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09-04-2002, 03:39 AM

I have a 97 civic EX. How makes the best spark plugs and what material is better? I hear alot of platinum and the new iridiums. What do you guys think?

*Whtehnda93DXSdn* · 09-04-2002, 08:52 AM

well to be honest I would say go w/ NGK V-power for your honda. I wouldn't suggest iridium plugs unless you run like NOS or something.

Just my $.02 hope it might help a bit...

Racing Rice · 09-04-2002, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Whtehnda93DXSdn
well to be honest I would say go w/ NGK V-power for your honda...

Ditto

ebpda9 · 09-04-2002, 10:00 AM

i have the v-powers, but they make the car hesiate after a while.

09-05-2002, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hondaman-iac
i have the v-powers, but they make the car hesiate after a while.

! what do you mean hesitate? btw how much do they cost?

Racing Rice · 09-05-2002, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hondaman-iac
i have the v-powers, but they make the car hesiate after a while.

V-Powers came in my car stock, Ive put 3 different sets in the and have never had a problem. I think its just your car.

You can usually find them for about 8-10$ for a set of 4 depending on the place you buy them.

*BlackDeuceCoupe* · 09-05-2002, 03:28 PM

Spark plugs have been around for over 100 years and they haven't changed a lot. They spark, they erode, they die. The trick is to replace them somewhere between 'erode' and 'die' phase.

All the improvements, so called, have been to the electrode TIP. Nothing has been done to the ground. So, what we have now are spark plugs with wonderful 'new millenium' tips that last forever and sh!tty grounds that erode just like they did in 1920.

What's the best? Generally speaking, for most ppl, that would be the 'tried and true' copper-core spark plug, i.e. the NGK V-Powers mentioned above. They work great, they're cheap, but they don't last very long. The hot setup, if you'll pardon the pun, is to replace them every 15-20k. That'll put you right in the middle of that erode/fail cycle I was talking about.

The absolute best, of course, are silver-core plugs. But, they're expensive, hard to find, and don't come in as many different flavors as copper-core plugs.

As far as which plugs are the most efficient:

Once again, silver-core is the best, but copper-core is a close second.

One thing to mention here is the thermal conductivity thing. One of the most important features of a spark plug is its ability to carry heat away from the combustion chamber. THIS IS MUY IMPORTANTE! And, that's the primary reason you are supposed to use a torque wrench when you install plugs; to allow proper heat transfer. I don't want to put you to sleep, so we won't go any further into this other than to say, look at the chart and you will see copper-core is far and away a better choice than than tiny platinum or iridium tipped plugs.

Hope this helps. Personally, I think Iridium TIPPED plugs are a waste of money. If you're going to 'waste' your money, buy copper-core plugs and replace them at every oil change. That add about $8.00 to the cost, but you will ALWAYS be running at peak performance levels.

09-05-2002, 09:41 PM

Do they still make Split Fire plugs how are they???

09-09-2002, 12:41 PM

great post HondaDeuceCoupe!

09-10-2002, 03:33 AM

Thanks, BDC. That was a great post. Do you know of any place to find the silver-core plugs. or approximately how much $ they are?

*BlackDeuceCoupe* · 09-10-2002, 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ricerX
Thanks, BDC. That was a great post. Do you know of any place to find the silver-core plugs. or approximately how much $ they are?

Yeah, Nology sells them. Here is the URL:

http://www.nology.com/silver.html

They're like 8 bones each. Hondas use the S3F plug. You can buy a whole set of NGK V-Powers for the price of one Silverstone spark plug...

09-04-2002, 03:39 AM	#1
fadednite Posts: n/a	Best spark plugs for civics I have a 97 civic EX. How makes the best spark plugs and what material is better? I hear alot of platinum and the new iridiums. What do you guys think?

09-04-2002, 08:52 AM	#2
Whtehnda93DXSdn It has 4 Doors... Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Fredericksburg,Va Age: 49 Posts: 907	well to be honest I would say go w/ NGK V-power for your honda. I wouldn't suggest iridium plugs unless you run like NOS or something. Just my $.02 hope it might help a bit... __________________ Another good forum site: Tuners Alliance

09-04-2002, 10:00 AM	#4
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 43 Posts: 17,266	i have the v-powers, but they make the car hesiate after a while. __________________

09-05-2002, 03:28 PM	#7
BlackDeuceCoupe The Great Ape Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Skull Island Posts: 774	Spark plugs have been around for over 100 years and they haven't changed a lot. They spark, they erode, they die. The trick is to replace them somewhere between 'erode' and 'die' phase. All the improvements, so called, have been to the electrode TIP. Nothing has been done to the ground. So, what we have now are spark plugs with wonderful 'new millenium' tips that last forever and sh!tty grounds that erode just like they did in 1920. What's the best? Generally speaking, for most ppl, that would be the 'tried and true' copper-core spark plug, i.e. the NGK V-Powers mentioned above. They work great, they're cheap, but they don't last very long. The hot setup, if you'll pardon the pun, is to replace them every 15-20k. That'll put you right in the middle of that erode/fail cycle I was talking about. The absolute best, of course, are silver-core plugs. But, they're expensive, hard to find, and don't come in as many different flavors as copper-core plugs. As far as which plugs are the most efficient: Once again, silver-core is the best, but copper-core is a close second. One thing to mention here is the thermal conductivity thing. One of the most important features of a spark plug is its ability to carry heat away from the combustion chamber. THIS IS MUY IMPORTANTE! And, that's the primary reason you are supposed to use a torque wrench when you install plugs; to allow proper heat transfer. I don't want to put you to sleep, so we won't go any further into this other than to say, look at the chart and you will see copper-core is far and away a better choice than than tiny platinum or iridium tipped plugs. Hope this helps. Personally, I think Iridium TIPPED plugs are a waste of money. If you're going to 'waste' your money, buy copper-core plugs and replace them at every oil change. That add about $8.00 to the cost, but you will ALWAYS be running at peak performance levels. __________________ Posted by BlackDeuceCoupe - 2oo0 Honda CiViC FBP HX cOUPe "Pay special attention to posts by BlackDeuceCoupe, the instigator of the forum, who does a nice job of breaking my column and responses down." - Paul Brink, ASU State Press DISCLAIMER The existence of BDC is disputable. The existence of views, in the absence of anyone to hold them is problematic. The existence of the reader is left as an exercise in the second order coefficient.

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09-05-2002, 09:41 PM	#8
Civic Posts: n/a	Do they still make Split Fire plugs how are they???

09-09-2002, 12:41 PM	#9
fadednite Posts: n/a	great post HondaDeuceCoupe!

09-10-2002, 03:33 AM	#10
ricerX Posts: n/a	Thanks, BDC. That was a great post. Do you know of any place to find the silver-core plugs. or approximately how much $ they are?