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Originally posted by drdingo21
No, the h22 and trans is like 40lbs heavier than the B. And his suspension isn't tuned for the B seriers, its tuned for the d. And between the d and the h there is about 80lbs.
If you don't think 80lbs will make your car handle like ass then throw two 40lbs bags of salt in your trunk and go take some corners.
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negative. your info is wrong. Also I wouldnt say it handles like ass, it definately wont handle as well as a D series but its not horrible.
H series is 175-185 pounds heavier than the D, and about 70-85 pounds heavier than the B16
http://www.hasport.com/Tech/Installs...0Civic%20H.htm
get your facts straight b4 u start calling people out
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Originally posted by SFKing
how bout this. you buy a different car and sell yours. after all the money youll spend buying and putting in the H22 or buying the acura is about the same as a newer car.
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yes but u wont be nearly as fast man. Also it doesnt take that much. It can cost as little as 3500 dollars. Also there is something to be proud of when u build a hybrid.
just my 2 cents though.
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Originally posted by nonovurbizniz
I've talked to people with h22's with stock supsension... again.. it's exagerated..
especially considering 90% of that weight is actually lower than it was before (the bottom of the h22 sits MUCH MUCH lower than the stock engine and ALL the weight is down low in the tranny and rotating mass)... this would give you a lower center of gravity... and in turn better handling..
The only handling problems you'd have from too much weight on the front springs is bounciness because they're over-worked... but if your struts are in good shape they should compensate.
Other than that there are PLENTY of good handling cars with a lot of weight up front and an h22 in a civic would NOT make the distribution much more than stock... DEFINATELY not enough to make it over 70/30...
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my sentiments exactly. Also something to think about is an H22 in a Civic sits very far forward, and has better traction out of the hole. 1.90 60 foots on Falkien Azenis street tires with stock suspension is not unheard of in an H22'd hatch. So with proper spring rates and shocks u can have a corner burner, and good straightline traction (for a honda anyways).
that is just the short block dry weight. I am talking about a complete B series versus a coomplete H series. I have no doubt that it is only 35 pounds heavier with just the short block and the tranny, but u need to take into consideration the head, the intake manifold, and all the other accessories. If u have ever seen the B16 intake manifold and compared it to the H22's, there is a huge difference. The casting is soo much larger. That alone will add a few pouds dont u think. Just think of everything else that will add weight. Think of the big picture my friend.