[AzCivic]

"So what...you've developed a magic header that's capable of shrinking and expanding at variable rpms? Of course no one header is capable of creating ideal conditions all the time because it's made of metal. Metal that does not bow to your will. The closest comprimise would be stepped headers...but I have yet to see those for Hondas (but I don't follow the Honda market so who knows). And you're right on one note...velocity is the key to engine intake and exhaust...but a controlled velocity. Like I said, by your logic slapping a set of 2" primary long tubes on my car should result in insane amounts of low end power. In reality, they'll fail miserably and produce next to no low end power (something I'll bet you're altogether too familiar with). And I could throw on some 4" pipes because my 3" pipes just aren't doing the job...that'll earn me some points. And I never said anything about backpressure at high rpms...at that point it's your enemy...but that is also a product of camshaft design and timing which another discussion altogether. You seems stuck on comparing me to Midas workers...is there a reasoning behind this? If you think it'll piss me off you're sorely mistaken because I know better...you don't seem to. I think your points are valid in a small-picture kind of way...I'm just looking at the big picture where things aren't always perfect and you find the best possible solution to a given problem."



so what, now you agree with me?

and didnt i say you have to make a comprimise?

and whats this "velocity in controlled amounts" junk? you want the most velocity you can get!

i'm not sure what you need on your car, seems like every aftermarket header out there for the 5.0 has 1 5/8" primaries and a four into one design.