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Old 04-10-2003, 05:56 PM   #1
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Shared components..

Still suck, right?
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Old 04-10-2003, 06:10 PM   #2
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what do u mean ? modem, audio, video and cobos like that ? well they phucking suck. i'll never get anything with combos unless i'm at subway
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Old 04-10-2003, 08:01 PM   #3
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yeah..

video,audio,lan,modem and shit..


it seems its not as sucky as what it used to be.. especially for audio..
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Old 04-10-2003, 08:47 PM   #4
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well i like to be able to change my own stuff and not have conflicts when i do it like on my old amd k6-2 ( i know the shame of amd)
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Old 04-10-2003, 09:02 PM   #5
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if you want to add stuff, you just disable the shared component. .

Amd.. right now I have a Duron 800, and it runs soo smooth..
Anyways, I need a new one, cause my little bro is on a P100.. so I'll give him the 800, and I'll take the XP2000(or whatever processor speed I decide to get)..
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Old 04-13-2003, 09:09 PM   #6
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They aren't horrible. I have a dual AMD board with onboard lan/sound and it works pretty well. I can also disable them and put in separate cards if I feel like it.
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Old 04-13-2003, 10:29 PM   #7
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well se, I'm planning on going with a Asus A7V8X.. with onboard lan+audio..

I need heavy duty audio support (since I work alot with music related stuff), so I'm guessing the audio wont cut it..

but the Lan should be ok, from what I heard..

Now can someone confirme that these shared components wont use cpu processor power or cpu ram?!
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Old 04-14-2003, 07:36 AM   #8
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They will use CPU power. Thats the nature of PCI components. All integrated components will still use the PCI bus.

Its minimal at that. It was a big deal when we only had 166MHz to work with. But the the GHz machines don't flinch.

The audio is probably decent for most people. But if you do music & such, you'll want a good card to handle it. The LAN is probably sufficent though.
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ok.. from what I understand, some integrated components are software based and others are hardware based.. and software based is what grabs cpu ressources.. Not the hardware based stuff..

then again, how do I know whats software/hardware based?!
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ok.. from what I understand, some integrated components are software based and others are hardware based.. and software based is what grabs cpu ressources.. Not the hardware based stuff..

then again, how do I know whats software/hardware based?!

All of your integrated components will use CPU power. The only types of add-ons that typically do not use your existing CPU are generally SCSI cards(high end versions, low end still use system processor), audio cards & some modems.

Usually a product will state whether it uses an onboard processor or not. Or whether its hardware based. If it doesn't state either, then its software based.
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-Audio-
Realtek 6-channel CODEC
S/PDIF in/out interface

humm, I dont like "codec" too much.. So ok, purely sofware.

-LAN-
Broadcom® 10/100 Mbps or 1000 Mbps Ethernet controller
this looks ok..


this is the board: http://usa.asus.com/mb/socketa/a7v8x/specification.htm
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We use onboard NICS on all of our new machines.. They work fine. Everything else is pretty much what Addict said.
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The Realtek audio is so-so, regardless of whether its 6 channel or not. It may hold you over until you get a better card though.
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right now I have an SB live from 2001, they were 4ch..

and it does everything I need it to do..

how does the realtek compare to my current one?
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right now I have an SB live from 2001, they were 4ch..

and it does everything I need it to do..

how does the realtek compare to my current one?


Its nice because of the 6 channels. Other than that, the SB live is better.
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Old 04-14-2003, 12:35 PM   #16
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ah crap.. I dont need 6ch.. ok anyways, I'll give it a try and if its isnt enough, then I'll get a new Live5.1..


Again, thanks for your advice! I'll be buying in early May, so if anything comes up, that I should know of, please let me know.

one week before I buy, I'll probably start a thread with the breakdown of what components I'm getting.. just for criticism..
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one week before I buy, I'll probably start a thread with the breakdown of what components I'm getting.. just for criticism..

a very good idea
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a very good idea



so it shall be..
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