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Old 02-28-2003, 07:58 AM   #1
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Why I hate MTV

Ok...this thread could go on for a full page with me ranting on this topic by myself, but I have one particular thing in mind (besides that MTV apparently turned into BET while I wasn't looking). I caught a few minutes of it today before work and it was some post Grammy bullshit. They had a comment on there by a girl that just about set me off. It was something to the effect that Norah Jones (who won 5 awards) was a "no talent lounge singer" and Eminem (who I believe won a single award) was a "man with a message and he got robbed". Let me state that I'm a fan of neither of these people. Ok...Norah Jones has a pretty voice and can play piano rather well. Eminem can flip words well and come up with creative ryhmes. Talent comes in many forms and one isn't necessarily better than the other. Here's my issue...MTV attracts the sort of people who would even bother to make such a statement. Norah Jones is not talentless althought you or I may not find interest in her. Eminem has absolutely no message besides "I'll do my best to piss everyone off as much as possible and make money off of your sorry asses in the process". In the world of real music Norah Jones would win this fight but MTV is not a world of real music. It's a TRL teeny bopper Nelly-listening homo text-me-later kind of world. As I've stated before, appealing to the lowest common denominator will invariably make you a success and I'd like to thank MTV for proving my point. They've turned from a legitimate network that seriously influenced the music industry a decade and a half ago to playing whatever your 13 year old neighbor thinks is cool this week. They used to be a good way to find bands when they first started but now it's all about whatever drives the most commerce between the Real World and Road Rules. So, to MTV, I'd like to give the big fu(k you. May you all end up in the 8th and 9th circles of hell with the rest of the idoliters and traitors, respectively. Karma is a b!tch.
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Old 02-28-2003, 08:37 AM   #2
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so true. i rarely watch american mtv lately. 4 years ago in europe it was all different. i don't know about now
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Old 02-28-2003, 08:42 AM   #3
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Ok...this thread could go on for a full page with me ranting on this topic by myself, but I have one particular thing in mind (besides that MTV apparently turned into BET while I wasn't looking). I caught a few minutes of it today before work and it was some post Grammy bullshit. They had a comment on there by a girl that just about set me off. It was something to the effect that Norah Jones (who won 5 awards) was a "no talent lounge singer" and Eminem (who I believe won a single award) was a "man with a message and he got robbed". Let me state that I'm a fan of neither of these people. Ok...Norah Jones has a pretty voice and can play piano rather well. Eminem can flip words well and come up with creative ryhmes. Talent comes in many forms and one isn't necessarily better than the other. Here's my issue...MTV attracts the sort of people who would even bother to make such a statement. Norah Jones is not talentless althought you or I may not find interest in her. Eminem has absolutely no message besides "I'll do my best to piss everyone off as much as possible and make money off of your sorry asses in the process". In the world of real music Norah Jones would win this fight but MTV is not a world of real music. It's a TRL teeny bopper Nelly-listening homo text-me-later kind of world. As I've stated before, appealing to the lowest common denominator will invariably make you a success and I'd like to thank MTV for proving my point. They've turned from a legitimate network that seriously influenced the music industry a decade and a half ago to playing whatever your 13 year old neighbor thinks is cool this week. They used to be a good way to find bands when they first started but now it's all about whatever drives the most commerce between the Real World and Road Rules. So, to MTV, I'd like to give the big fu(k you. May you all end up in the 8th and 9th circles of hell with the rest of the idoliters and traitors, respectively. Karma is a b!tch.


your wrong.. you along with myself have just grown up... MTV has ALWAYS been the same following differant fads and such molding itself to fit the american youth.. go watch some early 90's mtv... come on man.. did hammer have a message.. lol NO of course not.. lol mtv is a complete joke, and is PURELY entertainment based... you have just grown out fo the entertainment it provides..
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Old 02-28-2003, 09:19 AM   #4
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Re: Re: Why I hate MTV

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your wrong.. you along with myself have just grown up... MTV has ALWAYS been the same following differant fads and such molding itself to fit the american youth.. go watch some early 90's mtv... come on man.. did hammer have a message.. lol NO of course not.. lol mtv is a complete joke, and is PURELY entertainment based... you have just grown out fo the entertainment it provides..

the only reason i kinda liked mtv in the mid 90's was they played greenday and rancid videos....

my take on the music industry:

it is a game, one that the "artists" play the people like pawns. they have fights, marrages, etc all for publicity. they want to be the biggest and best, they do stupid things to get on MTV news so by repitition of hearing their names you want to buy their stuff. the fight between eminem and christina agulara/britney i think was a whole publicity thing, just because if they can take air time away other singers, then they are the headlines. i have sat down and actualy thought about the pointless crap they talk about on MTV, and it makes me sick. music should be just that. maybe the band does some stuff to support the message they want to get across(rallys, charity work etc... if that dosnt conflict their ever so important image) im more impressed with bands who dont care what people think of them, and do things because they want to.
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Old 02-28-2003, 09:21 AM   #5
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That is very true. It is targeting at teenagers..weither they should be watching it or not is completely different. Theres a lot of shows on there that I wouldnt let a 13 yr old watch. Gosh...remember the good ol' days of MTV...it was so great! Remote Control! And the music video's were so cool! Now there are full of tits and azz. OHH SO EXCITING!!! Ugh..ticks me off. MTV sucks.

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Old 02-28-2003, 10:30 AM   #6
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Thats all I have to say about it..
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Old 02-28-2003, 01:36 PM   #7
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"In the world of real music Norah Jones would win this fight but MTV is not a world of real music. It's a TRL teeny bopper Nelly-listening homo text-me-later kind of world. As I've stated before, appealing to the lowest common denominator will invariably make you a success and I'd like to thank MTV for proving my point."

I pretty much agree with you I was just wondering why homo came up in it?....crazy... MTV is just entertainment...it's turned poppy, but so has the rest of our culture.....it's selling and they'll continue to sell until it doesnt'
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Old 02-28-2003, 02:00 PM   #8
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Everyones definition of a musician is different....and lets just let it at that.
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Old 02-28-2003, 06:23 PM   #9
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Re: Re: Why I hate MTV

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your wrong.. you along with myself have just grown up... MTV has ALWAYS been the same following differant fads and such molding itself to fit the american youth.. go watch some early 90's mtv... come on man.. did hammer have a message.. lol NO of course not.. lol mtv is a complete joke, and is PURELY entertainment based... you have just grown out fo the entertainment it provides..


Actually, MTV used to be a MUSIC NETWORK. At their inception they started off with 120 videos and no bullshit filler shows. There was no TRL or Sorority Life or Real World. It was actually about playing music and many of the more influential bands of the '80s were brought to a ton of people by MTV since the radio was stuck on top 40 crap. What the hell does MC Hammer have to do with any of this? Did he have a message? No. But he sucked too. Now he's broke and, much like most of MTV's loyal fanbase, should go suck a tailpipe. Of course MTV is entertainment based. Show me one TV network that isn't. Even CNN is entertaining to those who want 24 hour news. But the fact that it's entertainment based shouldn't get in the way of legitimacy. To site CNN again, the don't call themselves Cable News Network and then play 6 hours of "Friends" or "Everyone Loves Raymond". By diluting their programming to little nanosecond sound bites and flashy graphics which have surely lowered our intelligence and shortened the attention span of America at large. My problem with MTV isn't what it does...it's that it still does what it does while claiming to be something else. Even VH1 is more entertaining...at least they have Behind the Music (even if they do play MTV's leftovers). Damn myself for not paying for digital cable so I could get Much Music. *sigh* So, once again, a big FU(K YOU MTV.
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Old 02-28-2003, 06:54 PM   #10
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Old 02-28-2003, 07:28 PM   #11
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Old 02-28-2003, 10:00 PM   #12
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No joke. For a long ass time that was the only redeeming quality of the entire network. Funny thing was that Mike Judge made a show that was for teenagers that did nothing but make fun of teenagers and it became so incredibly popular with....teenagers. I can't imagine MTV viewers not picking up on something so subtle. Ahhhh...irony. Now they've got Clone High which is actually really damn funny. It's the only time I'll watch MTV sober (besides All Things Rock every now and then...I just hate those guys from Good Charlotte. Punk rock meets corporate america. Plus they seem to have stretched the definition of "rock" to it's limits).
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