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Duckydos · 06-17-2003, 02:09 AM

Damn, I don't know about previous generation's, but changing the oil on my '98 Accord sucks so much. See, I feel kinda dumb paying someone else to change my oil, it's such a simple thing to do. So, I go home and try to get underneath the car... no can do, too low. So, I get out the ramps and start to drive up on them, and my brother stops me. Apparently, my bumper hits if I try to drive up. So, we take off the bumper and get it up there.

So, I get under it and try to take off the oil-pan nut thing. It's torque way the fvck on there. So, finally with a breaker bar I am able to get it off, but not without a bunch of hot oil spilling on my hand. I drain the oil, it was pitch black and less then 4 qts. Not good :\ Maybe I shouldn't have gone 8000 miles and 4 months w/o an oil change. Anyway, the bolt thing didn't have any metal shavings on it, so that's good.

So, I go to take off the filter, and that isn't working either. Not only is the filter in the dumbest place ever (in the rear of the engine above a bunch of stuff that makes it impossible to get to) but it's also over-torqued on there. I finally manage to get it off. I go to put the new filter back on, but I got oil all over the place and now I can't tighten it. I use the filter-wrench as best I can to get it back on there.

Anyway, while also down there, I notice that my undercarriage is really torn up. The tow-hooks are bent, crossmembers are scratched up, the header-pipe is flattened from wear, and there are small holes in my cat. Really sucks, maybe I should stop ramping my car.

Anyway, for now I am just going to pay someone to do my oil. Not worth the hassel and aggrevation.

(Really bad picture of the scratches on the undrecarriage)

-Ducky

Sorry, just had to vent, what a stupid car.

06-17-2003, 02:29 AM

You never to get a oil change? What a hole?

Well, you need go to Walt's Auto Care Centre for the lifetime oil change for 10k miles!

I did change the oil for lifetime for $189 also they have a sale at Walt's. Walt's Auto Care Centre is very good service for the oil change also exhuast pro.

06-17-2003, 10:37 AM

Seriously, the impact wrenches they use at the Honda dealership apply way too much torque to these things. They are way beyond spec.

I couldn't get my filter off (don't have the filter wrench....yet) and the drain plug was a pain to loosen as well.

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ebpda9 · 06-17-2003, 01:17 PM

heh i hear you. i usually use my jack to raise the car so i can change the oil. and yeah the oil filter is in the dumbest possible place.

06-17-2003, 02:26 PM

you gotta be kidding me....you own your own car and dont even change ur own oil.....come on......i dont trust anyone else under my car, plus to get synthetic into my car it cost over 50bucks....and with me doing it, it only costs 30 for oil and filter.......arrrrrrrrrrr had to vent

ebpda9 · 06-17-2003, 02:52 PM

heh, lowered cars are a ***** to change the oil. trust me cause i know.

Duckydos · 06-17-2003, 03:16 PM

Yea dude, when you can't even stick your head under the car, much less your whole body (and trust me, you really have to get under there to do an oil change on an Accord) it makes doing the oil a *****.

Plus, there area always these flyers and mailers for local businesses and they have deals like $15 (which is only like $5 more then doing it yourself) for an oil change, not bad. Actually for a while, I was getting free oil changes from Honda. The dealership fvcked with my car and that was Honda's way of saying sorry.

-Ducky

06-17-2003, 03:53 PM

I have to drive my fronts onto homemade 2x6 ramps (normal ones to steep) just to get the jack under the jack points to lift for an oil change.

Gets easier once you do it a few times. It took forever my first time (complete with hot oil, breaker bars, etc) but gets better. Spend $2 and get a filter wrench, but hand-tighten when you put it on - much easier. Also, start the drain bolt with a wrench but finish taking it out by hand; you can reach up above it so you don't get oil on you (or, in my case the first time, in my eyes).

Duckydos · 06-17-2003, 09:23 PM

Yea, my jack won't fit under the jack-points either. I have to jack from *cough*other*cough places. In other news, since there is no other place to really put this, I was messing around on photoshop today. I always thought that a 4-door convertible would be cool, but it looks kinda dumb. I still need to add seats, new rims, and maybe some spoilers... Anyway...

ebpda9 · 06-17-2003, 09:55 PM

did someone start biting on those tires ?

06-18-2003, 07:12 PM

lol...those are the new breed in performance tires

Grip72 · 06-18-2003, 08:22 PM

haha...tread baby..tread

pimpinprelude · 06-22-2003, 10:44 PM

humm maby a popo spike strip??? anyways yea i STILL cant get my filter off. now its all crushed and stuff. uhhh its soo hard to get too.. its like under the intanke manifold and up aginst the fire wall.... uhh jeez its like the thing was made so scrony japs could get to it or something...... well thay forgot about us big fat lazy americans....

no offence to japanese peoplez.. but its a fact of life that tay are small in size.. just like americans are usaly overwieght...black ppl... well are black... and east german girls have hary backs....:o

94_AcCoRd_EX · 06-23-2003, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pimpinprelude
anyways yea i STILL cant get my filter off.

Did you use an oil filter wrench? Mine always comes off just fine when I use one.

Yeah Ducky, its a major PITA to change the oil on my car too.

pimpinprelude · 06-23-2003, 05:06 PM

yea i used one.. but the last time the oil was changed in it, it was done at K-mart

noo i dident take it there!!! it was beore i bought it.. but yea thay arnt know for good work...but i am afrade to start it because it is soo deformed..... i KNOW it not getting enuf oil....

06-23-2003, 10:58 PM

yeah i hate the positioning of the oil filter....you can only get it from the bottom and u really gotta get under the car....keep at it dude...make sure your on ramps or something that wont fall while under there....if worst comes to it then just puncture it with a screwdriver......i always get fram filter becuase of their grip thing on the end.....good luck

06-23-2003, 11:52 PM

I would just puncture it with a screwdriver tht is long enough and turn that B***h. I had to do the same thing for my car when i first bought it, but i had a full lift. by the way vtracer20 fram oil filters are some of the worst on the market, i was in autozone and tha manager said that the generic oil filters that are cheaper are better. Go with a WIX.

pimpinprelude · 06-24-2003, 09:45 PM

haha yea but with my luck id just put a huge hole in it and still not be able to get it off hahaha.. but yea i am going out side to try it... thanks

pimpinprelude · 06-30-2003, 05:36 PM

uhh i finaly got it off.. haah there are like 20 holes in it...

06-30-2003, 08:02 PM

lol...good work....use a Fram filter they got the tecture stuff on the end to make it easier to get off next time

pimpinprelude · 06-30-2003, 08:59 PM

oo yea thats what i put on there this time.. hahaa

06-17-2003, 02:09 AM	#1
Duckydos Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Orlando, FL Age: 40 Posts: 1,048	Oil changes suck! Damn, I don't know about previous generation's, but changing the oil on my '98 Accord sucks so much. See, I feel kinda dumb paying someone else to change my oil, it's such a simple thing to do. So, I go home and try to get underneath the car... no can do, too low. So, I get out the ramps and start to drive up on them, and my brother stops me. Apparently, my bumper hits if I try to drive up. So, we take off the bumper and get it up there. So, I get under it and try to take off the oil-pan nut thing. It's torque way the fvck on there. So, finally with a breaker bar I am able to get it off, but not without a bunch of hot oil spilling on my hand. I drain the oil, it was pitch black and less then 4 qts. Not good :\ Maybe I shouldn't have gone 8000 miles and 4 months w/o an oil change. Anyway, the bolt thing didn't have any metal shavings on it, so that's good. So, I go to take off the filter, and that isn't working either. Not only is the filter in the dumbest place ever (in the rear of the engine above a bunch of stuff that makes it impossible to get to) but it's also over-torqued on there. I finally manage to get it off. I go to put the new filter back on, but I got oil all over the place and now I can't tighten it. I use the filter-wrench as best I can to get it back on there. Anyway, while also down there, I notice that my undercarriage is really torn up. The tow-hooks are bent, crossmembers are scratched up, the header-pipe is flattened from wear, and there are small holes in my cat. Really sucks, maybe I should stop ramping my car. Anyway, for now I am just going to pay someone to do my oil. Not worth the hassel and aggrevation. (Really bad picture of the scratches on the undrecarriage) -Ducky Sorry, just had to vent, what a stupid car. __________________ Had an Accord. Then I had something European. Now I have an SCCA Solo-II monster!

06-17-2003, 01:17 PM	#4
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 43 Posts: 17,266	heh i hear you. i usually use my jack to raise the car so i can change the oil. and yeah the oil filter is in the dumbest possible place. __________________

06-17-2003, 02:52 PM	#6
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 43 Posts: 17,266	heh, lowered cars are a ***** to change the oil. trust me cause i know. __________________

06-17-2003, 03:16 PM	#7
Duckydos Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Orlando, FL Age: 40 Posts: 1,048	Yea dude, when you can't even stick your head under the car, much less your whole body (and trust me, you really have to get under there to do an oil change on an Accord) it makes doing the oil a *****. Plus, there area always these flyers and mailers for local businesses and they have deals like $15 (which is only like $5 more then doing it yourself) for an oil change, not bad. Actually for a while, I was getting free oil changes from Honda. The dealership fvcked with my car and that was Honda's way of saying sorry. -Ducky __________________ Had an Accord. Then I had something European. Now I have an SCCA Solo-II monster!

06-17-2003, 09:23 PM	#9
Duckydos Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Orlando, FL Age: 40 Posts: 1,048	Yea, my jack won't fit under the jack-points either. I have to jack from coughother*cough places. In other news, since there is no other place to really put this, I was messing around on photoshop today. I always thought that a 4-door convertible would be cool, but it looks kinda dumb. I still need to add seats, new rims, and maybe some spoilers... Anyway... __________________ Had an Accord. Then I had something European. Now I have an SCCA Solo-II monster!

06-17-2003, 02:29 AM	#2
pbateson Posts: n/a	You never to get a oil change? What a hole? Well, you need go to Walt's Auto Care Centre for the lifetime oil change for 10k miles! I did change the oil for lifetime for $189 also they have a sale at Walt's. Walt's Auto Care Centre is very good service for the oil change also exhuast pro.

06-17-2003, 10:37 AM	#3
spoogenet Posts: n/a	Seriously, the impact wrenches they use at the Honda dealership apply way too much torque to these things. They are way beyond spec. I couldn't get my filter off (don't have the filter wrench....yet) and the drain plug was a pain to loosen as well. b

06-17-2003, 02:26 PM	#5
vtracer20 Posts: n/a	you gotta be kidding me....you own your own car and dont even change ur own oil.....come on......i dont trust anyone else under my car, plus to get synthetic into my car it cost over 50bucks....and with me doing it, it only costs 30 for oil and filter.......arrrrrrrrrrr had to vent

06-17-2003, 03:53 PM	#8
Mushroom Posts: n/a	I have to drive my fronts onto homemade 2x6 ramps (normal ones to steep) just to get the jack under the jack points to lift for an oil change. Gets easier once you do it a few times. It took forever my first time (complete with hot oil, breaker bars, etc) but gets better. Spend $2 and get a filter wrench, but hand-tighten when you put it on - much easier. Also, start the drain bolt with a wrench but finish taking it out by hand; you can reach up above it so you don't get oil on you (or, in my case the first time, in my eyes).

06-17-2003, 09:55 PM	#10
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 43 Posts: 17,266	did someone start biting on those tires ? __________________

06-18-2003, 07:12 PM	#11
vtracer20 Posts: n/a	lol...those are the new breed in performance tires

06-18-2003, 08:22 PM	#12
Grip72 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Calgary, AB Canada Age: 39 Posts: 2,962	haha...tread baby..tread

06-22-2003, 10:44 PM	#13
pimpinprelude Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Atlanta Age: 36 Posts: 1,325	humm maby a popo spike strip??? anyways yea i STILL cant get my filter off. now its all crushed and stuff. uhhh its soo hard to get too.. its like under the intanke manifold and up aginst the fire wall.... uhh jeez its like the thing was made so scrony japs could get to it or something...... well thay forgot about us big fat lazy americans.... no offence to japanese peoplez.. but its a fact of life that tay are small in size.. just like americans are usaly overwieght...black ppl... well are black... and east german girls have hary backs....:o Last edited by pimpinprelude : 06-22-2003 at 11:09 PM.

06-23-2003, 05:06 PM	#15
pimpinprelude Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Atlanta Age: 36 Posts: 1,325	yea i used one.. but the last time the oil was changed in it, it was done at K-mart noo i dident take it there!!! it was beore i bought it.. but yea thay arnt know for good work...but i am afrade to start it because it is soo deformed..... i KNOW it not getting enuf oil....

06-23-2003, 10:58 PM	#16
vtracer20 Posts: n/a	yeah i hate the positioning of the oil filter....you can only get it from the bottom and u really gotta get under the car....keep at it dude...make sure your on ramps or something that wont fall while under there....if worst comes to it then just puncture it with a screwdriver......i always get fram filter becuase of their grip thing on the end.....good luck

06-23-2003, 11:52 PM	#17
accordracer84 Posts: n/a	I would just puncture it with a screwdriver tht is long enough and turn that B***h. I had to do the same thing for my car when i first bought it, but i had a full lift. by the way vtracer20 fram oil filters are some of the worst on the market, i was in autozone and tha manager said that the generic oil filters that are cheaper are better. Go with a WIX.

06-24-2003, 09:45 PM	#18
pimpinprelude Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Atlanta Age: 36 Posts: 1,325	haha yea but with my luck id just put a huge hole in it and still not be able to get it off hahaha.. but yea i am going out side to try it... thanks

06-30-2003, 05:36 PM	#19
pimpinprelude Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Atlanta Age: 36 Posts: 1,325	uhh i finaly got it off.. haah there are like 20 holes in it...

06-30-2003, 08:02 PM	#20
vtracer20 Posts: n/a	lol...good work....use a Fram filter they got the tecture stuff on the end to make it easier to get off next time

06-30-2003, 08:59 PM	#21
pimpinprelude Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Atlanta Age: 36 Posts: 1,325	oo yea thats what i put on there this time.. hahaa

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