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*ChrisCantSkate* · 05-31-2005, 12:42 PM

im looking at buying a recording sound card for my computer, and im looking over the different types of cards they have avalible. im wondering how exactly a firewire card would hook up. theres USB and PCI cards, and theres also fire wire. they have the exact one im looking for but its a firewire one... and its looking like i need extra shit to buy

*ChrisCantSkate* · 05-31-2005, 12:47 PM

click

thats the actual one, to see what all is included

blind34_1 · 05-31-2005, 12:52 PM

firewire and usb are used primarily for hooking external peripherals into your computer, like a external hard drive, or a flash key, or a digital camera.

PCI is a bus inside your computer for hooking expansion cards in. If you are buying a sound card, PCI is your only option (unless you are looking at an OLD school ISA card, or somebody finally developed a PCI-express card). It is possible that this card may have built in ports on the back for usb and firewire, but I wouldn't understand the purpose.

There are pci cards whose only function is to add additional usb and firewire ports, but that has nothing to do with recording audio.

I have heard of external devices that will accept an analog signal from, say a guitar amp, and convert them to a signal useable by a sound card, or maybe even across usb. Not sure on this, though.

What product are you looking at? (link, model number, etc.)

*ChrisCantSkate* · 05-31-2005, 12:58 PM

heh... i posted it above your post. its a recording card for my guitar or other instruments. i know how PCI/USB slots work, and i think im leaning towrds a PCI card that looks alot better, and since its internal, its cheaper.

Heres the PCI one

question on this one... would it completely replace my old sound card? or is it a separate thing

blind34_1 · 05-31-2005, 05:27 PM

wow, those are two things i've never seen before. Both are pretty cool, but it looks like, for your money, you should go with the internal card. If all you had was a laptop, then the external unit would be your only choice, but if your willing to open up your box and slap the card in, do it.

As for still needing your old card, it looks like this one blows it away. Keeping your old one may even cause conflicts, so it may be better to keep out.

If you currently use speakers or headphones for pc media, I'm not sure how that would work. I don't know those acronyms they are using, like ADAT, AES, etc. You might want to look into that, or not even worry about it, and see what it comes with, as far as output.

i've heard Maudio makes pretty good stuff. The internal card is Creative (the Microsoft of the PC Audio world - booo), but its up to you.

*ChrisCantSkate* · 05-31-2005, 10:20 PM

i ended up going with this one so far i can play guitar through it fine, but i cant get it to play the normal windows sounds. i havnt uninstalled my old card yet and im 99% sure thats the problem. i saved the extra $100 and bought a decent footswitch instead of dealing with the effects via computer, other than that i dont think im missing out on much i'd be using for now.

edit: its just winamp that wont play, everything else is fine...

GT40FIED · 06-03-2005, 09:48 PM

I would've gone with the E-mu setup. Their stuff is almost always quality. Depending on what kind of programming your using for recording/editing, you can get away with stuff a lot cheaper. My Soundblaster Extigy (USB 5.1 channel external card) works well if you've got something like ProTools but the hook up isn't the easiest in the world since it's not specifically designed for musical equipment...but anything can be done via adapters these days. It does, however, have MIDI and SPDIF inputs and a MIDI out. I can't say I recommend Creative's stuff (especially their fucked software), but the card has served me well. Team it with a cheap (read: free) version of CoolEdit and I've got a decent little setup. Good call on the footswitch, by the way. No digital effect will EVER be able to reproduce a good analog effect. It just can't be done. Hell...just look at Digitech.

blind34_1 · 06-03-2005, 11:04 PM

i would try uninstalling winamp, and reinstalling, and see if that helps. You can play music thru WMP? and how about normal windows sounds?

If nothing else, remove your old card and see if that fixes anything. A conflict is surely a possibility.

05-31-2005, 12:42 PM	#1
ChrisCantSkate Thought Police Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: orlando florida Age: 40 Posts: 9,662	firewire? im looking at buying a recording sound card for my computer, and im looking over the different types of cards they have avalible. im wondering how exactly a firewire card would hook up. theres USB and PCI cards, and theres also fire wire. they have the exact one im looking for but its a firewire one... and its looking like i need extra shit to buy __________________ Black Vtec Prelude-h22a power'd Many dreams come true, and some have silver linings. I live for my dreams and a pocket full of gold.

05-31-2005, 12:47 PM	#2
ChrisCantSkate Thought Police Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: orlando florida Age: 40 Posts: 9,662	click thats the actual one, to see what all is included __________________ Black Vtec Prelude-h22a power'd Many dreams come true, and some have silver linings. I live for my dreams and a pocket full of gold.

05-31-2005, 12:58 PM	#4
ChrisCantSkate Thought Police Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: orlando florida Age: 40 Posts: 9,662	heh... i posted it above your post. its a recording card for my guitar or other instruments. i know how PCI/USB slots work, and i think im leaning towrds a PCI card that looks alot better, and since its internal, its cheaper. Heres the PCI one question on this one... would it completely replace my old sound card? or is it a separate thing __________________ Black Vtec Prelude-h22a power'd Many dreams come true, and some have silver linings. I live for my dreams and a pocket full of gold.

05-31-2005, 10:20 PM	#6
ChrisCantSkate Thought Police Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: orlando florida Age: 40 Posts: 9,662	i ended up going with this one so far i can play guitar through it fine, but i cant get it to play the normal windows sounds. i havnt uninstalled my old card yet and im 99% sure thats the problem. i saved the extra $100 and bought a decent footswitch instead of dealing with the effects via computer, other than that i dont think im missing out on much i'd be using for now. edit: its just winamp that wont play, everything else is fine... __________________ Black Vtec Prelude-h22a power'd Many dreams come true, and some have silver linings. I live for my dreams and a pocket full of gold. Last edited by ChrisCantSkate : 05-31-2005 at 10:24 PM.

06-03-2005, 09:48 PM	#7
GT40FIED Best...mod...ever Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: At the end of the longest line Age: 42 Posts: 7,451	I would've gone with the E-mu setup. Their stuff is almost always quality. Depending on what kind of programming your using for recording/editing, you can get away with stuff a lot cheaper. My Soundblaster Extigy (USB 5.1 channel external card) works well if you've got something like ProTools but the hook up isn't the easiest in the world since it's not specifically designed for musical equipment...but anything can be done via adapters these days. It does, however, have MIDI and SPDIF inputs and a MIDI out. I can't say I recommend Creative's stuff (especially their fucked software), but the card has served me well. Team it with a cheap (read: free) version of CoolEdit and I've got a decent little setup. Good call on the footswitch, by the way. No digital effect will EVER be able to reproduce a good analog effect. It just can't be done. Hell...just look at Digitech. __________________ 1984 1/2 Mustang GT350 #842, Faster than you...nuff said Anna Fan Club President/Dictator Someday, in the event that mankind actually figures out what it is that this world actually revoles around, thousands of people are going to be shocked and perplexed that it was not them. Sometimes this includes me. "If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." - George Orwell Welcome to the new Amerika

05-31-2005, 12:52 PM	#3
blind34_1 Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: IL Age: 39 Posts: 1,813	firewire and usb are used primarily for hooking external peripherals into your computer, like a external hard drive, or a flash key, or a digital camera. PCI is a bus inside your computer for hooking expansion cards in. If you are buying a sound card, PCI is your only option (unless you are looking at an OLD school ISA card, or somebody finally developed a PCI-express card). It is possible that this card may have built in ports on the back for usb and firewire, but I wouldn't understand the purpose. There are pci cards whose only function is to add additional usb and firewire ports, but that has nothing to do with recording audio. I have heard of external devices that will accept an analog signal from, say a guitar amp, and convert them to a signal useable by a sound card, or maybe even across usb. Not sure on this, though. What product are you looking at? (link, model number, etc.)

05-31-2005, 05:27 PM	#5
blind34_1 Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: IL Age: 39 Posts: 1,813	wow, those are two things i've never seen before. Both are pretty cool, but it looks like, for your money, you should go with the internal card. If all you had was a laptop, then the external unit would be your only choice, but if your willing to open up your box and slap the card in, do it. As for still needing your old card, it looks like this one blows it away. Keeping your old one may even cause conflicts, so it may be better to keep out. If you currently use speakers or headphones for pc media, I'm not sure how that would work. I don't know those acronyms they are using, like ADAT, AES, etc. You might want to look into that, or not even worry about it, and see what it comes with, as far as output. i've heard Maudio makes pretty good stuff. The internal card is Creative (the Microsoft of the PC Audio world - booo), but its up to you.

06-03-2005, 11:04 PM	#8
blind34_1 Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: IL Age: 39 Posts: 1,813	i would try uninstalling winamp, and reinstalling, and see if that helps. You can play music thru WMP? and how about normal windows sounds? If nothing else, remove your old card and see if that fixes anything. A conflict is surely a possibility.

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