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12-19-2001, 01:44 AM
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Lightened Flywheels
I'm just curious to hear some views on getting a lightened flywheel.
I know they make the revs drop/rise faster, make it easier to bog off the line, etc. I also know that they will improve acceleration, more in the low gears than higher gears. I would just like to know how "streetable" they are. I'm going to be changing my clutch sometime in the near future, and I was looking at throwing a lightened flywheel in at the same time to save labor. If they make it too difficult to drive, I'm not going to do it though. I don't have very much done to my car right now, but since I need a new clutch anyways...  Thanks for any help 
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12-19-2001, 03:09 AM
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light weight flywheels kick ass, and paired with that act clutch you are looking at, you will love it.
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12-19-2001, 01:03 PM
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Re: Lightened Flywheels
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Im still toying with the idea.. I just have to convince myself to pay for it.. I have the clutch sitting at home already, Im trying to decide if I want to get it yet.. I heard it really rocks with a Turbo..
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12-19-2001, 01:57 PM
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What are some good quality flywheels out there that won't kill my wallet? I'm also thinking that I don't want an ultra-light flywheel for street driving, right?
And yeah BlazinCRX, I haven't forgotten about getting that clutch from you 
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12-19-2001, 02:09 PM
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Theres a groupbuy going on For clutchmaster flywheel for $280 shipped. Clutch Master Flywheel Group Buy
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12-19-2001, 02:18 PM
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Thanks for the link RR
The only thing I'm concerned about it going to a 7.5 lb flywheel. That is extremely light, and from what I've heard, it will be a pain to start from lights, etc. each time. Any truth to that?
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12-19-2001, 02:39 PM
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Thats my set back too.. Sometimes I have a hard enough time driving.. I couldnt imagine this helping.. lol
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12-19-2001, 03:03 PM
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Yeah, when you get your turbo though, you will really benefit from a lightened flywheel.
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12-20-2001, 11:04 AM
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Anyone else have opinions/experiences with lightened flywheels?
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12-20-2001, 12:36 PM
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Hello Fellas!
It really isnt harder to launch a car with a lighter flywheel. You will have adapte you driving methods.. It's a bit lik getting used to driving a stock Accord, then going to an S2000.. (S2000 rock!!) It will take a little more concentration for the frist times, but you'll get the hang of it. No big deal.
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12-20-2001, 08:32 PM
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Thanks Accord Man
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Yeah I have that issue too... Weren't we just discussing this? 
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Umm why yes.. I think we were... Your issues stem why beyond the Flywheel tho...   I cant believe that stuff with the tranny..
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12-21-2001, 09:56 AM
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Your synchro's on 2nd & 3rd were messed up right?
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They have to rebuild his transmisson...
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That kinda sucks.. they should give him a full new tranny!
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No. That really sucks. Fortunately I have a warranty on it. And with all the parts the are replacing it will very close to new. Its the actual gears that they have to replace along with some retainers. Pretty crazy.....
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12-22-2001, 02:29 PM
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Thanks for jacking my topic guys
 j/k :P Any others on this board have anything to say on this topic? Thanks for the replies I've gotten, but I know someone else has something to say
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No problem! I honestly wouldn't get one unless you had a pretty hefty build or were planning on a strip only car. Wouldn't make much sense anyway.....
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12-22-2001, 05:02 PM
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Well, I was told that it is a good bang for the buck, and I'm getting a clutch anyway. Are you saying it doesn't make sense b/c you won't see any gains from it? Either that or non-streetability would be the main reasons I wouldn't get one. Other than that, I feel that every little bit helps, as I'm planning on upgrading much more on my car in the future.
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Well what I'm saying is that unless you've got some serious mods(Turbo, SC, N2O, or heavy NA), I doubt it'd be that beneficial. Not to mention that would annoy me just driving around town. That money could be put towards other mods. Maybe down the road it'd be a good investment.
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12-23-2001, 03:01 PM
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Definately worth it IMO. If you drive even a little in an aggressive way, its worth it. For daily driving, there's nothing anoying about it. Give a little more gas, get off the clutch musch faster.. During which time, you're not actually burning the clutch!
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Well I'm not saying its not worth it at all. I'm saying that unless he has some mods, its not all that worth while. You could divert that money into other mods. Then maybe the flywheel upgrade would be more helpful.
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12-23-2001, 09:54 PM
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Ya but since he will be doing more..
Anyways..
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12-24-2001, 12:40 PM
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Civic_Addict, I appreciate you opinion, but I think that I'd do it now so I wouldn't have to pay so much labor in the future.
Accord Man - thanks again for the info One more question though... are there any that weigh around 10-11 lbs instead of 7-8?
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12-24-2001, 02:11 PM
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uh.. SPecs of each, I dont really know..
BlazinCrx is your best bet.
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12-24-2001, 03:00 PM
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Worth every penny in my book! Very streetable, and I've had one for about 3 years now.
If you go the groupbuycenter.com you'll find the clutchmasters flywheels on there from nrg-racing.com $280 shipped! |
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12-24-2001, 04:38 PM
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Sounds good then. I guess its between ClutchMasters - 7lb and Fidanza (sp?) - 8 lb.
I've heard good things about both, but that groupbuy is a pretty good price.
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12-24-2001, 04:58 PM
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Sitck with Clutchmaster..
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12-24-2001, 10:14 PM
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It's funny you say that. I guess most people don't know.... Clutchmasters flywheel = Fidanza flywheel. That's right, clutchmasters has Fidanza make the flywheel for them. They're identical units. |
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Thanks, that is good info
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12-25-2001, 11:17 AM
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Really?
I had no clue. I suggested Clutchmaster, cause thats the choice of my racer friends. Never really had problems with em. However with the Fidanza, 2-3 guys had issues with em.. 1 was at the install.. Do they both use the same quality controle?
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Did you not read my post? I'll word it again for you. Clutchmasters has FIDANZA make the flywheels for them. Is that clear enough? |
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12-25-2001, 12:58 PM
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Why the hostility? Obviously I read your post. It's entirely possible for a company that has its products built by another, benifits from a higher level of quatliy than the identical product sold under a different social reason (NAME), manufactured by the mother co. It's even possible for, within the same co, different levels of quality controle be established. This is the case in 95% of the companies in Asia which manufacture for export. For example, Sony Corp.'s product which is destined to the North American market will be of a superior quality than the same product destined for the South American market (or equivalent markets). I'll give you an example that is closer to our situation. LG and Goldstar. LG is the subsidiary of Goldstar. Now guess who has a higher level of quality controle. You guessed right! Goldstar's standardization plateau is not even in the same league as LG's. Funny isnt it? 2 identical products sold under different brand names aren't even of the same quality. That's what I meant.
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Come one man, we don't need the attitude, he's just asking a question. Accord Man has an entirely valid point in his post.
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Well, in response I wasn't hostile, just to the point. And since you all don't know me very well, I'll say this. If I do get hostile you'll know it.
I was trying to be informative about the flywheels, and when people don't read what I post, I get a bit upset. I never beat around the bush, I just get to the nitty gritty. Is it possible that Fidanza had some problems with their flywheels?, sure, I'll go with that. Here's the deal. And I talked with Fidanza directly about the CM flywheels. Fidanza sells clutchmasters their (Fidanza) flywheels. They make a few revisions, the color is different (blue for CM, silver for Fidanza) and Fidanze engraves the CM logo into the flywheel for them, other than that, they are identical units. So, if Fidanza has problems, it's most likely that Clutchmasters will have the same problems. I personally have had a Fidanza flywheel for about 2 years now, and have no problem. The offer excellent product support and you can easily get replacement disks if necessary. |
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I have another flywheel question guys. I'm ordering an ACT clutch tomorrow (HA3-HDSS), and SOHFAST sells a stock lightened flywheel for $150 +$75 core. It weighs 13 lbs (which is about the weight I wanted to start with). This is 7 lbs off the stock flywheel if I'm correct. Jerome Soh says this is totally safe as long as you don't exceed 500 RPMs over redline. Is this a safe thing to have? Any comments?
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My concern would be if it was balanced. If he, or whoever, didn't balance it after they lightened it correctly it could cause some issues. Just a thought.
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01-18-2002, 07:49 AM
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I dunno about the flywheel man..
IS it warrantied? Is this guy certified??  Wouldnt you rather go aftermarket?
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