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10-14-2002, 01:09 AM

A buddy of mine told me that the AEM short ram intake is better than the CAI from AEM because it has less bends in it. Is this true? I thought CAI was the better of the two. Is there a major difference in hp/torque between the two? Thank you for your time.

slowEJ6 · 10-14-2002, 01:21 AM

AEM CAI > AEM SRI.

CAI pulls in cooler air, SRI pulls in warmer air. cooler air = better. nuff said.

2ndGenTeg · 10-14-2002, 01:38 AM

In serious all motor builds, I favor the short ram because it keeps air velocity up under high RPM. For everything else, I recommend the CAI.

*pdiggitydogg* · 10-14-2002, 10:19 AM

I recommend the CAI also that is unless youre paranoid of water getting into your engine then go with the SRI. But you living in Cali you wont have a problem with it.
Dont anyone even tell me about dumb little thing to put on CAI to stop water because water has to pas through it first before it closes off. Plus who wants a flange in a high flow pipe?
If you get CAI and your area has literally flooded just remove the CAI and put the filter directly on the intake.

10-14-2002, 11:18 AM

i've used both on my '97 Civic EX, and both gave the same "power" gains ... if there were any.

The only difference I noticed was that when it was 85 degrees or hotter outside, the car felt more consistent with the CAI.

10-14-2002, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VieT916
i've used both on my '97 Civic EX, and both gave the same "power" gains ... if there were any. The only difference I noticed was that when it was 85 degrees or hotter outside, the car felt more consistent with the CAI.

i have the cai on my civic i agree that theres isnt much difference in hp gained from the sri vs. cai. my car is a single cam so it really didnt matter which i used....i wasnt going to get mu ch power off it anyway. if u have a dohc, i would definitely go with the cai. ull see more difference than the sri. if u only have a single, it wont make much difference which u choose. might as well get the sri...its cheaper.

-amy

10-14-2002, 07:07 PM

Courtesy of 'Hondatuning' magazine (meaning both were tested on hondas):

AEM CAI: +20.7 HP, +5.3 lb-ft or torque

AEM SRI: +5.4 HP, +4.9 lb of torque

...self explanitory.

94_AcCoRd_EX · 10-14-2002, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by OPAKRACING
Courtesy of 'Hondatuning' magazine (meaning both were tested on hondas):

AEM CAI: +20.7 HP, +5.3 lb-ft or torque

AEM SRI: +5.4 HP, +4.9 lb of torque

...self explanitory.

That must have been on a very built car to get those #s. What car was it exactly?

94_AcCoRd_EX · 10-14-2002, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pdiggitydogg
Dont anyone even tell me about dumb little thing to put on CAI to stop water because water has to pas through it first before it closes off.

I'm not a fan of the valve either, but the water does not have to hit the valve to activate. It works on a pressure drop principal. The intake will suck air from wherever its easiest. If the pipe becomes submerged, it will suck air in from the valve.

10-14-2002, 07:15 PM

YEA..NO SHIT....20 HP FROM A CAI ON WHAT CAR??

10-14-2002, 07:17 PM

haha, i just read the article before the data, and it said it was on the RSX.

10-14-2002, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 94_AcCoRd_EX
I'm not a fan of the valve either, but the water does not have to hit the valve to activate. It works on a pressure drop principal. The intake will suck air from wherever its easiest. If the pipe becomes submerged, it will suck air in from the valve.

yea..i have the valve, but i never put it on..i should get around to doing that...lol

94_AcCoRd_EX · 10-14-2002, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by OPAKRACING
haha, i just read the article before the data, and it said it was on the RSX.

Stock?!?!

I have a hard time believing those large #s. What issue/page?

94_AcCoRd_EX · 10-14-2002, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by imports_only98
yea..i have the valve, but i never put it on..i should get around to doing that...lol

Lol, well I had one on and took it off

10-14-2002, 07:39 PM

the October/November issue, page: 60

slowEJ6 · 10-15-2002, 08:40 PM

hahaha 20.7hp.
riiiiiiiiiight, OBD3 is all of a sudden a modders dream.

10-15-2002, 09:53 PM

the magazine said that. lol, i doubt that they're lieing.

10-21-2002, 05:25 PM

I thought intakes HP gains where based on a percentage? and i thought cooler air means more dense air = more air, period! Hot air intake pipes means less air, doesnt it? it is said that for every 10 degree F, means 1% gains or loss in HP? Shorter intakes, mean higher volocity, i think its more like tube diameter, the smaller the higher the volocity, of course if you go to small, then it becomes restrictive...The problem with small dia. piping short or long is that you loose volume, without volume you loose torque....in most cases with one streight small diameter, you will get peek HP but no torque. So you loose HP and torque in the lower and mid range, but kick A$$ in the higher range, because the air is supplied quicker to your high reving engine.....one more thing, bigger is not always better either (when it comes to intakes), when using large diameter pipes, like enjen ( i think thats the name) you cause the bottle neck effect, which can be worse at the throttle body, killing your volocity completely, same old song and dance!....my 2 cents, im alldone.

4jacks · 10-21-2002, 08:21 PM

Dang.... I'se getting me a AEM CAI with the Decal !

Then I'll be pushing 200hp

10-14-2002, 01:09 AM	#1
Sponjah Posts: n/a	AEM Short RAM Intake vs. AEM CAI A buddy of mine told me that the AEM short ram intake is better than the CAI from AEM because it has less bends in it. Is this true? I thought CAI was the better of the two. Is there a major difference in hp/torque between the two? Thank you for your time.

10-21-2002, 08:21 PM	#19
4jacks Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Cecil County, Maryland Age: 45 Posts: 1,129	Dang.... I'se getting me a AEM CAI with the Decal ! Then I'll be pushing 200hp __________________ Patrick 4jacks 4jacks@gmail.com Happy Honda'ing

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10-14-2002, 01:21 AM	#2
slowEJ6 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Oviedo, FL Age: 42 Posts: 3,195	AEM CAI > AEM SRI. CAI pulls in cooler air, SRI pulls in warmer air. cooler air = better. nuff said.

10-14-2002, 01:38 AM	#3
2ndGenTeg 4th Gear Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Boulder, CO Age: 44 Posts: 830	In serious all motor builds, I favor the short ram because it keeps air velocity up under high RPM. For everything else, I recommend the CAI.

10-14-2002, 10:19 AM	#4
pdiggitydogg Yahoo Watashi wa kattaze! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Meanwhile, up in The D... Age: 40 Posts: 10,579	I recommend the CAI also that is unless youre paranoid of water getting into your engine then go with the SRI. But you living in Cali you wont have a problem with it. Dont anyone even tell me about dumb little thing to put on CAI to stop water because water has to pas through it first before it closes off. Plus who wants a flange in a high flow pipe? If you get CAI and your area has literally flooded just remove the CAI and put the filter directly on the intake.

10-14-2002, 11:18 AM	#5
VieT916 Posts: n/a	i've used both on my '97 Civic EX, and both gave the same "power" gains ... if there were any. The only difference I noticed was that when it was 85 degrees or hotter outside, the car felt more consistent with the CAI.

10-14-2002, 07:07 PM	#7
OPAKRACING Posts: n/a	Courtesy of 'Hondatuning' magazine (meaning both were tested on hondas): AEM CAI: +20.7 HP, +5.3 lb-ft or torque AEM SRI: +5.4 HP, +4.9 lb of torque ...self explanitory.

10-14-2002, 07:15 PM	#10
imports_only98 Posts: n/a	YEA..NO SHIT....20 HP FROM A CAI ON WHAT CAR??

10-14-2002, 07:17 PM	#11
OPAKRACING Posts: n/a	haha, i just read the article before the data, and it said it was on the RSX.

10-14-2002, 07:39 PM	#15
OPAKRACING Posts: n/a	the October/November issue, page: 60

10-15-2002, 08:40 PM	#16
slowEJ6 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Oviedo, FL Age: 42 Posts: 3,195	hahaha 20.7hp. riiiiiiiiiight, OBD3 is all of a sudden a modders dream.

10-15-2002, 09:53 PM	#17
OPAKRACING Posts: n/a	the magazine said that. lol, i doubt that they're lieing.

10-21-2002, 05:25 PM	#18
Alldone Posts: n/a	I thought intakes HP gains where based on a percentage? and i thought cooler air means more dense air = more air, period! Hot air intake pipes means less air, doesnt it? it is said that for every 10 degree F, means 1% gains or loss in HP? Shorter intakes, mean higher volocity, i think its more like tube diameter, the smaller the higher the volocity, of course if you go to small, then it becomes restrictive...The problem with small dia. piping short or long is that you loose volume, without volume you loose torque....in most cases with one streight small diameter, you will get peek HP but no torque. So you loose HP and torque in the lower and mid range, but kick A$$ in the higher range, because the air is supplied quicker to your high reving engine.....one more thing, bigger is not always better either (when it comes to intakes), when using large diameter pipes, like enjen ( i think thats the name) you cause the bottle neck effect, which can be worse at the throttle body, killing your volocity completely, same old song and dance!....my 2 cents, im alldone.