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2ndGenTeg · 04-30-2002, 03:09 AM

First, about the Toda cams. They're Killer VTEC, not VTEC Killer.

I don't know what you thought you read, but there's no cam that eliminates VTEC. The cam would simply be one large lobe, and the other mechanics in the head would still be there and functioning, they just wouldn't make any difference.

The Killer VTEC cams from Toda are made for huge power. Intake lift is 12mm and the duration is a whopping 305 degrees. Made to tear up the dragstrip in an all motor setup. However, they SUCK for road racing and are far from streetable, both in smog and drivability. They would also never work for an FI application.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with using a Type R head for an FI application. The stock cams would be a little aggressive and would definitely need to be swapped. Other than that, enerything would be an improvement over the GSR- the larger ports, stiffer valvetrain, etc- all help in an FI setup.

The best head and manifold for an FI application is the B17A 2nd Gen GS-R. The cams were a little less aggressive than the B18C, making tuning to avoid blow-by a breeze. The valvetrain is nearly identical to that of the B18C. The best part, though, was the intake manifold. The runners are the shortest and fattest of any B series engine. Combine that with the (IMO) best crank in terms of displacement while preserving rod ratio, and you've got a killer engine.

Long live the B17A!!!

04-30-2002, 03:09 AM	#31
2ndGenTeg 4th Gear Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Boulder, CO Age: 43 Posts: 830	First, about the Toda cams. They're Killer VTEC, not VTEC Killer. I don't know what you thought you read, but there's no cam that eliminates VTEC. The cam would simply be one large lobe, and the other mechanics in the head would still be there and functioning, they just wouldn't make any difference. The Killer VTEC cams from Toda are made for huge power. Intake lift is 12mm and the duration is a whopping 305 degrees. Made to tear up the dragstrip in an all motor setup. However, they SUCK for road racing and are far from streetable, both in smog and drivability. They would also never work for an FI application. There's absolutely nothing wrong with using a Type R head for an FI application. The stock cams would be a little aggressive and would definitely need to be swapped. Other than that, enerything would be an improvement over the GSR- the larger ports, stiffer valvetrain, etc- all help in an FI setup. The best head and manifold for an FI application is the B17A 2nd Gen GS-R. The cams were a little less aggressive than the B18C, making tuning to avoid blow-by a breeze. The valvetrain is nearly identical to that of the B18C. The best part, though, was the intake manifold. The runners are the shortest and fattest of any B series engine. Combine that with the (IMO) best crank in terms of displacement while preserving rod ratio, and you've got a killer engine. Long live the B17A!!!