how LOW to GO???

i know there have been posts already about drops 100 or so times i am sure. but i havent seen any that relate to this exact question

i have a 97 Civic EX 4dr..currently i have 205/50/15 wheels that are 23.07 inches tall

i want a set of 17" Enkei RSF2 rims that are 205/40/17. These are 23.45" tall........STock height is 23.46" for 185/65/14 wheels, so there is all of .01" difference in the overall height of the wheels and tires

I do not completely understand the MONSTER TRUCK look thing with having bigger rims and no drop. iS it because the rim is so much larger in comparison to the tire?

i want to drop around 1 & 1/2 inches, i want to drop for PERFORMANCE and HANDLING as well as LOOKS. but more for the handling....

i do NOT want to slam my car since i put 20-25K miles on my ride AS JDMB16 knows living in MEChaniCsVille u tend to drive alot to go places...

does anyone have any pictures of their rides with 17" and 1 & 1/2" drop or close to it??? please post so i can see.

i know to get a camber kit when dropping...Hell i need one anyways doing all those J turns and Power Slides on back roads in King William

please help me out and lets see those rides

here is a pic of my car now.

Before anyone says anything about my rims I think that WHITE rims DO LOOK good on some cars and mine is one of them!

i do not particularly like my rims that i have now which is y i am getting the Enkei RSF2 rims

and here is a PIC of the Enkei RSF2 rims

what does everyone think about these rims? i like them alot better than 99% of the rims that i have seen on the market



sorry for multi posting but Hondaman aint showed me how to work the pictures yet

[ebpda9]

it all depends on the car. my car looked like an suv at stock height with or the 14" dubs. i think your car will look good with those rims and a 1.5" drop. the fender gap is not that big anyways

is the MONSTER TRUCK look kinda like what jjcivic92
white hb looks like? cause of the room in between the tire and the wheel well?

what exactly is BAT ROLLING for ur fenders? my tires are wide as hell now and if i drop wont i rub?

[pdiggitydogg]

Originally posted by RavingCivic
is the MONSTER TRUCK look kinda like what jjcivic92 white hb looks like?

ouch...but yeah

Id go with a 1.5" drop
Eibach ProKit's would be a good bet probably...dont drop it too low or you'll rub everytime you turn

rolling the fenders makes it easier to fit larger wheels in there.

i really didnt mean it in a bad way, but i remember reading a thread on his car and someone said that, for him to drop i think

CMon guys (and Ladies) post those Pics of ur Dropped rides so we can see the beauties

heheh, heres mine dropped at 2.5. why yes, the camber is horrible!!!!!! but my alignment is mysteriously straight.....

^^^ ooh clean and that cup fits in so well

[slowEJ6]

1) you get the "monster 4x4" look because you are using a smaller sidewall. (i.e 40 series instead of 60)

2) dont waste your money on the eibach pro-kit. get h&r/neuspeed sport springs for $140 and keep the money saved in your bank account.

3) if you want performance and handling - go with a 15" or 16" lightweight wheel and strap on a 205/50-15 or 215(205)/40(45)-16.

4) at a 1"/1.5" drop you wont need a camber kit. just get an alignment.

5) as for rubbing, you wont rub if your wheels have the right offset. especially at a 1.5" drop.

6) car in sig....dropped about 2.75".....camber kit only in the rear (washers)....alignment done only in the front......
had the tires for 2yrs.....had the car that low for about 5 months. no abnormal wear, sold them (wheels & tires) to a guy in NY and he rode on the same tires until someone cut them.

7) a 205 is not even remotely wide.

8) euro tails are not ok.

i cant drop more than an inch in the rear caue i am only 1 1/4" tire to fender,

205 is wide eneough with the wrong offset to sit out to far ie. my 205/50/15 are not sitting under the car totally, and extra inch of traction to the ground makes a hell of a lot of difference in cornering.

U mean to tell me that a 205/40/17 doesnt handle well? i was told that with less sidewall car handles better.

the Nuespeed springs that u speak of, do they have a matched set of shocks that u can get?

ALtezza's are fine, esp on my car, i am not going for sleeper look. and the damn stock tails for the 97 sedan/coupe suCK. i might take the altezza's off when i get the gunmetal rims but not until then.

[slowEJ6]

i wasnt speaking in a way in which you had to justify your mods.....it was just my opinion.

anyway.....a 205/40-17 will handle good. but most 17's are heavy, which doesnt help in the way of performance.
so a 205/40-16 will handle just as good and weigh less (depending on the rim, of course).
or a 215/40-16 could be had as well - just depends on the offset of the wheel.

if your car is stock height - a 205 isnt going to sit under the fender. when you lower it, negative camber will come into play and it will tuck in - again, depending on offset.

for some reason i already have negative camber in the rear and my current wheels barely sit under the fender not insde of it, but then again i dont think i have a 42mm offset.

the BUddy Club wheel that i posted isonly 17lbs at 205/40/17 The enkei RSF2 that are prviously posted were like 20lbs, i know its only 3lbs but i am told that makes all the difference in the world when it comes to wheel weight.

does anyone know y my REAR would be sitting 1 1/4" from tire to fender and the front is over 3" from tire to fender? i have 200lbs in the trunk but i am told that doesnt make a difference since that is average weight of a person sitting in the back seat could it be my rear shox are jsut worn?

Also what kind of SHoX did u get when u replaced ur springs?

[slowEJ6]

200lbs in the trunk will lower your car a bit......thats probably making the difference. is that 200lbs including your spare/tools?

3lbs is quite the difference in wheels......not to mention the buddy club wheels look a lot better (imo).

i dont have aftermarket shocks.....i havent driven/seen my car in almost 6 months so im not too worried about it right now. (its in FL, im in socal, waiting for a garage so i can ship it here).
however i cant decide if i want to go with a full coilover setup like teins or if i just want my dropzone coilovers w/ koni yellows.....

[TeriyakiBroccoli]

damn str8 buddy club rox.. I've got P1's on my car.. love em to death.

Originally posted by slow EJ6
or if i just want my dropzone coilovers w/ koni yellows.....

good choice w/ shocks but i duno about dropzone coilovers....

[slowEJ6]

ive had them for months......bit stiff, but no problems with em.

id rather have GC's.....but since GC's are $$ and i only paid $92 shipped for a set of new DZ coilovers, i cant really complain.

how do u compare ur DZ coilovers to GC coilovers?

[ebpda9]

i heard the DZ's are very stiff and i know a dude that blown his stock shocks in not even 24 hrs with them *cough*sheanny91accord*cough*