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Old 03-16-2004, 02:13 PM   #11
Honda_Tengoku
 
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Nitrous
advantages...
-cheap, best bang for the buck
-good kits like Nitrous Express, Venom and ZEX are already tuned for the applications
-when u are off nitrous your car drives like normal with no more extra maintenance that is required from a turbo car
-no spool up time at all! instant power!

disadvantages....
-dont have the power of nitrous all the time


turbo engine
adavantages....
-power all the time!
-nothing beats the sound of a bad a$$ blow off valve!

disadvantages...
-boosted cars require more maintenance ( plugs, valve lash, ect)
-tuning is a bitch and wil cost u lots of money on a dyno
-way more expensive not to mention u should upgrade the ECU and or atleast a piggy back like the VAFC, and injectors. The money pit never ends.


Ok let me clarify a few points here. First point I said a boosted car "requires more maintenance". Generally plugs, and valve lash needs to be done more often cuz u are on boost all the time. "9seccivc" on HT changes his plugs once a week, and lashes the valves once a week. now on more mildly boosted engines, say like on 10 pounds of boost or less I would say not really any more noticeable maintenance. I would definately talk to Thermaldfid16. He is the man to talk to around here about that. Now some people argue that turbo is more reliable. Well I disagree. Nitrous has a bad "stigma", or bad "vodoo". Most of the bad rumors come from very poor nitrous kits, improper installation, improper timing, and "old" technology (many years ago). Now days the kits are very advanced and very very good. Nitrous express has their tunning down so accurate that their kits are guaranteed to make within 2 percent of the rated horsepower. Also for all of u that doesnt know the "50 shot" means 50 wheel horsepower. Not flywheel HP! As far as reliability issues goes I am going to go out on a limb and say that nitrous is generally more reliable than a turbo engine (for most of us). Now why do I say that? Well most of us dont have an endless supply of money or the access to a dyno and a experienced tuner. If u have that access then I would say the turbo car can be very reliable. So basically people are stuck with an engine that isnt exactly tuned right. Eventually (from my experience) on hard driving bad things tend to happen. Another thing to think about is that the engine is on abuse constantly! Nitrous u are only on it like 10 seconds at a time and maybe every other weekend or so? Not even as close to the amount of abuse a turbo engine running around the same amount of boost to shot ratio. My final factor is turbos tend to create lots of heat. While in town its not that big of a deal. Unfortunately the last person I know that took their turbocharged honda on a road trip melted a ring on his B16A3 which was only on 7 pounds of boost! There is a reason why factory turbo cars run oil coolers, stainless steel valves, ect..... These are just my thoughts and my opinions here. I am not going to say I am a turbo guru or anything like that. I do have some experience with turbo kits, and tuning them. Not to mention many of my friends are big into turbo cars. I am not saying turbo is not reliable. I am just saying it doesnt seem to be reliable for the average tuner like u and me, and my friends. BTW I also have had the ZEX kit. It seems to be a good kit and ran a bottle out on my D16Z hatch. It was easy to install, and easy to use. I only had it for a week. Yes I ran a full bottle out of it! I used a 50 shot constantly on the street. I cant remember how many times I used it. But alot. I eventually gave the kit back to the guy I bought it from (second hand). I decided I didnt want to make the 300 mile round trip just to fill nitrous where I am at. How does the car run after the nitrous abuse? Well it ran absolutely fine. No problems what so ever. When I do move, I most likely will be running nitrous again on my H22'd Civic.
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