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11-14-2003, 10:05 AM

trying to find the most used forum for Honda/civic/Accura owners into serious engine tuning and modification. any hi volume forum suggestions ?
I can't seem to even give away performance fuel rails and want to hook up with those doing fuel upgrades

*AzCivic* · 11-14-2003, 10:20 AM

"performace" fuel rails are a joke.

but one of the most visited sites is www.honda-tech.com

11-14-2003, 12:30 PM

lol, performance fuel rails a joke?

Sure aren't a joke when you need to add more fuel because of detonation.

If you need to give them away, I'm in VA

yes, honda-tech.com is where it's at.

11-14-2003, 12:38 PM

thanks foir the lead.
the bigger reservoir volume of a holley rail prevent running out of fuel when you have huge injectors and a pressure regulator that is set to keep a certaiun pressure. You need th fuel on hand to not run over the supply capacity. When you say something , be specific , it is a hard thing to do some times , esp . when rushed .

*AzCivic* · 11-14-2003, 01:23 PM

the reason they are a joke is that the stock fuel rail supplies more than enough fuel for 400hp, actually the limit is somewhere near 600. furthermore I have never EVER heard of anyone going lean cause they're fuel rail just couldnt handle the necessary fuel flow.

now hurry everyone, start your arguments. let the rice talk begin!!!!!

nonovurbizniz · 11-14-2003, 03:49 PM

^he's right...

You're fuel consumption will not be aided by a larger volume of space for the pressurized fuel to be in.

The injectors will either exceed the feeding capacity of the pump or they will not...

The reason every stock turbo'd car has small diameter piping is because it's not the volume that counts anymore... it's underpressure... so the smaller the piping the faster the turbo can pressurize the system... once pressurized the only thing that will stop it from flowing enough air is the supply capability of the turbo... not the size of the piping.

So essentially all a larger fuel rail will do for you is take the fuel pump longer to come up to pressure at start up.

11-14-2003, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AzCivic

now hurry everyone, start your arguments. let the rice talk begin!!!!!

Oh boy! rice talk!

thermal · 11-16-2003, 12:34 AM

The most effective way to increase fuel flow to the cylinder is to enlarge the injector size period. Aftermarket fuel rails are a joke. To me it's more of a decoration anyway....

Shaved &/or Laid · 11-16-2003, 10:54 AM

well, i saw a tight-ass 3000GT DX-R with a wing taller than the roll bars on my friends $x4truck (i measure) and ChAmElEoN PaInT. His shit was so fly he must be hittin da naws all night yo. Talkin to them GirliEz on Dem CelliEz and illin' an shit stunnaz fo life.

Thanslation: Its been awhile since ive voiced wholehearted agreement with mr. Az on a controversial performance issue, but hes right. And that makes me right, too.

11-14-2003, 10:05 AM	#1
FOGdarter Posts: n/a	what is most used forum for engine tuners? trying to find the most used forum for Honda/civic/Accura owners into serious engine tuning and modification. any hi volume forum suggestions ? I can't seem to even give away performance fuel rails and want to hook up with those doing fuel upgrades

11-14-2003, 03:49 PM	#6
nonovurbizniz Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: ECUSA Age: 47 Posts: 2,693	^he's right... You're fuel consumption will not be aided by a larger volume of space for the pressurized fuel to be in. The injectors will either exceed the feeding capacity of the pump or they will not... The reason every stock turbo'd car has small diameter piping is because it's not the volume that counts anymore... it's underpressure... so the smaller the piping the faster the turbo can pressurize the system... once pressurized the only thing that will stop it from flowing enough air is the supply capability of the turbo... not the size of the piping. So essentially all a larger fuel rail will do for you is take the fuel pump longer to come up to pressure at start up. __________________ I am an A$$hole... take anything I say to heart at YOUR OWN RISK...

11-16-2003, 12:34 AM	#8
thermal Banning Machine Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: My Garage, Va. Posts: 5,547	The most effective way to increase fuel flow to the cylinder is to enlarge the injector size period. Aftermarket fuel rails are a joke. To me it's more of a decoration anyway.... __________________ Project Teg Visit the Turbo Forum

11-16-2003, 10:54 AM	#9
Shaved &/or Laid 4th Gear Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nashville Age: 37 Posts: 853	well, i saw a tight-ass 3000GT DX-R with a wing taller than the roll bars on my friends $x4truck (i measure) and ChAmElEoN PaInT. His shit was so fly he must be hittin da naws all night yo. Talkin to them GirliEz on Dem CelliEz and illin' an shit stunnaz fo life. Thanslation: Its been awhile since ive voiced wholehearted agreement with mr. Az on a controversial performance issue, but hes right. And that makes me right, too. __________________ Doody Ej1 Yse.

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11-14-2003, 10:20 AM	#2
AzCivic Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Az Age: 43 Posts: 3,804	"performace" fuel rails are a joke. but one of the most visited sites is www.honda-tech.com

11-14-2003, 12:30 PM	#3
JDMB16 Posts: n/a	lol, performance fuel rails a joke? Sure aren't a joke when you need to add more fuel because of detonation. If you need to give them away, I'm in VA yes, honda-tech.com is where it's at.

11-14-2003, 12:38 PM	#4
FOGdarter Posts: n/a	thanks foir the lead. the bigger reservoir volume of a holley rail prevent running out of fuel when you have huge injectors and a pressure regulator that is set to keep a certaiun pressure. You need th fuel on hand to not run over the supply capacity. When you say something , be specific , it is a hard thing to do some times , esp . when rushed .

11-14-2003, 01:23 PM	#5
AzCivic Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Az Age: 43 Posts: 3,804	the reason they are a joke is that the stock fuel rail supplies more than enough fuel for 400hp, actually the limit is somewhere near 600. furthermore I have never EVER heard of anyone going lean cause they're fuel rail just couldnt handle the necessary fuel flow. now hurry everyone, start your arguments. let the rice talk begin!!!!!