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*AzCivic* · 02-11-2005, 01:37 PM

you see aliens as a scientific certainty, while there has been NO real proof whether your talking about little microbes or little green men trapped at area51. I feel the same, there's a good chance that something somewhere is out there, however I have no proof, its all just speculation based on probabilty.

the existence of God and the heaven that comes along w/ this belief is also based on probability, which i've talked about before.

so neither one has any hard proof to back up the belief, if there was hard proof then there would be no debate.

back in the time of Jesus the same kind of persecution happened, many called him and his followers crazy, and of course killed and tortured many of them. the difference between Jesus and any other person would be a. Jesus lived w/ out sin b. his teachings weren't weird(like child molestation, slave labor, holding people against their will, etc) and didn't require you to kill yourself. and c. Jesus' coming was foretold these other freaks were not.

I definitly see what your saying about the ornate crap that some people take religion too, especially catholicisim. they're basically putting people up to the status of Jesus, like the stupid Pope. Them and others have corrupted the basic teachings of Jesus and the Bible and they'll be judged, much more harshly than just a person who decided religion isnt for them I might add.

02-11-2005, 01:37 PM	#21
AzCivic Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Az Age: 44 Posts: 3,804	you see aliens as a scientific certainty, while there has been NO real proof whether your talking about little microbes or little green men trapped at area51. I feel the same, there's a good chance that something somewhere is out there, however I have no proof, its all just speculation based on probabilty. the existence of God and the heaven that comes along w/ this belief is also based on probability, which i've talked about before. so neither one has any hard proof to back up the belief, if there was hard proof then there would be no debate. back in the time of Jesus the same kind of persecution happened, many called him and his followers crazy, and of course killed and tortured many of them. the difference between Jesus and any other person would be a. Jesus lived w/ out sin b. his teachings weren't weird(like child molestation, slave labor, holding people against their will, etc) and didn't require you to kill yourself. and c. Jesus' coming was foretold these other freaks were not. I definitly see what your saying about the ornate crap that some people take religion too, especially catholicisim. they're basically putting people up to the status of Jesus, like the stupid Pope. Them and others have corrupted the basic teachings of Jesus and the Bible and they'll be judged, much more harshly than just a person who decided religion isnt for them I might add.