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Old 03-23-2004, 04:05 PM   #1
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Accord vs Crown victroy v8

HI guys , I just beat my firend Crown Victroy

mine is accord 2004 k24a4 and h is CV model 1996 v8

We tried everything from stop to 160 km/h

40 km/h to 160

60
80
100

it's all in km/h not mile sorry guys may car is not us based

We try it at a long high way evening today
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Old 03-23-2004, 05:10 PM   #2
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Re: Accord vs Crown victroy v8

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HI guys , I just beat my firend Crown Victroy

mine is accord 2004 k24a4 and h is CV model 1996 v8

We tried everything from stop to 160 km/h

40 km/h to 160

60
80
100

it's all in km/h not mile sorry guys may car is not us based

We try it at a long high way evening today


lol wtf is a stream? is that the minivan??
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Old 03-23-2004, 07:43 PM   #3
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cool can you post a pic of the crown vic and of your car
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Old 03-24-2004, 08:44 PM   #4
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I think many people here do not what is a Honda Stream
it looks like this one





Power is Excatly Same as Honda Civic Si 2002-up

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Old 03-24-2004, 09:18 PM   #5
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the pictures do not work maybe you have the hyeprtext information link wrong
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Old 03-24-2004, 10:15 PM   #6
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so it is like an si wagon? that i think is pimp!
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Old 03-24-2004, 10:37 PM   #7
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cant go wrong with right-hand drive!! defs a pimpin wagon man.
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Old 03-25-2004, 10:46 AM   #8
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no it's left hand drive but I didn't find another pic for it , we are not same as the stupid english cars right handed
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Old 03-25-2004, 12:54 PM   #9
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Its equipped with the K24 engine which is the same engine in the CRV.
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Old 03-26-2004, 12:27 AM   #10
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no it's same as Civic Si 2002 and up , k20a3
that's mine my Mods Turbos computer flashing chips etc all same as civic si

but suspion tires brackes are diffrent , due to the diffrent size
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Old 03-26-2004, 12:28 AM   #11
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Guys I'm talking about my HOnda Stream 2002 si not the honda accord

I own a honda Accord it's same as USA v , it's k24a4
so don't think the above post for the accord ok
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Old 03-26-2004, 07:25 AM   #12
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This K stuff is confusing,

So the accord has the same engine as a CRV? I'm guessing the E.C.U is diff.

What's the engine in the old SI?
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Old 03-26-2004, 11:20 AM   #13
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argh , I'm not tlaking about something diffrent in the accord

Accord I got here same as USA car no diffrence k24a4 engine

And the other car I have Honda Stream is not avilable at USA and it uses the Civic Si Engine ( k20a3 )

I hope this is clear and sorry for making you guys missing thnigs toghter
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Old 03-26-2004, 11:27 AM   #14
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I have a heard time believing the Accord beat a Crown Vic.. Sounds like the driver of the Crown Vic didn't know how to drive. The V6 2004 Accord is pushing less than 300hp to the wheels and the Crown Vic V8 should be pushing way more than that.
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Old 03-26-2004, 01:48 PM   #15
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I have a heard time believing the Accord beat a Crown Vic.. Sounds like the driver of the Crown Vic didn't know how to drive. The V6 2004 Accord is pushing less than 300hp to the wheels and the Crown Vic V8 should be pushing way more than that.


Accord V6 has good specs

Accord is much lighter, maybe its manual.

Accord if manual has better transmission(Honda has good transmission).

Accord's engine require's less torque to get it working.

I can see how an Accord beats a Crown vic

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Old 03-28-2004, 05:05 AM   #16
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Will when I beat him , his car seems to have a crappy trainsmisson it shifrs very slow , and at wheel start it seems to be like a bus , other things it's speed is limited at 100 m/h

will

the accord shifts very very fast ( very low lag time ) no wheel spin , DOHC engine ( i-VETC ) , much lighter , much much better Drag air flow for the body and for the engine ,,,


so don't think it's all about horespower and toruqe many other factors effect the car performance ,
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Old 03-28-2004, 11:35 AM   #17
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Will when I beat him , his car seems to have a crappy trainsmisson it shifrs very slow , and at wheel start it seems to be like a bus , other things it's speed is limited at 100 m/h

will

the accord shifts very very fast ( very low lag time ) no wheel spin , DOHC engine ( i-VETC ) , much lighter , much much better Drag air flow for the body and for the engine ,,,


so don't think it's all about horespower and toruqe many other factors effect the car performance ,
True but...... Crown Vics are still pretty damn fast and aerodynamics don't play that big a roll at those speeds. The extra weight of the Crown Vic is more than accounted for in the extra displacement. DOHC doesn't make that big a difference either when comparing an Accord to a Crown Vic. Unless I am wrong. Someone please let me know if I am.
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Old 03-28-2004, 01:52 PM   #18
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Oh its got DOHC, SO its probably the K series so its a 4 cylinder,

I don't think the 4 cylinder can beat the crown vic.

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Old 03-28-2004, 02:14 PM   #19
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jesus you guys are missing the point here.....Not all K series are 4's the k24 ares the the ones in the pilot ( i think) the element and something else. The tq is way higher than the 4's the crown vic isnt really all that fast if he was in his accord the vic would stop before he(accord) was out of 3rd gear. I bet the accord could take it not the si ("stream"sorry im in the us) Also i dont think the us v6 accord has the K24 because it is a 3 litre vtech engin......
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the geekz0r (11:03:46 PM): basicly, look at it this way...the 6speed is the same is the 5speed in 2,3,4,5,and 6...only the speeds are different because of the fd
the geekz0r (11:04:16 PM): so 2nd pulls like 1st in the 5speed, 3rd is like 2nd, etc.
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Old 03-28-2004, 08:01 PM   #20
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so your saying what?
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Old 03-28-2004, 08:07 PM   #21
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he is isaying that even though the crown visc is fast the honda is a lot faster because well its a honda lol

it is not hard at all to believe the accord would win
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Old 03-28-2004, 08:11 PM   #22
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he is isaying that even though the crown visc is fast the honda is a lot faster because well its a honda lol

it is not hard at all to believe the accord would win
You are already on your second chance. Don't screw this up too by just shamelessly and ricefully plugging Honda's in every situation you encounter. For the record a stock '87 Civic Hatchback will not beat an '04 GTS Viper, contrary to what you may have heard.
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You are already on your second chance. Don't screw this up too by just shamelessly and ricefully plugging Honda's in every situation you encounter. For the record a stock '87 Civic Hatchback will not beat an '04 GTS Viper, contrary to what you may have heard.


jesus i was just about to lay into him for me sticking up for him and then he does this....thank you. I was saying that as soon as you guys heard of the K series that you thought of the 4's. I understand that i have never heard of a "tricked out" element with the k24 makeing 300 hp or tq...
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the geekz0r (11:03:46 PM): basicly, look at it this way...the 6speed is the same is the 5speed in 2,3,4,5,and 6...only the speeds are different because of the fd
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Ok, I gotcha now. I totally agree.
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Old 03-29-2004, 07:27 AM   #25
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I thought he has an accord not a pilot?

Honda's v6 engines come sohc not dual.

Maybe its modified?
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I thought he has an accord not a pilot?

Honda's v6 engines come sohc not dual.

Maybe its modified?


No i think that dingos V6 is dual....not single

he dont have a pilot he has the accord and si (stream whatever )
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Old 03-29-2004, 10:14 PM   #27
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This wouldn't suprise me at all. The Crown Vic's motor isn't too strong (less than 300hp...that's what the Marauders had...302hp I believe) and, since it's a luxobarge, it's at a huge weight disadvantage. Either way you cut it, the Vic's not exactly a sports car.
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Old 03-29-2004, 10:42 PM   #28
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he is isaying that even though the crown visc is fast the honda is a lot faster because well its a honda lol

it is not hard at all to believe the accord would win


Does anyone else get the idea this guy is just a troll??? I mean is there ANYONE who talks like this about a honda civic.. does he really think his honda is a street machine??
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Old 03-30-2004, 01:33 PM   #29
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Anybody know the specs on a montecarlo ss?

is it based on a nascar?
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Which gen Monte SS? My roommate is a Monte SS freak. The newer ones (like within the last year or two) have the deathless blown 3.8L motor you'll find in a Grand Prix GTP and the newer Impala SS's. I believe those are making 240hp or so. Slightly older ones made something like 200hp from a N/A 3.8L. The gen before (the '82-'87 models, I believe) that got the oh so wonderful LG4 305 that belted out a whopping 180hp. They are in no way, shape, or form connected to the NASCAR cars save for the name (but that's the way things go in NASCAR). The closest resemblence to the NASCAR vehicles were the '86-'87 Aerocoupes...just a regular SS with a longer sloping back windshield (which actually made it slower due to the window's ridiculous weight). Any way you split it, the Montes aren't major players.
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Old 03-30-2004, 01:49 PM   #31
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I heard Nascars, weigh the same as a civics
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Old 04-02-2004, 01:21 AM   #32
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argh , I'm not tlaking about something diffrent in the accord

Accord I got here same as USA car no diffrence k24a4 engine

And the other car I have Honda Stream is not avilable at USA and it uses the Civic Si Engine ( k20a3 )

I hope this is clear and sorry for making you guys missing thnigs toghter


A stock Crown Victoria from '96 had about 190 - 210 hp I think (I might be wrong, I'm more educated with the 5.0 and 5.8L panthers). In '98 they went to a much better cylinder head design, but like someone pointed out already, Crown Victorias are made for comfortable cruising, not racing.

They can be made to be pretty fast though. The '93 - '97 Vics were also a little bit lighter than the generation before and after it (something like 3800lbs!), making them the most ideal of the panther platform Fords for hot rodding.

I know of Crown Victorias in the mid 12's, but they are not stock.

DOHC makes a difference in the top-end performance of an engine. The 4.6L V8 in the modern Crown Victorias make ~230-240hp, while the DOHC 4.6L V8 in the Marauder makes 302hp. Only differences really are the heads (with the valves and cams and stuff) and the intake. An engine with more valves can breath more easily and therefore make more power (relative to the engine) at the top, while sacrificing low-end power.

I can believe that a stock Honda with a good engine (their V6 is really nice) can beat a stock Crown Victoria - especially an older one that has probably been beaten on and is losing compression.
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Old 04-05-2004, 05:36 PM   #33
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Easy Guys ,

The Crown vic I race was 190 hp / 229 tq not sure it was model 1996

and mine was Honda Accord 2004 sedan 4 cyl , don't mistake my written car Honda Stream k20a3 Accord is faster ,


That's all



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