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so you all are actually arguing that Honda somehow has a quality output thats even w/ suby? everything i've ever seen on the subject says otherwise but ok. of course talking bad about suby's wasnt really the point of my original comment when i said they're "not quite up to par".
of course then someone had to blurt out that their friends STI doesn't have problems as if I was attacking the very company that gave their family well paying jobs during the Great depression thus preventing a long life of poverty.
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