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03-26-2003, 01:28 PM

I have a 2ghz AthlonXP which i build a while back, i get freaked out cause my computer is a straight up heater that actually heats my room (the last computer i built for myself was a 400 k6-2 which was fast at the time...) . I get around 60-65*C from the fan sensor, is that good? I have a case fan, two extra fans that blow in and suck out air, and the stock cpu heatsink and fan.

03-27-2003, 08:24 AM

I would say 60-65C shouldn't be a huge concern. Usually modern processors are designed to run at least up to 80C without issues. If you don't get stability problems then there's nothing to worry about....unless of course you want to keep it for 20 years. The hotter it runs the more likely you are to get EM problems, if you get EM eventually the processor will "break"....but that'll usually take a while if you're within spec.

Check AMD's website to see what spec is on the processor heat. I know that the old Intel Celerons were good up to 70C by spec.

Also, the number of fans you have has no bearing on your temp unless you have proper thermal design. Adding fans can actually increase temperatures in regions.....so beware.

b

drdingo21 · 03-28-2003, 04:21 PM

60 is incredibly hot. When i use to use a heatsink and fan i got temps of no more than 40. Now i get temps no more than 30. Try reseating you heatsink, and only using a very thin layer of thermal grease. Also rub that crap off the bottom of the heatsink.

BTW the amd chips cook at 90

03-28-2003, 05:48 PM

im looking into a coolermaster i heard they're really great , but i donno if i want to spend 30 for a better heatsink...i'd rather get an oil change or something, heh heh.... so what are you guys runnin in your computer(s)?

drdingo21 · 03-28-2003, 08:19 PM

im using watercooling. There are more than a couple great heatsinks for under 20.

03-28-2003, 09:23 PM

wow, watercooling? sounds expensive

drdingo21 · 03-28-2003, 09:45 PM

if you buy a kit its like $200. I built mine fore under $60 though....its almost perfectly silent and i get awesome temps.

03-29-2003, 09:00 AM

60-65 is quite hot. you really should get that under control.

i would suggest an SK7 from Thermalright. Thermalright is by far the best heatsink manufacturer right now. The SK7 will give you all the features of the really expensive heatsinks but for only 20 bucks.

just so you know i am running a 2100+ (1733mhz) at 2500mhz and my load temp with the Thermalright SLK800 heatsink is just under 50. Quite good for an overclock of that magnitude.

with watercooling the kits are almost always not the best way to go. sure it takes the guesswork out of it but then you don't know why you have what parts you have and likely don't know what they are made out of. I have pieced my own watercooling setup together and it should run around 185 all said and done. Hopefully I'll be able to get that here in the near future.

94_AcCoRd_EX · 03-30-2003, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Maxvla
60-65 is quite hot. you really should get that under control.

i would suggest an SK7 from Thermalright. Thermalright is by far the best heatsink manufacturer right now. The SK7 will give you all the features of the really expensive heatsinks but for only 20 bucks.\
with watercooling the kits are almost always not the best way to go. sure it takes the guesswork out of it but then you don't know why you have what parts you have and likely don't know what they are made out of. I have pieced my own watercooling setup together and it should run around 185 all said and done. Hopefully I'll be able to get that here in the near future.

Ditto

03-31-2003, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 94_AcCoRd_EX
Ditto

copy cat!

03-31-2003, 02:11 PM

Really if it's stable there isn't tons to worry about unless you plan on keeping it for many years to come.

drdingo: When you make a claim of 30 it would be nice to see "with watercooling" next to it....I was thinking you were getting 30 with juts a HS/fan combo.

Be sure to use a good thermal grease or else you aren't helping enough. I believe ArcticSilver or something like that is one of the highest recommended ones.

b

ohiochica · 03-31-2003, 05:32 PM

ummmm i only have a fan in mine and i get temps of 32-42c.

ebpda9 · 03-31-2003, 06:08 PM

how do i measure the temp on an intel cpu ????

94_AcCoRd_EX · 03-31-2003, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hondaman-iac
how do i measure the temp on an intel cpu ????

You can download motherboard monitor if your mobo supports it.

I think its:
http://mbm5.livedev.com or something like that.

04-01-2003, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hondaman-iac
how do i measure the temp on an intel cpu ????

Your motherboard must have a thermal sensor under the CPU (assuming a PGA package) for you to check the temp. The CPU is aware of its own temperature, but to date I'm not aware of any Intel CPUs broadcasting their temps to the outside world.

You may be able to get a HS/fan with a built-in thermal sensor, I'm not sure, but you'd run into calibration problems.

b

04-02-2003, 05:40 AM

oookay, i finally figured it out: i peaked 71*C the other night (using mbm5 btw), i got super pissed! I shut of the computer and busted open the pannels. apparently, i did a great job covering up the open spaces so that the fans where the only way air could get it, but most of all, I blame it on the stupid design of my desk. its one of those desks that have a place for your tower, but no fresh air can get through, so i removed it, and now i have more leg room and my computer sits on the floor. Now i get around 50*C but no more than 60*C. im still looking into a better heatsink though, but i feel a bit better now. thanks guys

04-02-2003, 10:46 AM

Yeah proper airflow is useful.

Bear in mind that other parts of the computer can suffer from high heat, a cool CPU doesn't mean the HD is nice and cool......personally I care more about HD than anything else.

Make sure MBM is calibrated for the correct thermal sensor or else you'll get bum readings.

b

03-26-2003, 01:28 PM	#1
rakugaki Posts: n/a	normal temp for cpu I have a 2ghz AthlonXP which i build a while back, i get freaked out cause my computer is a straight up heater that actually heats my room (the last computer i built for myself was a 400 k6-2 which was fast at the time...) . I get around 60-65*C from the fan sensor, is that good? I have a case fan, two extra fans that blow in and suck out air, and the stock cpu heatsink and fan.

03-31-2003, 05:32 PM	#12
ohiochica Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: youngstown ohio Age: 45 Posts: 848	ummmm i only have a fan in mine and i get temps of 32-42c. __________________ to all our military: my thoughts and prayers are with you, come home safe and come home soon. Ohio HST members please read this

03-31-2003, 06:08 PM	#13
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03-27-2003, 08:24 AM	#2
spoogenet Posts: n/a	I would say 60-65C shouldn't be a huge concern. Usually modern processors are designed to run at least up to 80C without issues. If you don't get stability problems then there's nothing to worry about....unless of course you want to keep it for 20 years. The hotter it runs the more likely you are to get EM problems, if you get EM eventually the processor will "break"....but that'll usually take a while if you're within spec. Check AMD's website to see what spec is on the processor heat. I know that the old Intel Celerons were good up to 70C by spec. Also, the number of fans you have has no bearing on your temp unless you have proper thermal design. Adding fans can actually increase temperatures in regions.....so beware. b

03-28-2003, 04:21 PM	#3
drdingo21 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Elkhart, IN Age: 41 Posts: 1,642	60 is incredibly hot. When i use to use a heatsink and fan i got temps of no more than 40. Now i get temps no more than 30. Try reseating you heatsink, and only using a very thin layer of thermal grease. Also rub that crap off the bottom of the heatsink. BTW the amd chips cook at 90

03-28-2003, 05:48 PM	#4
rakugaki Posts: n/a	im looking into a coolermaster i heard they're really great , but i donno if i want to spend 30 for a better heatsink...i'd rather get an oil change or something, heh heh.... so what are you guys runnin in your computer(s)?

03-28-2003, 08:19 PM	#5
drdingo21 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Elkhart, IN Age: 41 Posts: 1,642	im using watercooling. There are more than a couple great heatsinks for under 20.

03-28-2003, 09:23 PM	#6
rakugaki Posts: n/a	wow, watercooling? sounds expensive

03-28-2003, 09:45 PM	#7
drdingo21 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Elkhart, IN Age: 41 Posts: 1,642	if you buy a kit its like $200. I built mine fore under $60 though....its almost perfectly silent and i get awesome temps.

03-29-2003, 09:00 AM	#8
Maxvla Posts: n/a	60-65 is quite hot. you really should get that under control. i would suggest an SK7 from Thermalright. Thermalright is by far the best heatsink manufacturer right now. The SK7 will give you all the features of the really expensive heatsinks but for only 20 bucks. just so you know i am running a 2100+ (1733mhz) at 2500mhz and my load temp with the Thermalright SLK800 heatsink is just under 50. Quite good for an overclock of that magnitude. with watercooling the kits are almost always not the best way to go. sure it takes the guesswork out of it but then you don't know why you have what parts you have and likely don't know what they are made out of. I have pieced my own watercooling setup together and it should run around 185 all said and done. Hopefully I'll be able to get that here in the near future.

03-31-2003, 02:11 PM	#11
spoogenet Posts: n/a	Really if it's stable there isn't tons to worry about unless you plan on keeping it for many years to come. drdingo: When you make a claim of 30 it would be nice to see "with watercooling" next to it....I was thinking you were getting 30 with juts a HS/fan combo. Be sure to use a good thermal grease or else you aren't helping enough. I believe ArcticSilver or something like that is one of the highest recommended ones. b

04-02-2003, 05:40 AM	#16
rakugaki Posts: n/a	oookay, i finally figured it out: i peaked 71C the other night (using mbm5 btw), i got super pissed! I shut of the computer and busted open the pannels. apparently, i did a great job covering up the open spaces so that the fans where the only way air could get it, but most of all, I blame it on the stupid design of my desk. its one of those desks that have a place for your tower, but no fresh air can get through, so i removed it, and now i have more leg room and my computer sits on the floor. Now i get around 50C but no more than 60*C. im still looking into a better heatsink though, but i feel a bit better now. thanks guys

04-02-2003, 10:46 AM	#17
spoogenet Posts: n/a	Yeah proper airflow is useful. Bear in mind that other parts of the computer can suffer from high heat, a cool CPU doesn't mean the HD is nice and cool......personally I care more about HD than anything else. Make sure MBM is calibrated for the correct thermal sensor or else you'll get bum readings. b