vtec light

N E 1 know how too do the VTEC light setup?

[pdiggitydogg]

dont bother...it comes on around 5400-5600...somewhere around there

[drdingo21]

it still would be kinda neat...mine somes on at 4500

whats a vtec light? pix?

[sohc_vtec 2NR]

its a little light that "lights up" when vtec kicks in...kinda neat i think...
here's a pix..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ategory=67 75

vtec kicks in @ 4500 in most civic

[sohc_vtec 2NR]

is it 5500 on a 99 civic ex?

[pdiggitydogg]

thats when mine turns on (97 ex)

Yea, 5500 in my '00 Si

I thought this mod was stupid, why would i want something else flashing on my dashboard, i mean my seat belt light is on, the check engine light is on, the oil preesure is on, the battery light comes on, the tach shift light comes on. hehe j/k.

just curious as to what the point is?

[thermal]

Here, make your own: http://jdmfan.com/technical/cosmetic/vtec_indicator/

Goodluck

[sohc_vtec 2NR]

thanks for the link..if only I wasn't so damn excited to get it, I could have saved some money...

[drdingo21]

iprobly would have got it if it wasn't 20...

My VTEC on my 01 civic comes on at 2500 rpms. 1.7L

[Racing Rice]

Originally posted by binner03
My VTEC on my 01 civic comes on at 2500 rpms. 1.7L

Are you 100% sure about that?!?! Stock? Or did you change it with a VTEC controller?

[Addict]

Originally posted by binner03
My VTEC on my 01 civic comes on at 2500 rpms. 1.7L

You sure about that one?

Originally posted by Racing Rice
Are you 100% sure about that?!?! Stock? Or did you change it with a VTEC controller?

lets HOPE he JUST has no idea what hes talking about..

[Racing Rice]

Originally posted by oc civic
lets HOPE he JUST has no idea what hes talking about..

We are!

Yes i know what i'm talking about.....i do work for a Honda Dealership here in South Jersey.....since it's a SOHC the VTECH kicks in muck sooner.....like at 2500rpm in a 01 Honda 1.7L

[TeriyakiBroccoli]

.. thats awfully early.. its practically running vtec the whole time. even while cruising on the freeway...


*cough*

[pdiggitydogg]

Oh I understand...binners got that more powerful VTECH rather than vtec...now it makes sense...

Theres no way...

Why are you guys breaking my balls.....lol....but seriously it does kick on at 2500....more powerful?.....yea right...the thing is dog sh*t of the line.

[94_AcCoRd_EX]

If it kicked in at 2500 RPMS, it would kind of ruin the point of the efficient VTEC on the SOHC engines. I find it hard to believe.

[Addict]

We're not trying to "break your balls". VTEC does not kick in at 2500 RPMs. Honda's are not low end power cars. All the power comes in the upper part of the RPM band, regardless of model/year.

Why would yout think it does? I'm just asking, not trying to be an ass. You must have some good reason to believe that.

[Racing Rice]

Why would honda change the new motors for VTEC to engage at 2500 rpms when the older ones didnt open until over 5000 rpms. Cruising at 65 miles and hour youd be sucking gas so bad you would think you were driving a V8.

We are just trying to tell you, that unless you changed it, its not a 2500 rpms. Honda motors are made for efficiency, there for would never do that out of the factory.

You may want to get a second opinion on the VTEC thing.

Just for sake of arguement, did you make a VTEC light, to verify that VTEC does kick in at 2500 rpms? The VTEC light should kick on when the VTEC solenoid activates I believe.

We arent trying to bust your balls, we just dont want wrong information running around. If you prove us wrong, we will be more then happy to agree with you.

as probably already stated vtec is a methos of adding some type of performance to an econobox car.... the reason vtec works is there are 2 distinct cam profile, that the car can choose from, the car bases this choice on RPMS.... one side is a VERY mild economical cam, and the other is a SLIGHTLY more aggresive cam, the car crosses over at such a high rpm (4800 + depending on model) so that you the driver gets the benifit of fuel economy, but can stil PUSH the car... if you were trying to accelerate you would stay in the gears longer (thus driving more aggresively) and you would reach that more aggresive cam... this is a VERY basic explanation.. there are a few other factors that determine if the car can engage vtec (oil pressure, engine temp, etc...) EVEN from a performance stand point (with a VAFC or similar unit) you would gain NOTHING by droping it so low, IN FACT you would probably damage the car..

K jackasses. This is the guy who hooked up the vtec light on Binner's car.

First thing I have to say is don't question what ur clueless about. If I have to prove this to yas it can be done. So if I prove it by a vid are yas gonna say he has a light on a switch? Do me a favor fellas. Do your homework, then take the foot outta your mouth.

And just to add to that...Do some research on his motor... D17A2. As in SOHC 1.7ltr VTEC-E...Know what that E stands for? Efficiency...Not to be confused with a DOHC Si performance motor.

Here's a simple little link for yas to checkout what it says about the Civic VTEC...

http://www.howstuffworks.com/framed..../vtec_faq.html

Here's a quik example of what I want u to read..
"The Civic HX, for example is really a VTEC-E (Efficiency), and is tuned for outstanding gas mileage. As the years progressed, Honda decided to tune a VTEC engine to be somewhere in the middle: both efficient and relatively powerful. This "mixed" VTEC is the one that has found it's way into the Accords, some Civics, and the Acura CL. Most VTECs are SOHC (or "Single Over Head Camshaft"), only the DOHC ("Dual Over Head Camshaft") VTEC engines are truly tuned for maximum performance."

Oh me oh my.........

[Addict]

Originally posted by binner03
K jackasses. This is the guy who hooked up the vtec light on Binner's car.

First thing I have to say is don't question what ur clueless about. If I have to prove this to yas it can be done. So if I prove it by a vid are yas gonna say he has a light on a switch? Do me a favor fellas. Do your homework, then take the foot outta your mouth.

Nice response. You might brush up on your english. I wasn't being a hardass or anything. I just asked why he thought it kicked in at 2500 RPM. If it does, you hooked up the light wrong or the car has some issues. Simple as that.

A video won't prove anything except that the light or car is malfunctioning.

[Addict]

Originally posted by binner03
And just to add to that...Do some research on his motor... D17A2. As in SOHC 1.7ltr VTEC-E...Know what that E stands for? Efficiency...Not to be confused with a DOHC Si performance motor.

Here's a simple little link for yas to checkout what it says about the Civic VTEC...

http://www.howstuffworks.com/framed..../vtec_faq.html

Here's a quik example of what I want u to read..
"The Civic HX, for example is really a VTEC-E (Efficiency), and is tuned for outstanding gas mileage. As the years progressed, Honda decided to tune a VTEC engine to be somewhere in the middle: both efficient and relatively powerful. This "mixed" VTEC is the one that has found it's way into the Accords, some Civics, and the Acura CL. Most VTECs are SOHC (or "Single Over Head Camshaft"), only the DOHC ("Dual Over Head Camshaft") VTEC engines are truly tuned for maximum performance."

Oh me oh my.........

Ok. So he now has an HX instead of an EX? Word of advice genius, don't talk about what you don't know.

The EX has the VTEC engine, the HX has the VTEC-E. What is your "article" supposed to prove? It has nothing to do with the D17 or VTEC engagement points.

If you don't believe me, feel free to check Honda's site here http://www.hondacars.com/models/mode...me=Civic+Coupe .

It isn't a question of why he thought it kicked in that early. It does. Plain and simple. And any idiot can hook up a vetec light. Runnig a LED off ur solenoid isn't rocket science.

Lemme ask u something here chief. U drive a Civic Si. When does urs kickin? lemme answer for you. It kicks in right when all these othewr misinformed people think it does. Around 4500+ RPMS. Which is true. Now ur Si DOHC Vtec is performance tuned. Which is why the need for the high RPM Vtec Activation. And then thewre are those with the SOHC VTEC-E. Who think they own a racecar but fail to realize they own a economy car. Are yas listening?? The D17 IS NOT A RACEMOTOR!!! IT'S A ECONOMY MOTOR!! AS IN NOT MEANT TO BE FAST. Hence the reason for an early vtec activation.

Read... Even the owners will admit it...

http://www.makuragi.s5.com/civic_02/

http://www.torontoracing.ca/video/tech_hndacodes.html

http://prelude.wz.cz/data/motors.htm

http://www.makuragi.s5.com/faq/honda/

http://www.honda.idv.tw/try/eu30207.htm

How many more do I have to throw at ya? I don't believe dealership sites. They are misinformative.

[Addict]

Originally posted by binner03
Lemme ask u something here chief. U drive a Civic Si. When does urs kickin? lemme answer for you. It kicks in right when all these othewr misinformed people think it does. Around 4500+ RPMS. Which is true. Now ur Si DOHC Vtec is performance tuned. Which is why the need for the high RPM Vtec Activation. And then thewre are those with the SOHC VTEC-E. Who think they own a racecar but fail to realize they own a economy car. Are yas listening?? The D17 IS NOT A RACEMOTOR!!! IT'S A ECONOMY MOTOR!! AS IN NOT MEANT TO BE FAST. Hence the reason for an early vtec activation.

4500? The VTEC point is 5500+/-.
Did I say the D17 was a race motor? No I didn't.

Originally posted by binner03
Read... Even the owners will admit it...

http://www.makuragi.s5.com/civic_02/
http://www.torontoracing.ca/video/tech_hndacodes.html
http://prelude.wz.cz/data/motors.htm
http://www.makuragi.s5.com/faq/honda/
http://www.honda.idv.tw/try/eu30207.htm

How many more do I have to throw at ya? I don't believe dealership sites. They are misinformative.

Admit to what?
Why are you acting so ignorant? The evidence is right there. The site I gave you is HONDA's site, not a dealership. Are you able to read big words? I would think that Honda would know what engine they put in their cars.

EX Coupe
With a high-performance 1.7-liter, 127-hp VTEC® engine and 15-inch wheels and tires, the Civic EX Coupe is near the top of its class.
HX Coupe
The Civic HX Coupe is an excellent combination of performance and efficiency. Its 1.7-liter, 117-hp VTEC®-E lean-burn engine is one of the most fuel-efficient around.

The first site on your list says nothing about the VTEC point. The second site barely loads.
The third & fourth site disagree on the engine types. So I wouldn't trust either source.

http://prelude.wz.cz/data/motors.htm
D17A1 1.7 SOHC VTEC-E ?? 95 kW '01 Civic EX
D17A2 1.7 SOHC VTEC-E ?? 95 kW '01+ Civic EX

http://www.makuragi.s5.com/faq/honda
D17A2- 1.7L SOHC VTEC-E- 01 Civic EX (127hp)
D17A1- 1.7L SOHC non-VTEC '01+ Civic DX/LX (115hp)

The final site shows a 4 door VTi. Whens the last time you saw one in America?

[TeriyakiBroccoli]

Make love not war.

Originally posted by binner03


How many more do I have to throw at ya? I don't believe dealership sites. They are misinformative.

you are BY FAR the DUMBEST person i have EVER encountered on the internet... you just take the ****ing cake... UN ****ING BELIEVEABLE... you are SO stupid i can't even laugh at you... im SAD at the amount of misinformation you are spewing...

[pdiggitydogg]

Originally posted by binner03
Read... Even the owners will admit it...

http://www.makuragi.s5.com/civic_02/

http://www.torontoracing.ca/video/tech_hndacodes.html

http://prelude.wz.cz/data/motors.htm

http://www.makuragi.s5.com/faq/honda/

http://www.honda.idv.tw/try/eu30207.htm

How many more do I have to throw at ya? I don't believe dealership sites. They are misinformative.

um...what do these personal pages have to do with anything??

[TonitrusEN]

this is the best thread ive ever read, and im glad oc speaks his mind, it makes it THAT much more enjoyable.. hahah .. fightfightfightfight

[sohc_vtec 2NR]

Originally posted by binner03
It isn't a question of why he thought it kicked in that early. It does. Plain and simple. And any idiot can hook up a vetec light. Runnig a LED off ur solenoid isn't rocket science.

Lemme ask u something here chief. U drive a Civic Si. When does urs kickin? lemme answer for you. It kicks in right when all these othewr misinformed people think it does. Around 4500+ RPMS. Which is true. Now ur Si DOHC Vtec is performance tuned. Which is why the need for the high RPM Vtec Activation. And then thewre are those with the SOHC VTEC-E. Who think they own a racecar but fail to realize they own a economy car. Are yas listening?? The D17 IS NOT A RACEMOTOR!!! IT'S A ECONOMY MOTOR!! AS IN NOT MEANT TO BE FAST. Hence the reason for an early vtec activation.

you say that the D17 is an economy motor then why would its vtec kick in at 2500 RPM...vtec would surely DECREASE the engine's fuel economy...the whole point behind vtec is to gain more power, and if you want more power u need to burn more fuel...and if you need more fuel then there's less miles per gallon...this in turn would make the D17 a gas drinkin' machine, not an economy motor...

this message is directed to the person that installed binner's vtec light...not to binner himself

i think http://www.makuragi.s5.com/civic_02/ has a shitty car and i want to embarrass him and you, if possible at the same time but one at a time would be equally befitting.