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Originally Posted by GT40FIED
There's one thing I don't understand...does anyone actually buy the whole "they hate us for our freedom" thing? If you think about it, it's pretty illogical. I mean...by showing they're willing to piss off the world's biggest superpower, they've already shown a proclivity towards violence. If they don't have a problem with violence and are jealous of freedom, they could save themselves a lot of hassle and just violently overthrow their own government and live however they wanted. Seems like it'd be a whole lot easier and it'd save them the problem of being pursued by a massive army. Seems like it's a ridiculously simplistic (and wrong) answer to a complex question that has a dozen better alternative answers.
And Chris...I'm not really saying Bush's line of thought is wrong. I'm saying he should never be allowed to speak in public. Ever. Get someone with diplomatic skills to do the talking as to avoid the confusion and potential pissing off of other countries. I for one don't want to be represented on a world stage by a wanna-be cowboy who got a little carried away after watching The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly.
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Steve I think you are missing a major point in all of this. These extreem groups believe we are infidels and their reiligous views tell them they must remove us. A 'Holy War' on secular societies is a huge and you have seemed to completely over looked that.
They what people like you and I dead. Their leaders preach hate towards the rest of the world. They want us gone. THis is war. Bush didn't need to say it for it to be. It was this way far before 9/11 and far before his speach telling people to pick aside.