HSTuners - View Single Post - I don't believe in God, i dont' believe in religion

05-26-2002, 01:01 AM

Well after reading everyone's replies, I'd figure I would contribute my two cents. I’m actually glad that bootstrap posted this thread. I wanted to read what everyone's beliefs were since this topic is not often discussed.

I am catholic. I was raised catholic. I did not attend a catholic school so instead every Sunday I went to Sunday school. I pretty much didn't like going because I found it boring, like most kids do. I think I went to church twice within the last year. My dad is catholic and my mom is Methodist. She still attends the same church as the rest of us because "it’s a lot easier this way". My dad was raised catholic and he told me that his family did not discuss religion a whole lot, so naturally, that’s the way it was with my family.

I actually do not know what to believe. I do pray every night because nothing really bad has ever happened to me. Have you ever stopped to ask yourself, "Why are we here", which is basically the same as asking for what the meaning of life is, there is a point in which I ask myself, what “this” is. "This" being everything! How am I thinking? What is LIFE? What is all of THIS? How am I sitting here typing? What is matter? What is everything I know, everything I see? What is all of this which leads me to question this question, and how I am questioning this question? (Hope you understand) and with what, why. Etc. Sorry if you don't catch my drift, but it’s sort of hard to explain.

There are no answers to questions like these, and I’m not sure if there ever will be. I am also not sure if there is a god. How did we develop. Something "had" to have been created, materials, matter, and the big bang theory. Within that theory, how were all those chemicals or "reactants" created that caused the "bang", producing atoms and all that. Without it, what would "THIS" whole thing be, just blackness? How would it be black, because the universe is thought of in that way? Would it be anything?

All these questions lead us to believe that there MUST be some reason, some answer which we have yet to discover. I do not know how we just decided it was a supernatural being. Why wouldn't it be a group of beings or something we have never seen. When most of us think of god, well at least when I do, we don't picture a large giraffe. Most movies, TV, pictures, images, etc. usually display him as a large human or a human (homosapien) or something like that, just so it would relate to us.

Another thing that comes to mind when questioning god is the "conscience" (Hope I'm spelling that right). When most of us think about wrong and right we listen to our conscience which imo, is everything that we were raised to believe, by whomever. If we were told @ the age of 3 that scratching our arms is a sin, than we would try to follow that, that is if other things didn't contradict that. This is just a theory of mine, but when someone asks themselves.. "Is this right" or "am I doing the right thing" you mistake your conscience for trying to follow god, which is the "right" thing. You listen to your conscience, which is everything you were taught or learned, and then you decide. If you read something or learned something over the bible or about god, you would follow that. If there was REAL scientific proof that the bible was written by humans told to them by god than there would not be so much controversy over the whole topic. If it was a FACT that there was a god, than we would all believe it, but it isn't. It’s our human nature to question things, imo. If it’s not a fact, than how do we believe it’s true. Faith? Which is just really our yearning for that answer, those who believe in god believe in him for some reason. We cannot prove if there is a "wrong" or "right" answer to the fact that there is a god.

All these unanswered questions is what drives us to believe that there must be some higher being or at least something that did "this" all.

To those of you who believe that "all the non believers will go to hell and those who believe, will go to heaven," you were TOLD that, you did not ponder that up some night, you were told that by a source that cannot be proven, and if it could, than we would all believe it, its just your "faith" that drives you to believe this. I think its more so that you WANT there to be a god rather than the fact that you are searching for the answer. If this was not true, than you would be interested in what everyone's views were and why. Of course this could all revert back to good and evil, god and the devil, "god wanted us to have the choice". How can we "choose" if we don't know what's right, and this question reverts us back to our conscience and to our faith.

Sorry I just jumped @ chance to share my views about this.
There are a lot of other things I wanted to say, but I figured I would stop for now seeing how long it is.

05-26-2002, 01:01 AM	#39
iamsparticuz Posts: n/a	Well after reading everyone's replies, I'd figure I would contribute my two cents. I’m actually glad that bootstrap posted this thread. I wanted to read what everyone's beliefs were since this topic is not often discussed. I am catholic. I was raised catholic. I did not attend a catholic school so instead every Sunday I went to Sunday school. I pretty much didn't like going because I found it boring, like most kids do. I think I went to church twice within the last year. My dad is catholic and my mom is Methodist. She still attends the same church as the rest of us because "it’s a lot easier this way". My dad was raised catholic and he told me that his family did not discuss religion a whole lot, so naturally, that’s the way it was with my family. I actually do not know what to believe. I do pray every night because nothing really bad has ever happened to me. Have you ever stopped to ask yourself, "Why are we here", which is basically the same as asking for what the meaning of life is, there is a point in which I ask myself, what “this” is. "This" being everything! How am I thinking? What is LIFE? What is all of THIS? How am I sitting here typing? What is matter? What is everything I know, everything I see? What is all of this which leads me to question this question, and how I am questioning this question? (Hope you understand) and with what, why. Etc. Sorry if you don't catch my drift, but it’s sort of hard to explain. There are no answers to questions like these, and I’m not sure if there ever will be. I am also not sure if there is a god. How did we develop. Something "had" to have been created, materials, matter, and the big bang theory. Within that theory, how were all those chemicals or "reactants" created that caused the "bang", producing atoms and all that. Without it, what would "THIS" whole thing be, just blackness? How would it be black, because the universe is thought of in that way? Would it be anything? All these questions lead us to believe that there MUST be some reason, some answer which we have yet to discover. I do not know how we just decided it was a supernatural being. Why wouldn't it be a group of beings or something we have never seen. When most of us think of god, well at least when I do, we don't picture a large giraffe. Most movies, TV, pictures, images, etc. usually display him as a large human or a human (homosapien) or something like that, just so it would relate to us. Another thing that comes to mind when questioning god is the "conscience" (Hope I'm spelling that right). When most of us think about wrong and right we listen to our conscience which imo, is everything that we were raised to believe, by whomever. If we were told @ the age of 3 that scratching our arms is a sin, than we would try to follow that, that is if other things didn't contradict that. This is just a theory of mine, but when someone asks themselves.. "Is this right" or "am I doing the right thing" you mistake your conscience for trying to follow god, which is the "right" thing. You listen to your conscience, which is everything you were taught or learned, and then you decide. If you read something or learned something over the bible or about god, you would follow that. If there was REAL scientific proof that the bible was written by humans told to them by god than there would not be so much controversy over the whole topic. If it was a FACT that there was a god, than we would all believe it, but it isn't. It’s our human nature to question things, imo. If it’s not a fact, than how do we believe it’s true. Faith? Which is just really our yearning for that answer, those who believe in god believe in him for some reason. We cannot prove if there is a "wrong" or "right" answer to the fact that there is a god. All these unanswered questions is what drives us to believe that there must be some higher being or at least something that did "this" all. To those of you who believe that "all the non believers will go to hell and those who believe, will go to heaven," you were TOLD that, you did not ponder that up some night, you were told that by a source that cannot be proven, and if it could, than we would all believe it, its just your "faith" that drives you to believe this. I think its more so that you WANT there to be a god rather than the fact that you are searching for the answer. If this was not true, than you would be interested in what everyone's views were and why. Of course this could all revert back to good and evil, god and the devil, "god wanted us to have the choice". How can we "choose" if we don't know what's right, and this question reverts us back to our conscience and to our faith. Sorry I just jumped @ chance to share my views about this. There are a lot of other things I wanted to say, but I figured I would stop for now seeing how long it is.