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GT40FIED · 03-17-2003, 07:11 AM

Ok....this has my brain turning. I know many of you aren't exactly familar with the magazine 5.0 And Super Fords , but the last issue had a contest contemplating the "King of the Street". This has baffled me. Here's the mods of the winner:

Ford A4 block (racing block...not street oriented) punched to a 347
Ported Trick Flow heads w/ 2.05" intake valves and 1.60 exhaust
Renegade class cam specs
All forged/billet internals
Ported intake w/ huge throttle body
Twin fuel pumps w/ 83lb/hr. injectors
Aftermarket FMU
F.A.S.T programmable DFI system
Full aftermarket ignition
1 7/8" Kooks headers
Paxton Novi 2000 blower @ 20lbs of boost
Super Comp C4 w/ manual valve body and 4,500rpm stall converter
8.8" rear end w/ Moser spool
Stricktly drag racing front and rear suspension and brakes including skinny wheels and tires up front.

Now...I didn't get nearly as detailed as the magazine, but I would think a car with a 10 point roll cage and fat ass rear slicks that runs a 9.48 @145mph is certainly not a street car. Sadly, the car makes less power than my car (just barely at 645hp) but my car is probably about a full second slower because mine is a dedicated street car. I could race it at the track I suppose if there were someone who'd let me run it. My point is that this is obviously a bracket racer that is a "street" car by name only. Any car could be street legal here since there's no emmisions regulations. Hell...there's a 60-something Corvette that runs 7s and could technically be street driven by this standard. So my question is, when does a car stop being a street car and become a track queen?

03-17-2003, 08:30 AM

I hear where you are coming from, a "street car" should be a real street car.

I dont even think its cool when people bring their "street car" to the track and take out the system, the rear seats, and put on slicks instead of their street radials just to get a time that is 2 tenths of a second faster.

Do you have any pics of your car GT40FIED?

03-17-2003, 09:08 AM

the balls to run it on the street.....

ebpda9 · 03-17-2003, 09:14 AM

u mean a street racing car ? i would say something that runs ridiculous low times in the 1/4 and still is smog legal

GT40FIED · 03-17-2003, 06:25 PM

I don't know...I guess to me a true street car is one that's powerful but has the manners to take your date out on the weekends. It doesn't have a skull-rattling suspension, an awkward transmission, or a really grumpy cam (or cams for you modular motored guys). Somehow a spool, a manual valve body, and a dedicated drag suspension don't cut it as a true street car for me. I've sacrificed a great deal of raceability in favor of streetability and I'm happy to have done so. I guess I think of a street car that's as comfortable on cruise night as it is on a strip.

ford50forlife · 03-17-2003, 08:53 PM

hands down the fastest street car i know of is the BLACK LX of HOWIE AUTOMOTIVE !!

get this

302!! with single turbo fully worked motor dynoed 1720hp <---- not typo

FULL INTERIOR, STREET LEGAL, DRIVEN 30 MILES TO THE TRACK, COMPLETELY stock exterior albeit the 2' cowel hood to fit the intake manifold, still has a system and accessories, and clips off 8.20's@165mph....

every time he goes to tech inspection and people ask how quick the car is they politely inform him its a 1/4 mile track and not an 1/8th mile

a street car to me is everyday usuable with all accessories, smog legal, still being able to be registered, and insured legally.

03-17-2003, 07:11 AM	#1
GT40FIED Best...mod...ever Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: At the end of the longest line Age: 43 Posts: 7,451	What makes a "street" car? Ok....this has my brain turning. I know many of you aren't exactly familar with the magazine 5.0 And Super Fords , but the last issue had a contest contemplating the "King of the Street". This has baffled me. Here's the mods of the winner: Ford A4 block (racing block...not street oriented) punched to a 347 Ported Trick Flow heads w/ 2.05" intake valves and 1.60 exhaust Renegade class cam specs All forged/billet internals Ported intake w/ huge throttle body Twin fuel pumps w/ 83lb/hr. injectors Aftermarket FMU F.A.S.T programmable DFI system Full aftermarket ignition 1 7/8" Kooks headers Paxton Novi 2000 blower @ 20lbs of boost Super Comp C4 w/ manual valve body and 4,500rpm stall converter 8.8" rear end w/ Moser spool Stricktly drag racing front and rear suspension and brakes including skinny wheels and tires up front. Now...I didn't get nearly as detailed as the magazine, but I would think a car with a 10 point roll cage and fat ass rear slicks that runs a 9.48 @145mph is certainly not a street car. Sadly, the car makes less power than my car (just barely at 645hp) but my car is probably about a full second slower because mine is a dedicated street car. I could race it at the track I suppose if there were someone who'd let me run it. My point is that this is obviously a bracket racer that is a "street" car by name only. Any car could be street legal here since there's no emmisions regulations. Hell...there's a 60-something Corvette that runs 7s and could technically be street driven by this standard. So my question is, when does a car stop being a street car and become a track queen? __________________ 1984 1/2 Mustang GT350 #842, Faster than you...nuff said Anna Fan Club President/Dictator Someday, in the event that mankind actually figures out what it is that this world actually revoles around, thousands of people are going to be shocked and perplexed that it was not them. Sometimes this includes me. "If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." - George Orwell Welcome to the new Amerika

03-17-2003, 09:14 AM	#4
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 44 Posts: 17,266	u mean a street racing car ? i would say something that runs ridiculous low times in the 1/4 and still is smog legal __________________

03-17-2003, 06:25 PM	#5
GT40FIED Best...mod...ever Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: At the end of the longest line Age: 43 Posts: 7,451	I don't know...I guess to me a true street car is one that's powerful but has the manners to take your date out on the weekends. It doesn't have a skull-rattling suspension, an awkward transmission, or a really grumpy cam (or cams for you modular motored guys). Somehow a spool, a manual valve body, and a dedicated drag suspension don't cut it as a true street car for me. I've sacrificed a great deal of raceability in favor of streetability and I'm happy to have done so. I guess I think of a street car that's as comfortable on cruise night as it is on a strip. __________________ 1984 1/2 Mustang GT350 #842, Faster than you...nuff said Anna Fan Club President/Dictator Someday, in the event that mankind actually figures out what it is that this world actually revoles around, thousands of people are going to be shocked and perplexed that it was not them. Sometimes this includes me. "If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." - George Orwell Welcome to the new Amerika

03-17-2003, 08:53 PM	#6
ford50forlife 4th Gear Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: CONNETICUT WOOT! Age: 41 Posts: 619	hands down the fastest street car i know of is the BLACK LX of HOWIE AUTOMOTIVE !! get this 302!! with single turbo fully worked motor dynoed 1720hp <---- not typo FULL INTERIOR, STREET LEGAL, DRIVEN 30 MILES TO THE TRACK, COMPLETELY stock exterior albeit the 2' cowel hood to fit the intake manifold, still has a system and accessories, and clips off 8.20's@165mph.... every time he goes to tech inspection and people ask how quick the car is they politely inform him its a 1/4 mile track and not an 1/8th mile a street car to me is everyday usuable with all accessories, smog legal, still being able to be registered, and insured legally. __________________ 2640lbs with full tank minus me w/ 302cid check out the crustang and 88 cherokee @ www.cardomain.com/id/ford50forlife

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03-17-2003, 08:30 AM	#2
cashizslick Posts: n/a	I hear where you are coming from, a "street car" should be a real street car. I dont even think its cool when people bring their "street car" to the track and take out the system, the rear seats, and put on slicks instead of their street radials just to get a time that is 2 tenths of a second faster. Do you have any pics of your car GT40FIED?

03-17-2003, 09:08 AM	#3
oc civic Posts: n/a	the balls to run it on the street.....