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07-21-2004, 09:15 PM

Just lookin for some thoughts on how to accomplish my goal of approximatly 200 HP to the wheels and I wanna do this with out
N20 and Turbo/Super, I got some dyno time scheduled next week after I get my Header and Exhaust all put on, so now I have the basic's CAI,Header,Downpipe,2 1/4 catback, and some underdrive pullys, any info would be greatly appreciated thanks for the Insperation guys and gals!!! PEACE

07-21-2004, 11:38 PM

Turbo or Supercharger...

You can get to 200hp n.a. as well, but it would take a lot more money and a lot more time.

Slap on a turbo and you'll have the power you want. That is the route I am taking.

07-22-2004, 06:22 AM

dpends on what u want. Nitrous is the cheapest and easiest way to make your goal. A good NX wet kit and a 75 shot will get u there with a few other bolt ons. As far as turbo kits goes they are expensive, but can be cheaper in the long run (dont have to fill up nitrous bottles). The only issue with turbo is u will have to get rid of that brand new header u just bought. Sounds like u dont want to do that. As far as naturally aspirated goes, 200 WHP D17 is very hard to build. After spending thousands and thousands of dollars building the bottom end, balancing it and throwing in a crazy high lift high duration cam, serious port job on the head (like a DPR stage 6), very high comression, and much much more u might make 200 WHP, but unfortunately it wont be streetable. It will be a drag only engine. I would reccomend some sort of forced induction if u want that power level out of a D series. As far as which one the choice is yours. THere are disadvantages and advantages to every one.

soundspeed · 07-22-2004, 03:20 PM

I could be mistaken, but I don't think there is a complete turbo kit for your car, so you would have to mix and match parts, and I haven't realy seen that many D17's with a turbo kit so who knows how well it would work. Like Honda_Tengoku said, a 200hp all motor D17 would not be streetable. I'd go with nitrous or see if jackson racing or vortech have a supercharger kit for your motor.

07-22-2004, 03:58 PM

http://www.turbo-kits.com/civic_turbo_kits.html

There is one for the D17... probably more out there, just have to dig deep enough.

07-22-2004, 04:30 PM

Turbo and N20 are the cheepest and streetable hmmm, what kind of motor swap would you guys suggest??? Thanks for the link to Tubo-kits, that is the only one I have found so far also, any one interested in a complete D17 with less than 6k on the odometer HAHA!! thanks guys!

*pdiggitydogg* · 07-22-2004, 04:40 PM

swap?
jdm k20 itr

2ndGenTeg · 07-22-2004, 05:29 PM

I've never seen a D series hit 200 WHP, all motor. Even with a B18C, expect to spend way more than you would on a turbo, and get half as much out of it.

If you want to build an all motor car, get a B18C. If you want to go turbo, get a B18A/B.

07-22-2004, 06:41 PM

hmmm

soundspeed · 07-22-2004, 08:17 PM

That's the first turbo kit I've ever seen for that motor, seems very complete. I agree with pdigg, if you do swap the motor go with that one.

*AzCivic* · 07-22-2004, 08:19 PM

just get a decent turbo kit and you'll have 200hp easily.

07-22-2004, 09:19 PM

Here's a off topic question for AzCivic or anyone that has LSD is a must have item or is it something that you really dont need I have wanted one for quite sometime now but it is really hard to find one for a 02 civic :( thanks

*pdiggitydogg* · 07-22-2004, 09:50 PM

its hard to find any performance parts for the 01+'s....since theyre not designed in anyway to be performance vehicles

I wouldnt call it a necessity...just something cool and functional

*AzCivic* · 07-23-2004, 12:45 AM

yeah, its good to have but don't worry about not having one, its not that big a deal. although its nice to feel the car pull through turns.

07-23-2004, 02:27 PM

I hear that

07-21-2004, 09:15 PM	#1
STL-A-KD-EX Posts: n/a	Want 200 HP at the wheel's... With a 1.7 Just lookin for some thoughts on how to accomplish my goal of approximatly 200 HP to the wheels and I wanna do this with out N20 and Turbo/Super, I got some dyno time scheduled next week after I get my Header and Exhaust all put on, so now I have the basic's CAI,Header,Downpipe,2 1/4 catback, and some underdrive pullys, any info would be greatly appreciated thanks for the Insperation guys and gals!!! PEACE

07-22-2004, 03:20 PM	#4
soundspeed Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Toronto Age: 45 Posts: 336	I could be mistaken, but I don't think there is a complete turbo kit for your car, so you would have to mix and match parts, and I haven't realy seen that many D17's with a turbo kit so who knows how well it would work. Like Honda_Tengoku said, a 200hp all motor D17 would not be streetable. I'd go with nitrous or see if jackson racing or vortech have a supercharger kit for your motor. __________________ Surgeon General Says: It's Okay To Smoke V8's The Only Replacement For Displacement...Is Technology

07-22-2004, 08:17 PM	#10
soundspeed Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Toronto Age: 45 Posts: 336	That's the first turbo kit I've ever seen for that motor, seems very complete. I agree with pdigg, if you do swap the motor go with that one. __________________ Surgeon General Says: It's Okay To Smoke V8's The Only Replacement For Displacement...Is Technology

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07-21-2004, 11:38 PM	#2
cmM_EX Posts: n/a	Turbo or Supercharger... You can get to 200hp n.a. as well, but it would take a lot more money and a lot more time. Slap on a turbo and you'll have the power you want. That is the route I am taking.

07-22-2004, 06:22 AM	#3
Honda_Tengoku Posts: n/a	dpends on what u want. Nitrous is the cheapest and easiest way to make your goal. A good NX wet kit and a 75 shot will get u there with a few other bolt ons. As far as turbo kits goes they are expensive, but can be cheaper in the long run (dont have to fill up nitrous bottles). The only issue with turbo is u will have to get rid of that brand new header u just bought. Sounds like u dont want to do that. As far as naturally aspirated goes, 200 WHP D17 is very hard to build. After spending thousands and thousands of dollars building the bottom end, balancing it and throwing in a crazy high lift high duration cam, serious port job on the head (like a DPR stage 6), very high comression, and much much more u might make 200 WHP, but unfortunately it wont be streetable. It will be a drag only engine. I would reccomend some sort of forced induction if u want that power level out of a D series. As far as which one the choice is yours. THere are disadvantages and advantages to every one.

07-22-2004, 03:58 PM	#5
cmM_EX Posts: n/a	http://www.turbo-kits.com/civic_turbo_kits.html There is one for the D17... probably more out there, just have to dig deep enough.

07-22-2004, 04:30 PM	#6
STL-A-KD-EX Posts: n/a	Turbo and N20 are the cheepest and streetable hmmm, what kind of motor swap would you guys suggest??? Thanks for the link to Tubo-kits, that is the only one I have found so far also, any one interested in a complete D17 with less than 6k on the odometer HAHA!! thanks guys!

07-22-2004, 04:40 PM	#7
pdiggitydogg Yahoo Watashi wa kattaze! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Meanwhile, up in The D... Age: 40 Posts: 10,579	swap? jdm k20 itr

07-22-2004, 05:29 PM	#8
2ndGenTeg 4th Gear Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Boulder, CO Age: 43 Posts: 830	I've never seen a D series hit 200 WHP, all motor. Even with a B18C, expect to spend way more than you would on a turbo, and get half as much out of it. If you want to build an all motor car, get a B18C. If you want to go turbo, get a B18A/B.

07-22-2004, 08:19 PM	#11
AzCivic Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Az Age: 43 Posts: 3,804	just get a decent turbo kit and you'll have 200hp easily.

07-22-2004, 09:19 PM	#12
STL-A-KD-EX Posts: n/a	Here's a off topic question for AzCivic or anyone that has LSD is a must have item or is it something that you really dont need I have wanted one for quite sometime now but it is really hard to find one for a 02 civic :( thanks

07-22-2004, 09:50 PM	#13
pdiggitydogg Yahoo Watashi wa kattaze! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Meanwhile, up in The D... Age: 40 Posts: 10,579	its hard to find any performance parts for the 01+'s....since theyre not designed in anyway to be performance vehicles I wouldnt call it a necessity...just something cool and functional

07-23-2004, 12:45 AM	#14
AzCivic Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Az Age: 43 Posts: 3,804	yeah, its good to have but don't worry about not having one, its not that big a deal. although its nice to feel the car pull through turns.