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Kool-Aid...your response seems to me to be another sort of cop out. I understand what you're saying, but the logic behind your morals are antiquated and out of date...not the ideals you grew up with. Women in today's society are not taught to sit idlely by while the things they want pass them by. This is a time of empowerment for both women and men so I find it hard to believe that you grew up with such morals presented to you. The times you're talking about are also the times when women were to be seen and not heard...is this an ideal you embrace as well? To me your response is just as much of a defense mechanism as men saying that a woman is intimidating or unapproachable. If you don't hit on a guy there's no chance of rejection. Believe me...I know a thing or two about rejection. Most people will concoct any excuse necessary to avoid the possibility that they will be rejected. If you're used to guys approaching you then it's easier. If he doesn't approach you he's not worth your time, right? In reality the guy who won't approach you is probably more worth your time than the guy who is so self absorbed he thinks he's sooooooo worth your time. Women need to learn to break out of this bullshit role of the passive figure in relationships and become fully actuated members of their own relationships. To say otherwise only lessens they're grip on the social concept of what a relationship really is and lowers it back to the ideals of which you speak...when women were to be approached and not to approach. As for myself, I won't approach women...but at least I'm honest about because I know that I've been shot down so many times it's almost a given that any woman I DO approach will produce the same result. That's honesty...not a cop out.