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10-12-2002, 10:29 PM

Hello, just passing thru due to a MIL on my wifes 96 Civic which is completely stock I might add. Anyway from your search function I found out how to get the codes to flash. It's code 41 primary O2 sensor heating circuit or something like that. Then I tried searching again to find out if there a diagnostic steps to determine if the O2 is really malfunctioning but came up with nothing. Are Civics known to set the MIL with anything related to either 02 sensor on higher mileage engines, I don't happen to have a service manual (OEM or after-market) to show proper dianostic steps. The car has about 77K if that matters, it's been well maintained over the years and very reliable. Since we got it new all I've changed are tires, fluids, and regular tune-up stuff. Heck it still has the OEM battery. FYI, I also tried pulling the ECU fuse for a short while to see if the MIL will go away and it didn't. Should I try diagnosing the code 41 or just pop in a new sensor? I have yet to take a closer look at the harness for loose or corroded terminals, so you never know.

Thanks, MIKE

thermal · 10-13-2002, 02:53 PM

try cleaning your O2 sensor first with hot soapy water. then reset your ECU. inspect the wiring harness going to it. if the insulation goes bad, it will cause a CEL for sure.

10-13-2002, 04:30 PM

After posting that thread I went out to the garage to see if I could pull the sensor. To my surprise the sucker was pretty tight and that confined area doesn't make it any easier. I even soak it over night with penetrating spray and nothing. The confined area really makes it hard to use basic hand tools because the radiator fan and AC lines were in the way. If shouldn't be necessary to use a 02 sensor socket in-order to get it out should it? Anyway thanks again and I guess I'll try cleaning the secondary sensor also while I'm at it.

ShagginJet · 10-13-2002, 09:12 PM

Actually if you have the Hanyes book for your car it'll show you how to test it, via volt meter and just some other common tools. Well atleast for my 89'...

10-13-2002, 10:08 PM

Even though the Haynes manual probably inexpensive I'll try the hot soapy water first. This car been so reliable I'll "probably" never need a manual for as long as we own it (knock on wood) These FWD 4 bangers are relatively easy to work on, from tune up to timing belts and everything in between. With it being stock helps also, you know the reliability factor lowers the more serious mods you apply

slowEJ6 · 10-14-2002, 01:18 AM

yeah reliability does decrease when you get into serious mods, but the fun doesnt.

good luck fixing your problem

10-12-2002, 10:29 PM	#1
CandiMan Posts: n/a	Ok, what's the deal? And yes I did search Hello, just passing thru due to a MIL on my wifes 96 Civic which is completely stock I might add. Anyway from your search function I found out how to get the codes to flash. It's code 41 primary O2 sensor heating circuit or something like that. Then I tried searching again to find out if there a diagnostic steps to determine if the O2 is really malfunctioning but came up with nothing. Are Civics known to set the MIL with anything related to either 02 sensor on higher mileage engines, I don't happen to have a service manual (OEM or after-market) to show proper dianostic steps. The car has about 77K if that matters, it's been well maintained over the years and very reliable. Since we got it new all I've changed are tires, fluids, and regular tune-up stuff. Heck it still has the OEM battery. FYI, I also tried pulling the ECU fuse for a short while to see if the MIL will go away and it didn't. Should I try diagnosing the code 41 or just pop in a new sensor? I have yet to take a closer look at the harness for loose or corroded terminals, so you never know. Thanks, MIKE

10-13-2002, 02:53 PM	#2
thermal Banning Machine Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: My Garage, Va. Posts: 5,547	try cleaning your O2 sensor first with hot soapy water. then reset your ECU. inspect the wiring harness going to it. if the insulation goes bad, it will cause a CEL for sure. __________________ Project Teg Visit the Turbo Forum

10-13-2002, 04:30 PM	#3
CandiMan Posts: n/a	Thanks After posting that thread I went out to the garage to see if I could pull the sensor. To my surprise the sucker was pretty tight and that confined area doesn't make it any easier. I even soak it over night with penetrating spray and nothing. The confined area really makes it hard to use basic hand tools because the radiator fan and AC lines were in the way. If shouldn't be necessary to use a 02 sensor socket in-order to get it out should it? Anyway thanks again and I guess I'll try cleaning the secondary sensor also while I'm at it.

10-13-2002, 09:12 PM	#4
ShagginJet Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,584	Actually if you have the Hanyes book for your car it'll show you how to test it, via volt meter and just some other common tools. Well atleast for my 89'... __________________ RECENTLY UPDATED!!! 5-20-04 http://63.249.135.19/hdrive/car/index.htm

10-13-2002, 10:08 PM	#5
CandiMan Posts: n/a	Yes Even though the Haynes manual probably inexpensive I'll try the hot soapy water first. This car been so reliable I'll "probably" never need a manual for as long as we own it (knock on wood) These FWD 4 bangers are relatively easy to work on, from tune up to timing belts and everything in between. With it being stock helps also, you know the reliability factor lowers the more serious mods you apply

10-14-2002, 01:18 AM	#6
slowEJ6 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Oviedo, FL Age: 42 Posts: 3,195	yeah reliability does decrease when you get into serious mods, but the fun doesnt. good luck fixing your problem

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