Ok so here is the deal

Soon i hope to have about $5k do mess with....Me and my g/f worked out a plan for if i get this crazy $22 an hour job....I'm gonna buy her a car and go through mine with the 5k............soooooooooooo i can do a couple different things........

1 engine swap using the front clip for around $4k and build it as i go.....
2 less expensive engine for about 3k and go rims and drop

3 No swap...deck out the sohc Vtec with .030 over bore new intake,fuel rail,CAI,exhaust,injectors,fuelpump,cam gear,pulleys,carb,ignition,reworked head......wich will be around $3-$4k total......and still get some rims.....

4 mild mod the engine without the bore and reworked head....wich will be around $2k then rims,drop and paint and system



my engine has 120k miles on it......thats why i wanted to do the swap....but if i redo it......then it will be like there is less miles on it....and i could be sorta sleeper with my piddly little engine

[nonovurbizniz]

I'd tell your gf to get her own 22/hour job...

then I'd spend 10k on MY car with MY money...

do the swap with a build, drop it, put in a system, and rims... then you'll have a car that you'll be happy with instead of having half of what you want and a gf with a nice car you paid for.

I'm all for generosity and all but buying you gf a car? I don't get it. If I made 100k a year I wouldn't buy my gf a car... it'd take some harrasement for me to buy my wife a car.

[AzCivic]

Originally posted by sc0rch

my engine has 120k miles on it......thats why i wanted to do the swap....but if i redo it......then it will be like there is less miles on it....and i could be sorta sleeper with my piddly little engine

Doing a swap isnt neccesarily going to give you an engine/tranny thats in better shap then yours, could be worse.

well she drives a geo metro....wich isnt safe for my daughter...I shouldnt say g/f anymnore should be Fieance or however you spell it......and i dont want her driving around in that thing with my daughter in it........plus shes gettin a job now thats shes released but it's only $8hour cause shes still in nurse school and needs some experience in the field....

oh and it's not gonna be just 5k one time.....i can always buy stuff for it every week with a huge check.....so no big deal

Just wait till you get married... then it'll be $5 a week

[slowEJ6]

why not wait till you actually have the job.....and the money.\


anyway....just do a B series swap. none of this front clip shit.

[nonovurbizniz]

Originally posted by slowEJ6
why not wait till you actually have the job.....and the money.\


anyway....just do a B series swap. none of this front clip shit.

Part A is the best advice yet.... although I assume he wasn't planning on taking out a loan in anticipation of the new job... (if so don't)

Part B I think that's what he meant... I don't think he planned on cutting off the front clip of his car to weld in another... I think he meant he'd get a front clip and swap in the motor...

[wheresmylicense]

what engine gives you the most for your money (for a 97 civic)... ?

[slowEJ6]

but i mean.....why bother getting the front clip even in that case??? just get the motor.

the most for your money? H22A. however if you want it to be done the right way, it costs more - probably in about the b18c5 area.
the best for your money? imo - b18c5.

is b18c5 the LS motor?
because i think that the best motor is the LS motor because it is the easiest to turbo with out having to mess with the VTEC

hell no i'm not taking out a loan....i'm just looking for stuff and doing some debating for if i get this job......i'm very imnpatient and have to have shit done yesturday......thats why i get all in a hurry when i dont even have the funds yet......just wishfull thinking i guess.......

and the front clip.......it's the only way to get the whole subframe without crawling through a junkyard.....if i get the entire front clip i can just take the subframe and engine out and sell the rest.....like i said......since my subframe is weaker than the GSR or Type R then i would need to reinforce it anway...so why not just use the subframe from either wich with fit directly to my car and save time and # for welding and parts...

[slowEJ6]

your subframe can handle it just fine......you'll have to mod no matter what if you want a lot of power and doing a subframe swap is a complete waste of time AND money. havent you ever noticed that people do swaps all the time and DONT swap subframes???

and B18C5 is the usdm ITR motor.

NO b18c5 is an ITR (Integra Type-R) motor
B18C is the Integra GS-R motor
And a B18B is an LS motor...

for the 97 Civic dude... if i had the money i would put a GS-R engine in my car (B18C) then turbo it later on

GSR motor and Nitrous Oxide injection

[slowEJ6]

Originally posted by Mirkwo0dForest
NO b18c5 is an ITR (Integra Type-R) motor
B18C is the Integra GS-R motor
And a B18B is an LS motor...

B18C1 is the GSR motor.

Y turbo the GSR motor, dont u have to have the VTEC controller and all?
Isnt it better to not have to deal with that?
i have talked to several people and they all agree that the LS motor is the best to turbo, since it has lower compression than the b18C1 or b18c5