.:HSTuners::

06-30-2003, 08:21 PM

Well, its been a long hard road (workin and savin the money for my motor) but im almost there.
In about a month and a half, i should have the estimated 3.5k plus dollars to get a B16a2 from Hmotorsonline.com , autometer racing tach, and a short shifter from DC sports.

My shop is only charging me 400$ to put in the motor, and one of the guys at the shop is buying my battered (but not beaten) D16Z6 w/140,000 miles for 200$.

What do you guys think about my plans (dont try to convince me to buy another motor cause ive thought long and hard bout this)?
What things should i watch out for when putting in the new motor? What common problems are associated with engine swap installations.

Thanks for your input.

*pdiggitydogg* · 06-30-2003, 08:32 PM

order the motor from steve from hmo, he always gets people the best shi-at...or so im told

sounds like a plan...im jealous...

you might want to keep the d16 just incase something goes wrong down the road and you need a motor...$200 is a sweet deal for him though

07-02-2003, 03:25 PM

I wouldn't get the b16....i would get a b18...lil more torque cause of the displacment...but to each his own.

Wren57 · 07-02-2003, 10:23 PM

did you completely not read the part where he said don' t convince him to get another motor?

good choice, but you could get everything for a LOT cheaper than 3500. I suggest looking around junkyards near you for a b16... can pick them up for CHEAP!!!

07-06-2003, 06:36 PM

Opak - thanks for the tip - considering when you first signed in here at HS you had me PM you a zillion times with questions about what the different strengths and weeknesses of all the B-Series motors are.

I do realize the GSR has more torque, but i can't justify the extra 800+ $ that are required for me to purchase the motor. It's different, but not That different.

BTW - Horsepower = torque X rpm (divided by some # which i forgot) so if i have less torque, but more RPM's, i get good power regardless.

point well considered

*pdiggitydogg* · 07-06-2003, 06:47 PM

Im a b16 fan...and a hypocrite because im getting a b18c

if i had a hatch I'd go b16a though...

07-06-2003, 07:00 PM

I figure with the money i save on my motor (since the b16 only costs 2300, i can redo other stuff like struts/tiebars)

ebpda9 · 07-06-2003, 08:30 PM

good luck and the number you forgot is 5152

07-06-2003, 09:09 PM

Almost right. The number is 5252. So for instance if you make 120 lb/ft of torque at 4000 rpm:

120 x 4000 = 480000 / 5252 = ~91 horsepower. Not too impressive...

However lets say you make 120 lb/ft of torque at 7000 rpm..

120 x 7000 = 840000 / 5252 = ~159 horsepower. Much better!

So the trick is to make torque at high rpm. BTW this isn't very easy unless you have variable valve timing like the VTEC system because one camshaft can't work very well all the way up to 7000+ rpm...

slowEJ6 · 07-08-2003, 01:07 AM

id rather make power down low.......less wear and tear on the motor.....
high revving is what wears down motors......

anyway.....good luck with the swap.

07-08-2003, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by highlander
did you completely not read the part where he said don' t convince him to get another motor?

good choice, but you could get everything for a LOT cheaper than 3500. I suggest looking around junkyards near you for a b16... can pick them up for CHEAP!!!

Yes i did, but I thought I'd just throw that out there, sheit! don't hate for trying to help, damn!

Quote:

Originally posted by cashizslick
[b]Opak - thanks for the tip - considering when you first signed in here at HS you had me PM you a zillion times with questions about what the different strengths and weeknesses of all the B-Series motors are.[b]

Yea, well i guess you didn't really take your own advice...but thanks for your time explaining it to me, and i hope you like your b16....i have a friend that has one and hates it cause the lack of torque.

Quote:

Originally posted by slowEJ6
id rather make power down low.......less wear and tear on the motor.....
high revving is what wears down motors......

anyway.....good luck with the swap.[b]

that too.

07-09-2003, 08:43 PM

Well, i thank you for your advice (even OPAK

) - I'd like to clairify that i do not plan to spend 3.5k on just the motor - that figure includes the motor, lsd tranny, installation, shipping, new tach, and short shifter.

*pdiggitydogg* · 07-11-2003, 12:11 AM

^hopefully, it comes w/ all that, yes

and oh my god...opak...whats come over you? You go from not having a clue, to being mr know-it-all in less than a week! Crazy! And oh the attitude!

He wanted a b16...so what? (dont even start shit w/ me...been a rough week...or 2)

06-30-2003, 08:21 PM	#1
cashizslick Posts: n/a	Swappin time! Well, its been a long hard road (workin and savin the money for my motor) but im almost there. In about a month and a half, i should have the estimated 3.5k plus dollars to get a B16a2 from Hmotorsonline.com , autometer racing tach, and a short shifter from DC sports. My shop is only charging me 400$ to put in the motor, and one of the guys at the shop is buying my battered (but not beaten) D16Z6 w/140,000 miles for 200$. What do you guys think about my plans (dont try to convince me to buy another motor cause ive thought long and hard bout this)? What things should i watch out for when putting in the new motor? What common problems are associated with engine swap installations. Thanks for your input.

07-02-2003, 10:23 PM	#4
Wren57 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Age: 38 Posts: 2,856	did you completely not read the part where he said don' t convince him to get another motor? good choice, but you could get everything for a LOT cheaper than 3500. I suggest looking around junkyards near you for a b16... can pick them up for CHEAP!!! __________________ yeah, its that big

07-06-2003, 08:30 PM	#8
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 43 Posts: 17,266	good luck and the number you forgot is 5152 __________________

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06-30-2003, 08:32 PM	#2
pdiggitydogg Yahoo Watashi wa kattaze! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Meanwhile, up in The D... Age: 40 Posts: 10,579	order the motor from steve from hmo, he always gets people the best shi-at...or so im told sounds like a plan...im jealous... you might want to keep the d16 just incase something goes wrong down the road and you need a motor...$200 is a sweet deal for him though

07-02-2003, 03:25 PM	#3
OPAKRACING Posts: n/a	I wouldn't get the b16....i would get a b18...lil more torque cause of the displacment...but to each his own.

07-06-2003, 06:36 PM	#5
cashizslick Posts: n/a	Opak - thanks for the tip - considering when you first signed in here at HS you had me PM you a zillion times with questions about what the different strengths and weeknesses of all the B-Series motors are. I do realize the GSR has more torque, but i can't justify the extra 800+ $ that are required for me to purchase the motor. It's different, but not That different. BTW - Horsepower = torque X rpm (divided by some # which i forgot) so if i have less torque, but more RPM's, i get good power regardless. point well considered

07-06-2003, 06:47 PM	#6
pdiggitydogg Yahoo Watashi wa kattaze! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Meanwhile, up in The D... Age: 40 Posts: 10,579	Im a b16 fan...and a hypocrite because im getting a b18c if i had a hatch I'd go b16a though...

07-06-2003, 07:00 PM	#7
cashizslick Posts: n/a	I figure with the money i save on my motor (since the b16 only costs 2300, i can redo other stuff like struts/tiebars)

07-06-2003, 09:09 PM	#9
rlj51 Posts: n/a	Almost right. The number is 5252. So for instance if you make 120 lb/ft of torque at 4000 rpm: 120 x 4000 = 480000 / 5252 = ~91 horsepower. Not too impressive... However lets say you make 120 lb/ft of torque at 7000 rpm.. 120 x 7000 = 840000 / 5252 = ~159 horsepower. Much better! So the trick is to make torque at high rpm. BTW this isn't very easy unless you have variable valve timing like the VTEC system because one camshaft can't work very well all the way up to 7000+ rpm...

07-08-2003, 01:07 AM	#10
slowEJ6 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Oviedo, FL Age: 42 Posts: 3,195	id rather make power down low.......less wear and tear on the motor..... high revving is what wears down motors...... anyway.....good luck with the swap.

07-09-2003, 08:43 PM	#12
cashizslick Posts: n/a	Well, i thank you for your advice (even OPAK ) - I'd like to clairify that i do not plan to spend 3.5k on just the motor - that figure includes the motor, lsd tranny, installation, shipping, new tach, and short shifter.

07-11-2003, 12:11 AM	#13
pdiggitydogg Yahoo Watashi wa kattaze! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Meanwhile, up in The D... Age: 40 Posts: 10,579	^hopefully, it comes w/ all that, yes and oh my god...opak...whats come over you? You go from not having a clue, to being mr know-it-all in less than a week! Crazy! And oh the attitude! He wanted a b16...so what? (dont even start shit w/ me...been a rough week...or 2)