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ebpda9 · 12-05-2002, 08:39 PM

i was wondering what's the difference in performance betwee
the 2 engines listed above. don't tell me tat the i6 has the pistons inline and the v6 has them in v. i mean performance wise and why. Most of the true sports cars have an i6 inline: porche, nissan skyline, i think supra does too.

Kyle · 12-05-2002, 10:01 PM

This is just a guess...but i think that the v6 would probably produce more heat than the i6...

TeriyakiBroccoli · 12-05-2002, 10:02 PM

I thought porsche had the horizontal setup..... where pistons are pushing against each other like ---> this <----

Accord Man · 12-05-2002, 10:16 PM

You guys are kidding right?!

ebpda9 · 12-05-2002, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TeriyakiBroccoli
I thought porsche had the horizontal setup..... where pistons are pushing against each other like ---> this <----

that's called a boxer engine. subaru has them too, but to be a true boxer engine it has to be air cooled

Quote:

Originally posted by Accord Man
You guys are kidding right?!

kid about what ?

12-06-2002, 01:54 AM

Inline 6 make power much better and with much higher eff. They are also easier to turbo (skyline, supra) and make much better torque. On the other hand v6s are not without their place and if done right can be a better motor (grand national, 300zx, syclones) It really depends on the setup. but in my past experiences I will take a i6 anyday.

Accord Man · 12-06-2002, 08:55 AM

The biggest difference between I6's and their V6 counterparts is torque - I6's usually have considerably more torque available at lower rpm than their V6 counterparts, and they usually rev a bit lower, tho there are plenty of 7k rpm i6's out there...

Also, V's have more vibration than inline engines. Simply because of the ossolition involed. But more power can be transmitted and a lower CG can be achived. Also the take up less space.

Most common production car I6's are underpowered for what they are. The I6 layout is one of the best balanced configurations you can have, it's easier to dampen the forces acting on the block...maybe not coincidentally, some of the most robust blocks around are inline 6's (Chrysler 4.0, RB26DETT, 2JZGTE...)

If you're looking into getting an inline, you can turn them into pretty good performers. There's a website called cliffordperformance.com that specializes in straight sixes.

12-14-2002, 03:14 PM

Accord man hit the nail on the hed. More torque, less vibration. one thing i dont agree with is the revs. I know of very few v6's that can rev with an inline 6. I have no proof to support it other than the fact that i drive a ton of cars and the inline 6 is so smooth and likes to rev. You would almost think it was a rotory.

12-15-2002, 12:20 AM

My parents got a 2002 Envoy with the I6 7k redline 270hp it has no bottom end its all up high like around 4500 -5000 rpm's.
its a stock car (very heavy) and it ran a 15.9 1/4 (helped that dad did a Nutual 3k drop to drive and took off) But I love the I6 ' s much better.

*ChrisCantSkate* · 12-15-2002, 01:51 AM

accord man nailed it!

94_AcCoRd_EX · 12-15-2002, 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 96civicFL
My parents got a 2002 Envoy with the I6 7k redline 270hp it has no bottom end its all up high like around 4500 -5000 rpm's.
its a stock car (very heavy) and it ran a 15.9 1/4 (helped that dad did a Nutual 3k drop to drive and took off) But I love the I6 ' s much better.

Neutral drop in a new car.... guess he doesn't value the tranny much.

Rob · 12-15-2002, 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 94_AcCoRd_EX
Neutral drop in a new car.... guess he doesn't value the tranny much.

Accord Man · 12-15-2002, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Boosted3g
Accord man hit the nail on the hed. More torque, less vibration. one thing i dont agree with is the revs. I know of very few v6's that can rev with an inline 6. I have no proof to support it other than the fact that i drive a ton of cars and the inline 6 is so smooth and likes to rev. You would almost think it was a rotory.

Its not that they cant rev, its just that max power is achieved at lower rpm. Beyone which theres no use revving any higher..

nonovurbizniz · 12-15-2002, 07:23 PM

also just fyi the boxer engine is in a porsche and the pistons go like this:
[--0--]
They used to be air-cooled but are not anymore.
the subaru's also use a "boxer" engine. Air cooling has nothing to due with being a boxer motor. it is called a boxer motor becaus if you look at any two pistons on a side the are going back and forth like a boxer. The advantages of a boxer engine are a lower center of gravity because the heads and the cams and the pistons are all on a flat plane inline with the crank.

CC means cumbustion chamber.
Boxer 6:
Head CC Piston Rod Crank Rod Piston CC Head

Inline 6
Head
C.C
Piston
Rod
Crank

V6
head head
CC CC
Piston Piston
Rod Rod
Crank

*ChrisCantSkate* · 12-15-2002, 10:43 PM

the old VW beetles were true air-cooled boxer engines

nonovurbizniz · 12-16-2002, 12:36 PM

ya word that's where the porsche engine came from. vw/porsche/audi all the same cars.

Accord Man · 12-16-2002, 09:13 PM

Dr. Ing. hc Ferdinand Porsche...

ebpda9 · 12-16-2002, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Accord Man
Dr. Ing. hc Ferdinand Porsche...

What ? VW/Audi/porche are the same company under VW AG

nonovurbizniz · 12-16-2002, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hondaman-iac
What ? VW/Audi/porche are the same company under VW AG

I'm not sure what your asking but... ya essentially porcshe vw and audi are all the same...

there are certain model vw's that share chassis with porsche's (only 1 i think and it was short run but regardless) same with vw/audi.

they're all connected. how tight that connection is legally or historically I have no idea.

12-05-2002, 08:39 PM	#1
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 43 Posts: 17,266	I6 vs V6 i was wondering what's the difference in performance betwee the 2 engines listed above. don't tell me tat the i6 has the pistons inline and the v6 has them in v. i mean performance wise and why. Most of the true sports cars have an i6 inline: porche, nissan skyline, i think supra does too. __________________

12-05-2002, 10:01 PM	#2
Kyle elyK Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: New Braunfels, TX Age: 37 Posts: 3,390	This is just a guess...but i think that the v6 would probably produce more heat than the i6... __________________ IGNORE THE FACTS EXPLORE THE TRUTH

12-05-2002, 10:02 PM	#3
TeriyakiBroccoli 5th Gear Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Orange County, Southern California Age: 38 Posts: 1,490	I thought porsche had the horizontal setup..... where pistons are pushing against each other like ---> this <---- __________________ everyone loves the turbizzim.

12-05-2002, 10:16 PM	#4
Accord Man THE GENERAL Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Earth (usually) Age: 41 Posts: 5,698	You guys are kidding right?! __________________ HondaStyle.com Babysitter's Club Member #0 Soon to be >Dr Max Immuh<

12-06-2002, 08:55 AM	#7
Accord Man THE GENERAL Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Earth (usually) Age: 41 Posts: 5,698	The biggest difference between I6's and their V6 counterparts is torque - I6's usually have considerably more torque available at lower rpm than their V6 counterparts, and they usually rev a bit lower, tho there are plenty of 7k rpm i6's out there... Also, V's have more vibration than inline engines. Simply because of the ossolition involed. But more power can be transmitted and a lower CG can be achived. Also the take up less space. Most common production car I6's are underpowered for what they are. The I6 layout is one of the best balanced configurations you can have, it's easier to dampen the forces acting on the block...maybe not coincidentally, some of the most robust blocks around are inline 6's (Chrysler 4.0, RB26DETT, 2JZGTE...) If you're looking into getting an inline, you can turn them into pretty good performers. There's a website called cliffordperformance.com that specializes in straight sixes. __________________ HondaStyle.com Babysitter's Club Member #0 Soon to be >Dr Max Immuh<

12-06-2002, 01:54 AM	#6
BlazinCrx Posts: n/a	Inline 6 make power much better and with much higher eff. They are also easier to turbo (skyline, supra) and make much better torque. On the other hand v6s are not without their place and if done right can be a better motor (grand national, 300zx, syclones) It really depends on the setup. but in my past experiences I will take a i6 anyday.

12-14-2002, 03:14 PM	#8
Boosted3g Posts: n/a	Accord man hit the nail on the hed. More torque, less vibration. one thing i dont agree with is the revs. I know of very few v6's that can rev with an inline 6. I have no proof to support it other than the fact that i drive a ton of cars and the inline 6 is so smooth and likes to rev. You would almost think it was a rotory.

12-15-2002, 12:20 AM	#9
96civicFL Posts: n/a	My parents got a 2002 Envoy with the I6 7k redline 270hp it has no bottom end its all up high like around 4500 -5000 rpm's. its a stock car (very heavy) and it ran a 15.9 1/4 (helped that dad did a Nutual 3k drop to drive and took off) But I love the I6 ' s much better.

12-15-2002, 01:51 AM	#10
ChrisCantSkate Thought Police Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: orlando florida Age: 40 Posts: 9,662	accord man nailed it! __________________ Black Vtec Prelude-h22a power'd Many dreams come true, and some have silver linings. I live for my dreams and a pocket full of gold.

12-15-2002, 07:23 PM	#14
nonovurbizniz Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: ECUSA Age: 46 Posts: 2,693	also just fyi the boxer engine is in a porsche and the pistons go like this: [--0--] They used to be air-cooled but are not anymore. the subaru's also use a "boxer" engine. Air cooling has nothing to due with being a boxer motor. it is called a boxer motor becaus if you look at any two pistons on a side the are going back and forth like a boxer. The advantages of a boxer engine are a lower center of gravity because the heads and the cams and the pistons are all on a flat plane inline with the crank. CC means cumbustion chamber. Boxer 6: Head CC Piston Rod Crank Rod Piston CC Head Inline 6 Head C.C Piston Rod Crank V6 head head CC CC Piston Piston Rod Rod Crank __________________ I am an A$$hole... take anything I say to heart at YOUR OWN RISK...

12-15-2002, 10:43 PM	#15
ChrisCantSkate Thought Police Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: orlando florida Age: 40 Posts: 9,662	the old VW beetles were true air-cooled boxer engines __________________ Black Vtec Prelude-h22a power'd Many dreams come true, and some have silver linings. I live for my dreams and a pocket full of gold.

12-16-2002, 12:36 PM	#16
nonovurbizniz Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: ECUSA Age: 46 Posts: 2,693	ya word that's where the porsche engine came from. vw/porsche/audi all the same cars. __________________ I am an A$$hole... take anything I say to heart at YOUR OWN RISK...

12-16-2002, 09:13 PM	#17
Accord Man THE GENERAL Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Earth (usually) Age: 41 Posts: 5,698	Dr. Ing. hc Ferdinand Porsche... __________________ HondaStyle.com Babysitter's Club Member #0 Soon to be >Dr Max Immuh<

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