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Originally posted by highlander
Yes, there is truth. I am not debating emotions, I'm saying we are at war over ideas; I mentioned motives and goals, not feelings. Keep your eye on the ball.

First of all, Iraq picked the fight by invading Kuwait over 10 years ago. Then they were given another chance, and they picked a fight again by not agreeing to the terms of their second chance (resolution 1411 or whatever it was). These are the FACTS, deal with them. Also, terrorists picked the fight with us by crashing planes into the WTC. When have we done anything even similar to that? Please tell me. And no, Iraqis could NOT gain their freedom on their own; pitchforks and shovels don't stack up against RPGs and a huge militia.

It was not about Sadaam. Did you read the divide/conquer motives I listed about? THAT is why.

So you want to sit back until someone gets powerful enough to pose a threat? That is stupid. Squash the enemy before they squash you. Duh.

Because they have artillery aimed at Seoul, and if we invade, they basically destroy Seoul. Il will be out soon enough, and that will bring about regime change. Their military is antiquated and could easily be crushed, but WE DONT WANT A FIGHT, so we are being patient. Do you have any idea the miserable state of their economy vs the capitalist economy of South Korea? NK will come around soon enough.

I agree... if you feel so strongly, do something about it. The ACLU drives me insane, as do many other censoring bodies. You will have to admit it is mainly the left extremists censoring everything... well, them and the bible-beating far-right zealots. If you feel strongly about it, write your congressman; they do listen.

For as much as you like to get on me about your perception that I substitute my opinion for fact, you sure do enjoy doing it yourself, don't you Wren? Yeah...Iraq invaded Kuwait...10 YEARS AGO. If you've taken PoliSci 101 yet, you'll also know that it's the responsibilty of a given citizenship to overthrow a government they don't think is working. Somehow I doubt all of the people brandishing AKs and RPGs are members of the military. Look...I'm not saying we should sit around with thumbs firmly up our asses waiting for someone to attack us. I just don't think a "shoot first, ask questions later" foreign policy is going to work. Eventually all of the people we've bullied/bribed into saying they support us will turn against us if we invade any country who dislikes us. If we're going to fight, why not fight the good fight? If Iraq didn't play a part in attacking us, why invade them and not the countries who did play a part? Forget tactics...the first consideration for war should be justification. That's something we just don't have.