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By my logic? You didn't follow my logic. In fact, you've never been able to follow my logic. You take what I say and run 10 steps ahead of me in the wrong direction. If you had correctly followed my logic, you would have concluded that just because something is inclusive of one thing does not necessarily means it's exclusive of something else. I really don't know if I can dumb it down any more than that.

Did I say I hate republicans? I searched my post for the phrase "I hate repulicans" and damnit if I couldn't find anything of the sort. Maybe that's because I don't hate republicans...well...not anymore than democrats, anyway. But let's face it, republicans are the ones who generally like to play the moral superiority card and the religion card. And, while this bill had some pretty strong support for dipshit democrats, the ones pushing hardest were the republicans. I seriously doubt that Jesus would've tortured anyone who opposed him. In point of fact, most people that claim to do things for biblical or religious reasons do them in stark opposition to what their religion teaches.

And Rob...please don't tell me you're dumb enough to think that our "interrogation techniques" (i.e. torture) are simply limited to sleep depravation and/or annoying music (although if we're playing Michael Jackson, I could get down to some Thriller). The bill opens up possibilities to anything but mutilation, rape, and murder. There's a pretty broad spectrum of discomfort in there like beatings and stress positions. Not to mention the fact that, like I've said before, torture is a notoriously bad way to gather good intelligence.