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Old 03-05-2004, 11:25 AM   #121
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b16 is definately a better engine to turbo. If u already have the B16 in there, there is no point in putting the D16 back in there. Besides the B16 will handle more boost than a stock D will anyways. the D series will handle about 200 horsepower stock, and the B series engines will handle about 300 (a few exceptions to both obviously).


Oh ya def - plus the B16's high rev ability will be enhanced by all the torque y0
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Old 03-05-2004, 11:52 AM   #122
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well i wasnt going to put the d16 back but i was going to sell the car make some money then buy another civic with the stock d16 and just turbo it. Either way would be good.
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Old 03-05-2004, 01:01 PM   #123
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well i wasnt going to put the d16 back but i was going to sell the car make some money then buy another civic with the stock d16 and just turbo it. Either way would be good.


why? The B16 is a better motor than a D16.
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Old 03-05-2004, 08:27 PM   #124
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yeh its a good motor......i would probably just do it for the heck of it...and the greddy turbo kit for the d16 is cheaper than the b16 version..im pretty sure im going to keep it though im happy with it overall.
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Old 03-06-2004, 03:38 PM   #125
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A friend of mine has a supra that just ran a 10.4 in the quarter with a Greddy T66 unit. He now gets all the Greddy goodies at mad low prices - he said he could get me the parts i need from them for around 1k . . .
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Old 03-06-2004, 09:48 PM   #126
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what's your friends name? i need to talk to him..
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Old 03-06-2004, 11:44 PM   #127
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what's your friends name? i need to talk to him..


Ha - its funney, all these morons wanna talk to him cause he has 3 sick cars - a 91 Supra (10.4) Turbo Beetle (14.1) and a 96 Turbo Supra (11.6 @ 130) - i know the trap time for the 11.6 is high, but its because the car had stock rims, tires, and suspension and he couldnt get traction.

I know this guy threw the place where i Kickbox at - so i got an IN lol.
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Old 03-07-2004, 04:41 PM   #128
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This is why you should swap your Dseries.

This is a dyno sheet of a D16Z6 with AEM Cai, Chikara header, and a custom 2.5in exhaust.

http://www.honda-acura.net/forums/at...chmentid=21685

Here is a dynosheet for a B16A Sir I (the 160hp ver) with high flow cat, DC headers, Apexi ws, and AEM Cai.

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/pr...cc_civicengine *** Scroll down the page and Click the 3rd dynosheet located between the Intake and Header pics.
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Old 03-07-2004, 06:43 PM   #129
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without forced induction theyre both slow
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Old 03-07-2004, 07:19 PM   #130
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Yes, but one is much slower than the other . . . .

but yes, i too have come to the realization that the only way to have a honda that is also a monster, you need nawz or b00st.
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Old 03-10-2004, 07:18 PM   #131
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Yes, but one is much slower than the other . . . .

but yes, i too have come to the realization that the only way to have a honda that is also a monster, you need nawz or b00st.



I agree with this statement in one way, it is slower. However it starts out slower so what is the comparison? Might as well stayed stock on both and showed that.

Swap = $4k gaining 60hp B16a = 160whp

same on a D = $4k gaining about 130hp D16y8 = 210whp
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Old 03-10-2004, 07:26 PM   #132
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i dont know what place youre looking at where a b16 costs $4k...
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Old 03-10-2004, 07:42 PM   #133
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i dont know what place youre looking at where a b16 costs $4k...



. . . . . . . . . . . . well, if ur me lol




(not talkin about that)
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Old 03-10-2004, 10:44 PM   #134
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Its just numbers. Yeah, your right, that included a I/H/E in my figures, its still kinda steep, however w/ all installed it would be around that figure. I just kinda threw that out there in case someone wanted a to compare any B, sorry for the retardism.
I could also put a custom turbo kit on a D for like $1k and get that same hp so that was just a number also.
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Old 03-17-2004, 03:49 AM   #135
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Old 03-17-2004, 11:57 AM   #136
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fuck yeah, thats what I'm talking about, give that guy props for tuning a D to kick ass numbers.
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Old 04-01-2004, 05:31 PM   #137
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that's unbelieveable..... 16.5 with STOCK INTERNALS....
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Old 05-07-2004, 12:52 PM   #138
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okkk. Here is the final say to end all arguments here.
U can either turbo this anemic looking engine....

or u can go with this beast (minus the dirty valve cover of course)
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Old 05-07-2004, 03:43 PM   #139
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i like a/c
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Old 05-08-2004, 04:37 AM   #140
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i like a/c


hey man u can have a/c on an H22'd Civic. People have done it on H-T. It can be done. I was more joking than serious. Everyone has different ideas and tastes. I definately respect some D series builders (cuz I gave up a long time ago on that engine). I have seen some very fast D's. Definately faster than I thought they were capable of. As a matter of fact I saw an all-motor low 13 second D in a hatch the other day. Yes this car was a street car. Definately impressive for the D. Its just not for me man.
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Old 05-08-2004, 07:47 PM   #141
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yeah you can do it and keep a/c but you have to start doing even more custom stuff.

has anyone found out how to keep a/c and powersteering w/ the h22 swap?
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Old 05-09-2004, 04:07 AM   #142
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according to the people on H-T u can. I read about it I just wasnt really all that interested in it. It robs too much power for me It depends on the mounts u use. Also not many people know alot about the EK/EJ Civics. U see the thing is in the EK/EJ Civics the mounts are different and it mounts the engine in the bay differently than an EG Civic. In the EK/EJ they may even fit on stock locations with the HASPORT mounts, I dont know, I would have to look into that one. As far as EG Civics goes I know the HCP mounts actually mount the H22 farther back than the Hasport mounts. Hasports claim their mounts are engineered properly for axle placement. Although i havent heard anyone who has had any problems with the HCP mounts at all. I know it gives more clearance in the front using HCP mounts. I think HCP claims that u can have power steering and A/C with their mounts, dont quote me on that one (i never really looked into it). On the EG chassis with hasport mounts I know the A/C would have to be hooked up with custom brackets. The power steering from what I have heard will work in factory location. Hope I helped. This is something I never really researched all that much.
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Old 06-22-2004, 06:05 PM   #143
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DO you guys think it would be useless to turbo a D15? I get a lot of "yes you can's" and "no you shouldnt's"...I've been contemplating an engine swap but if I don't have to then I won't...
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Old 06-22-2004, 07:14 PM   #144
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depends on what your expectations are
of course you CAN
it will really wake the car up and you will be very happy with it (at least for a while...depending on the kind of person you are)

D's are fine engines. If youre not looking for 300whp its fine.
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Old 06-23-2004, 01:46 PM   #145
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What if I were looking to get 300whp?? Engine swap? I guess that's what I would end up doing after reading some of these posts...
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Old 06-23-2004, 04:24 PM   #146
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Ive seen that much out of a d series...but its a huge ordeal
gsr and h22 w/ turbo see 300 easy and ls and b16 can w/ a minor build
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Old 06-23-2004, 08:10 PM   #147
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WHat's gsr and H22...are those the types of engines offered?
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Old 06-23-2004, 08:24 PM   #148
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gsr - b18c1 - mid-end integra engine
h22 - prelude engine
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Old 06-23-2004, 11:58 PM   #149
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And those are pretty much the ones to get?
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Old 06-24-2004, 12:56 AM   #150
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depends on what your looking for. Right now you have a 1.5L engine the gsr would give you a 1.8L and the H22 would give you a 2.2L (Im pretty sure thats right about the gsr/h22) and as the saying goes theres no replacement for displacement which basicly means the bigger the motor you have the more power you can make overall but it will end up costing you more in the end. No one way is best its all depending on what you want/"need"/are looking for as well as how much you want to spend/how much you have etc
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Old 06-24-2004, 03:32 AM   #151
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why not go b18c5?? ya should notice the power difference immedatly should ya not??
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Old 06-24-2004, 09:55 AM   #152
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the c5 is a waste of money
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Old 06-24-2004, 12:25 PM   #153
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Why's it a waste of money? Little power for so much money?
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Old 06-24-2004, 01:41 PM   #154
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For the cost of a c5 you could just get a gsr motor and then upgrade to 98 spec ctr pistons and cams and have equal or more whp (motor depending)....and still have a few hundred $ to play around with.

Turbo it just doesnt make sense to me since the compression is already quite high and in order for it to be more turbo friendly lower compression pistsons need to be dropped in...thats just a waste of it being an itr motor. (therms is going to yell at me if he sees this)
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Old 06-24-2004, 02:49 PM   #155
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What cars naturally have c5's in it?
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Old 06-24-2004, 03:07 PM   #156
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integra type r (aka itr)
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Old 06-24-2004, 09:27 PM   #157
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Oh...ok...Im just learning about the engine stuff...sorry for the questions...
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Old 06-26-2004, 10:35 AM   #158
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Just want to put in my 2 cents.... H22 man! I will never go back!!!!!
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Old 06-26-2004, 11:00 AM   #159
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Oh...ok...Im just learning about the engine stuff...sorry for the questions...


No worries...thats what we're all here for
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Old 06-28-2004, 12:17 AM   #160
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Ok...here's what making me upset and embarrassed...I drove from Las Vegas to California to visit the peeps and everytime I drive up a hill...I have no horsepower and my car slows waaaaaayyyy down...now that's embarrassing...
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