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CD5Passion · 10-30-2003, 11:44 PM

I'm just a bit curious, what would you any of you suggest for upping the low end torque in a 96 accord VTEC?

how about high-end torque?

10-31-2003, 08:50 AM

A V6.

I have an '01 I4 and I'd looooove more torque.

b

johnriley · 10-31-2003, 01:54 PM

get a header and then maybe exhaust if you don't already

CD5Passion · 11-01-2003, 10:48 AM

ok so all i need are headers then heh
and an intermediate pipe, just got my axle-back exhaust two days ago

94_AcCoRd_EX · 11-01-2003, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shardsofxapril
ok so all i need are headers then heh
and an intermediate pipe, just got my axle-back exhaust two days ago

A header isn't going to boost your low end much, if at all. Pulleys will give you a couple of hp down low, but all in all, there isn't a lot you can do without a lot of money.

johnriley · 11-03-2003, 10:11 AM

After having my header installed I noticed lots of low-end torque 94accordex do you have a header??

94_AcCoRd_EX · 11-03-2003, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by johnriley
After having my header installed I noticed lots of low-end torque 94accordex do you have a header??

Yeah, a DC ceramic 4-2-1. My butt dyno didn't really pick up much on this one, but then again, I'm running the stock exhaust. I think of low end around 2k, and I don't think that the gains are there with this header.

johnriley · 11-03-2003, 10:23 AM

I got my exhaust and header at the same time so I guess that's why I noticed such a big gain. But you would notice it alot more if you got the whole I/H/E I have a chikara tork-step 4-2-1

94_AcCoRd_EX · 11-03-2003, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by johnriley
I got my exhaust and header at the same time so I guess that's why I noticed such a big gain. But you would notice it alot more if you got the whole I/H/E I have a chikara tork-step 4-2-1

Yeah, but a free-flow exhaust generally shifts the torque curve higher in the RPM band. I'm not saying you didn't notice gains, but they aren't too big.

CD5Passion · 11-03-2003, 06:19 PM

do pulleys make much of a difference, I was looking at them on styledright, but I'm just wondering if they are worth it

94_AcCoRd_EX · 11-03-2003, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shardsofxapril
do pulleys make much of a difference, I was looking at them on styledright, but I'm just wondering if they are worth it

I have an AEM set. They're ok, but I'd do I/H/E first. Better gains for the money.

johnriley · 11-04-2003, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 94_AcCoRd_EX
Yeah, but a free-flow exhaust generally shifts the torque curve higher in the RPM band. I'm not saying you didn't notice gains, but they aren't too big.

Also, Honda Non-Vtecs are known for having a little more low end torque.

ebpda9 · 11-04-2003, 10:15 AM

heh, max torque in our accords around 3500rpms. now that seems kinda in the low range doesn't it ?

11-04-2003, 10:30 AM

For a "torquey" engine, 3500 is about right for peak torque.

For a high-revving HP motor, 3500 is a little low in the band for peak.

My car suffers both from lack of peak torque and not enough torque under the curve.

b

CD5Passion · 11-04-2003, 11:40 PM

my car has decent high-end torque (specially when downshifting is used) it's just that off the line bs that usually kills me, man what I would do for DOHC, and man if only I had the cash

11-05-2003, 12:19 AM

Get Level-10 Torque Converter...if you have auto tranny.

CD5Passion · 11-05-2003, 05:07 AM

definatly have a manual, I refuse to touch a auto

11-05-2003, 08:39 AM

i hate auto's.....never will purchase a car with one.....

11-05-2003, 06:20 PM

i heard that the level 10 torque converter will burn manual all day.

ebpda9 · 11-05-2003, 10:59 PM

yeah i heard the same thing too. wait till i get the moola and i am going to have one installed in my automagic.

11-06-2003, 04:21 AM

same here..i think it cost around 300-400 bucks...price of a cat-back...hmm..what should i get first?

11-06-2003, 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by F22B2
i heard that the level 10 torque converter will burn manual all day.

Can it really, though?

Auto tranny weighs more and is less efficient mechanically regardless of how efficient the torque converter is. So then the only real difference I see that could make a difference would be the gear ratios and the drivers.

Or am I totally missing something?

b

ebpda9 · 11-06-2003, 08:31 AM

yeah the price fell from around 900 to 500 now. i am most likely to get one in the spring.

and spooge: most of the tranny losses on an automagic come from the torque converter.

CD5Passion · 11-06-2003, 11:35 PM

hey just wait till I get the cash for a H22 and turbo, I'll teach your torque converter a lesson or two, as if I could ever raise the money

Accord engines can have a turbo slapped on it right?

11-07-2003, 03:51 AM

Shard: Yes, you could slap a turbo on Accords engine...cost around 3-4G for a level 1 turbo.

Hondaman: Where will you get your Level 10 torque converter from? Order from Level 10 itself or another place?

11-07-2003, 07:43 AM

Stefan: Ok.

While we're on the subjects of turbos, anybody know a decent bolt-on supercharger or turbo kit for the 6th gen I4's?

b

ebpda9 · 11-07-2003, 09:25 AM

i know fmax has one, and max rev does make one for the f series engines. i think i can get you the maxrev pretty cheap if you want.

11-07-2003, 03:17 PM

Turbo or supercharger?

I'd rather put on a supercharger than a turbo, I'd have to think more about putting on a turbo.

I'd have to think a decent amount about any FI setup, though......depends on how much has to be done and what it all costs I guess.

b

CD5Passion · 11-08-2003, 05:19 PM

as far as turbo's and superchargers go I'm alittle under unedumicated

what can a supercharger off more than a turbo? basically I'm asking pro's and con's for the SC

11-09-2003, 04:51 PM

A supercharger has a much more linear power increase than a turbo since they are mechanically driven rather than through exhaust gases. Due to the exhaust gases and heats a turbo deals with, they are considered less reliable or of a shorter lifespan than a blower. Also due to the way the blower is driven, they do not suffer from turbo lag.

Personally I consider a blower to be a more useful component for daily drivers where you're only looking for a modest power boost. If you want drastic power bumps, though, you'll need a turbo. I'm not aware of any superchargers that really boost power drastically.

b

CD5Passion · 11-13-2003, 05:20 PM

so what exactly would the power boost be if, say if i were to get a SC way down the road? what kind of gains would you estimate?

10-30-2003, 11:44 PM	#1
CD5Passion Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Santa Barbara, California Age: 38 Posts: 5,446	low-end torque I'm just a bit curious, what would you any of you suggest for upping the low end torque in a 96 accord VTEC? how about high-end torque? __________________

11-01-2003, 10:48 AM	#4
CD5Passion Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Santa Barbara, California Age: 38 Posts: 5,446	ok so all i need are headers then heh and an intermediate pipe, just got my axle-back exhaust two days ago __________________

11-03-2003, 06:19 PM	#10
CD5Passion Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Santa Barbara, California Age: 38 Posts: 5,446	do pulleys make much of a difference, I was looking at them on styledright, but I'm just wondering if they are worth it __________________

11-04-2003, 10:15 AM	#13
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 43 Posts: 17,266	heh, max torque in our accords around 3500rpms. now that seems kinda in the low range doesn't it ? __________________

11-04-2003, 11:40 PM	#15
CD5Passion Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Santa Barbara, California Age: 38 Posts: 5,446	my car has decent high-end torque (specially when downshifting is used) it's just that off the line bs that usually kills me, man what I would do for DOHC, and man if only I had the cash __________________

10-31-2003, 08:50 AM	#2
spoogenet Posts: n/a	A V6. I have an '01 I4 and I'd looooove more torque. b

10-31-2003, 01:54 PM	#3
johnriley 2nd Gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Kansas City, Mo Age: 44 Posts: 211	get a header and then maybe exhaust if you don't already

11-03-2003, 10:11 AM	#6
johnriley 2nd Gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Kansas City, Mo Age: 44 Posts: 211	After having my header installed I noticed lots of low-end torque 94accordex do you have a header??

11-03-2003, 10:23 AM	#8
johnriley 2nd Gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Kansas City, Mo Age: 44 Posts: 211	I got my exhaust and header at the same time so I guess that's why I noticed such a big gain. But you would notice it alot more if you got the whole I/H/E I have a chikara tork-step 4-2-1

11-04-2003, 10:30 AM	#14
spoogenet Posts: n/a	For a "torquey" engine, 3500 is about right for peak torque. For a high-revving HP motor, 3500 is a little low in the band for peak. My car suffers both from lack of peak torque and not enough torque under the curve. b

11-05-2003, 12:19 AM	#16
F22B2 Posts: n/a	Get Level-10 Torque Converter...if you have auto tranny.

11-05-2003, 05:07 AM	#17
CD5Passion Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Santa Barbara, California Age: 38 Posts: 5,446	definatly have a manual, I refuse to touch a auto __________________

11-05-2003, 08:39 AM	#18
vtracer20 Posts: n/a	i hate auto's.....never will purchase a car with one.....

11-05-2003, 06:20 PM	#19
F22B2 Posts: n/a	i heard that the level 10 torque converter will burn manual all day.

11-05-2003, 10:59 PM	#20
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 43 Posts: 17,266	yeah i heard the same thing too. wait till i get the moola and i am going to have one installed in my automagic. __________________

11-06-2003, 04:21 AM	#21
F22B2 Posts: n/a	same here..i think it cost around 300-400 bucks...price of a cat-back...hmm..what should i get first?

11-06-2003, 08:31 AM	#23
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 43 Posts: 17,266	yeah the price fell from around 900 to 500 now. i am most likely to get one in the spring. and spooge: most of the tranny losses on an automagic come from the torque converter. __________________

11-06-2003, 11:35 PM	#24
CD5Passion Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Santa Barbara, California Age: 38 Posts: 5,446	hey just wait till I get the cash for a H22 and turbo, I'll teach your torque converter a lesson or two, as if I could ever raise the money Accord engines can have a turbo slapped on it right? __________________

11-07-2003, 03:51 AM	#25
F22B2 Posts: n/a	Shard: Yes, you could slap a turbo on Accords engine...cost around 3-4G for a level 1 turbo. Hondaman: Where will you get your Level 10 torque converter from? Order from Level 10 itself or another place?

11-07-2003, 07:43 AM	#26
spoogenet Posts: n/a	Stefan: Ok. While we're on the subjects of turbos, anybody know a decent bolt-on supercharger or turbo kit for the 6th gen I4's? b

11-07-2003, 09:25 AM	#27
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 43 Posts: 17,266	i know fmax has one, and max rev does make one for the f series engines. i think i can get you the maxrev pretty cheap if you want. __________________

11-07-2003, 03:17 PM	#28
spoogenet Posts: n/a	Turbo or supercharger? I'd rather put on a supercharger than a turbo, I'd have to think more about putting on a turbo. I'd have to think a decent amount about any FI setup, though......depends on how much has to be done and what it all costs I guess. b

11-08-2003, 05:19 PM	#29
CD5Passion Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Santa Barbara, California Age: 38 Posts: 5,446	as far as turbo's and superchargers go I'm alittle under unedumicated what can a supercharger off more than a turbo? basically I'm asking pro's and con's for the SC __________________

11-09-2003, 04:51 PM	#30
spoogenet Posts: n/a	A supercharger has a much more linear power increase than a turbo since they are mechanically driven rather than through exhaust gases. Due to the exhaust gases and heats a turbo deals with, they are considered less reliable or of a shorter lifespan than a blower. Also due to the way the blower is driven, they do not suffer from turbo lag. Personally I consider a blower to be a more useful component for daily drivers where you're only looking for a modest power boost. If you want drastic power bumps, though, you'll need a turbo. I'm not aware of any superchargers that really boost power drastically. b

11-13-2003, 05:20 PM	#31
CD5Passion Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Santa Barbara, California Age: 38 Posts: 5,446	so what exactly would the power boost be if, say if i were to get a SC way down the road? what kind of gains would you estimate? __________________

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