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07-16-2002, 12:56 AM

i was wonderin' if there is any dohc lude engines (92+ no b20's) that are nonvtec......i'm deciding to do another swap in my car.....i'm wanting sumthing more than a b-series engine....i'm thinking about an H22 or H23 but wonderin if they made a nonvtec counterpart......just in case the vtecs are hard to come by......thankz

07-16-2002, 02:25 AM

h23 is the nonvtec. 160 hp @5800
torque: 156@4500...just turbo your ls motor. think of it this way...$3000 for a h22 swap and get 200 hp or $3000 for a turbo kit and goodies and get 200+ hp! the choice is yours.

*Addict* · 07-16-2002, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by blownteggy
h23 is the nonvtec. 160 hp @5800
torque: 156@4500...just turbo your ls motor. think of it this way...$3000 for a h22 swap and get 200 hp or $3000 for a turbo kit and goodies and get 200+ hp! the choice is yours.

What he said.......

*ChrisCantSkate* · 07-17-2002, 11:02 AM

you can find h23's for cheap usualy cause prelude people will upgrade to the h22. then if you turbo the h23, you wont be touched

07-17-2002, 11:37 AM

i was wanting to go all-motor but i'm open to anything.....maybe i'll just turbo my ls and see how things go....would i have to put money into building the internals or are there bolt in kits?......thanks

*Addict* · 07-17-2002, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BLu3xCiViC
maybe i'll just turbo my ls and see how things go

Depends on the level of boost. Ask the guys in the turbo forum.

07-17-2002, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BLu3xCiViC
i was wanting to go all-motor but i'm open to anything.....maybe i'll just turbo my ls and see how things go....would i have to put money into building the internals or are there bolt in kits?......thanks

you can buil your ls to an all motor monster, but it will take more $$ for you to do it comapred to a civic with a gsr motor. boost that sucker if you wnt to make some power

*ChrisCantSkate* · 07-20-2002, 07:19 PM

h22 the biatch

07-28-2002, 03:49 PM

hey, you can put the H23 in, but it's really hard to do, expensive and all- if you get the F22 non VTEC it's fits better, you can get one of those from the Preludes starting in 92- and it's cheaper too.

07-29-2002, 11:19 AM

is the F-series DOHC? i didnt think so

07-29-2002, 04:03 PM

no, it's just SOHC and it's not as good as the H23 so it's probably not worth it for you

ebpda9 · 07-29-2002, 04:43 PM

the f22's are sohc and make squat for power. plus there is no real gain and the added weight. i know cause i have one under my hood.

*AzCivic* · 07-29-2002, 06:23 PM

Just go with the turbo! You should be able to boost 8 psi on the stock internals. As long as the fuel system can keep up.

slowEJ6 · 08-01-2002, 10:22 PM

actually there are DOHC F22's. dont believe me? hit me up on AIM, ill be more than happy to show you several links proving it.

i say turbo your b18b.
installing an H series isnt really all that difficult at all. a little more work to it than a regular B series, but its not super hard.

*ChrisCantSkate* · 08-09-2002, 10:18 PM

yeah, the jdm prelude si's had them, its like a h23 with less tq. and the f22, h22, and h23 have the same mounts, i dont see how one will be harder to install over the other, besides wiring the vtec solinoid wires for the computer. if you want all motor h22, if you want turbo b18 non-vtec or h23. and yes they do make bolt on turbo kits for h23's... at least in preludes. you may(probobly) will have to peice together a intercooler kit for your car and add it to the h23 manifold.

07-16-2002, 12:56 AM	#1
BLu3xCiViC Posts: n/a	H-series nonvtec??? i was wonderin' if there is any dohc lude engines (92+ no b20's) that are nonvtec......i'm deciding to do another swap in my car.....i'm wanting sumthing more than a b-series engine....i'm thinking about an H22 or H23 but wonderin if they made a nonvtec counterpart......just in case the vtecs are hard to come by......thankz

07-17-2002, 11:02 AM	#4
ChrisCantSkate Thought Police Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: orlando florida Age: 40 Posts: 9,662	you can find h23's for cheap usualy cause prelude people will upgrade to the h22. then if you turbo the h23, you wont be touched __________________ Black Vtec Prelude-h22a power'd Many dreams come true, and some have silver linings. I live for my dreams and a pocket full of gold.

07-20-2002, 07:19 PM	#8
ChrisCantSkate Thought Police Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: orlando florida Age: 40 Posts: 9,662	h22 the biatch __________________ Black Vtec Prelude-h22a power'd Many dreams come true, and some have silver linings. I live for my dreams and a pocket full of gold.

07-29-2002, 04:43 PM	#12
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 43 Posts: 17,266	the f22's are sohc and make squat for power. plus there is no real gain and the added weight. i know cause i have one under my hood. __________________

08-09-2002, 10:18 PM	#15
ChrisCantSkate Thought Police Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: orlando florida Age: 40 Posts: 9,662	yeah, the jdm prelude si's had them, its like a h23 with less tq. and the f22, h22, and h23 have the same mounts, i dont see how one will be harder to install over the other, besides wiring the vtec solinoid wires for the computer. if you want all motor h22, if you want turbo b18 non-vtec or h23. and yes they do make bolt on turbo kits for h23's... at least in preludes. you may(probobly) will have to peice together a intercooler kit for your car and add it to the h23 manifold. __________________ Black Vtec Prelude-h22a power'd Many dreams come true, and some have silver linings. I live for my dreams and a pocket full of gold.

07-16-2002, 02:25 AM	#2
blownteggy Posts: n/a	h23 is the nonvtec. 160 hp @5800 torque: 156@4500...just turbo your ls motor. think of it this way...$3000 for a h22 swap and get 200 hp or $3000 for a turbo kit and goodies and get 200+ hp! the choice is yours.

07-17-2002, 11:37 AM	#5
BLu3xCiViC Posts: n/a	i was wanting to go all-motor but i'm open to anything.....maybe i'll just turbo my ls and see how things go....would i have to put money into building the internals or are there bolt in kits?......thanks

07-28-2002, 03:49 PM	#9
jsimmons7 Posts: n/a	hey, you can put the H23 in, but it's really hard to do, expensive and all- if you get the F22 non VTEC it's fits better, you can get one of those from the Preludes starting in 92- and it's cheaper too.

07-29-2002, 11:19 AM	#10
BLu3xCiViC Posts: n/a	is the F-series DOHC? i didnt think so

07-29-2002, 04:03 PM	#11
jsimmons7 Posts: n/a	no, it's just SOHC and it's not as good as the H23 so it's probably not worth it for you

07-29-2002, 06:23 PM	#13
AzCivic Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Az Age: 43 Posts: 3,804	Just go with the turbo! You should be able to boost 8 psi on the stock internals. As long as the fuel system can keep up.

08-01-2002, 10:22 PM	#14
slowEJ6 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Oviedo, FL Age: 42 Posts: 3,195	actually there are DOHC F22's. dont believe me? hit me up on AIM, ill be more than happy to show you several links proving it. i say turbo your b18b. installing an H series isnt really all that difficult at all. a little more work to it than a regular B series, but its not super hard.

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