own i/h/e.

and yes an intake will make a little noise, but not enough for others to hear.


another example of how you should respond...anways...

The reason i say thati could hear it, is because when i was slowing up for the stop light with the clutch in (engine at .5 rpm) he floored it past me (sped past me) and I COULD HEAR THE ENGINE!!!!

wow, novel idea.

[armyguy5]

are you really still talking? i thought we ended this little boy..yea i need a Roldmodel lol

chris

[ChrisCantSkate]

Originally posted by 96coupe
the point they are making is there is no way you could hear the i/h of another car on the road while you were in your car w/ your own i/h/e.

and yes an intake will make a little noise, but not enough for others to hear.
dude... i dont know about your car, but my intake it louder than my exaust. the header gave my car a fuller sound, and the exaust made it deep. i'd say about 65% of the sound is my intake

[OPAKRACING]

Originally posted by OPAKRACING
another example of how you should respond...anways...

The reason i say thati could hear it, is because when i was slowing up for the stop light with the clutch in (engine at .5 rpm) he floored it past me (sped past me) and I COULD HEAR THE ENGINE!!!!

wow, novel idea.


how bout you respond to that...old man :crazy:

[OPAKRACING]

Originally posted by ChrisCantSkate
dude... i dont know about your car, but my intake it louder than my exaust. the header gave my car a fuller sound, and the exaust made it deep. i'd say about 65% of the sound is my intake


Thank you. ;)

[armyguy5]

dont need to i'm done

[96coupe]

Originally posted by ChrisCantSkate
dude... i dont know about your car, but my intake it louder than my exaust. the header gave my car a fuller sound, and the exaust made it deep. i'd say about 65% of the sound is my intake

in my car the intake is almost never heard, my exhaust typically drowns it out. but i can't say that i have heard the intake and headers of other cars on the road either.

[OPAKRACING]

Originally posted by armyguy5
dont need to i'm done

i know you don't, its all right there.

nuff said.

[armyguy5]

just remember chriscantskate also has a h22a1 not a d16z7 his has stock at least 190...not 127

[ChrisCantSkate]

Originally posted by 96coupe
in my car the intake is almost never heard, my exhaust typically drowns it out. but i can't say that i have heard the intake and headers of other cars on the road either.
well.... you have a POFS muffler then. you should hear your intake more than anything. your IM is about what.. 2 feet away from you? this thread has gone to hell. this kid may have raced a turbo saturn.. you know what gives a turbo car power? boost. you can run 4psi and get very little power mid range. you guys jump over people too much, its late im tired, i dont feel like being nice. you raped this kid with knowing nothing about the other car. a single cam saturn has NO power. it is slow, a turbo with a low boost setting may only yield 30hp. im not saying i believe or disagree with him, but you guys need to realize turbo does not equal insane power. it is a form of forced induction that needs alot of fuel and tuning to run good power from it. it seemed this thread turned into who can say the worst thing to this kid. everyone asks stupid questions, but for some people to make up shit like headers dont change the noise of your car...c'mon people grow the **** up. we're here to learn about cars, this kid is 16, and dosnt have the same knowledge that i thought some of you had.

[ChrisCantSkate]

Originally posted by armyguy5
just remember chriscantskate also has a h22a1 not a d16z7 his has stock at least 190...not 127
i have friends currently with sohc civics... a 98 ex, a 96 lx, and a 96dx. i hear intake on their cars more than the exaust(2 cat backs, one muffler). they all have short ram and i have cold air though.

[armyguy5]

ok chris since u asked nice...i'll play nice

chris

[ChrisCantSkate]

Originally posted by armyguy5
ok chris since u asked nice...i'll play nice

chris
thats all i ask, nothing more, nothing less. i dont want you to take anyones word as gold, but dont want anyone to treat anything someone says as shit either. ive seen HELL go down over stuff like this (old SHO days)

[ohiochica]

he may be only 16 but he has a horrible smart a$$ mouth on him and made a few people hate him with a big time passion. if he doesnt want slammed he should learn to be respectfull and not say stupid idiotic things to teh wrong people. and not to post bullshit lies.


ok i am all done responding to anything that has opak in it, because i know i cant play nice so i just quit. he he he....god i hate him!

[HondaTypeJ]

Originally posted by ohiochica
opak.......why dont you just stfu! no one likes you, no oen believes you, go the hell away! instead of buying car parts buy a clue and maybe a brain transplant cuz you sure need something up there, aparently you cant hear much with all air flowing between your ears.
You leeching on to other peoples "arguments" is getting old.

[XsiIntegra]

just wondering when did 4 bangers get "headers" last time i checked 4 cyl were inline, if you know somthing i dont please share, and stop the damn flaming this is supposed to be a good board, we dont want to turn into hondaswap.

just so you know opak if you have a 4cly you only have 1 header

now that that is over and done with

i want my fuc*ing motor

[ford50forlife]

Originally posted by OPAKRACING
i said that out of first hand experience.


so from 1st hand experience you can also say that you know what the sound of a HEADER (SINGULAR BECAUSE OF THE FACT IT IS A INLINE 4 MOTOR) on a turbo car?


YOU CANT PUT A HEADER ON A TURBO CAR its a custom exhaust manifold by that point HOUSING the turbo (a header is a design that connects up to the midrange exhaust system/ cat converter) thats why people are poking fun at you, and you ****ing back it up.

a turbo goes on your exhaust MANIFOLD and the gasses spin (SPOOL) up a turbine wheel, Before exiting, that when connected to the impeller shaft spin the fresh intake air(charge) on the other part of the turbine wheel and into the motor's intake manifold eventually via intercooler/intakefilter

how the hell are you gonna hear HIS ****ING HEADER?? you hear boost not header, and you have no experience..

chris you are right on the money that we shouldnt jump on the kill of this kid, AND SOME OF US DIDNT, its the lack of knowledge and ignorance to people who offer rebuttle we poke at.

[blind34_1]

yep...

http://www.freewebs.com/90civicsi/argue.jpg

[ebpda9]

Originally posted by XsiIntegra
just wondering when did 4 bangers get "headers" last time i checked 4 cyl were inline


not if it's a subaru. opposite 4.


and my intake makes more noise than anything in that car, even louder than the misadjusted valves. :loco:

[Shot 2 Hel]

alright here is my .2 cents on this thread that has been shot to hell. Ok yes you can hear an intake, my friend Tommy got an OBX intake off egay for $36 and you can hear that over this whiney sound his car makes, and before he got it you couldent hear anything over that whiney sound. All cars have at least 1 header, and they add a little bit of sound. I dont know all that much about Saturns except that i dont like them, and im not really liking the feeling of this thread. Its kinda taking away what i originally liked about HS, which was the friendly atmosphere. So stop bashing the guy, you dont know the specs of that saturn, like he said it was an automatic. Plus there coulda been like transmission problems, anything. Too much stuff goes into the outcome of a race (reaction time, driving ability, etc.). so just lay off and go on with your daily lives. I had a respect for some of you before, now i really dont.

[ChrisCantSkate]

Originally posted by Shot 2 Hel
alright here is my .2 cents on this thread that has been shot to hell. Ok yes you can hear an intake, my friend Tommy got an OBX intake off egay for $36 and you can hear that over this whiney sound his car makes, and before he got it you couldent hear anything over that whiney sound. All cars have at least 1 header, and they add a little bit of sound. I dont know all that much about Saturns except that i dont like them, and im not really liking the feeling of this thread. Its kinda taking away what i originally liked about HS, which was the friendly atmosphere. So stop bashing the guy, you dont know the specs of that saturn, like he said it was an automatic. Plus there coulda been like transmission problems, anything. Too much stuff goes into the outcome of a race (reaction time, driving ability, etc.). so just lay off and go on with your daily lives. I had a respect for some of you before, now i really dont.
that pretty much summed up my thoughts

[oc civic]

WOW i can't believe i missed this gem of a thread.. get over yourself i have an ex also.. you beat NOTHING turbo with your stock EX.. save yourself the embarrassment of preaching about it not being stock.. your bolt ons on that car mean NOTHING its STILL just another 16 second car..